renaming files problem..

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Vista is not letting me rename a folder, it says one some files inside
are open in a program but I don't have any files open in any program..
XP used to do the same thing; what is solution here, pls..

thanks............
 
Make sure you checked:

(1) Show hidden files and folders
(2) Hide protected OS files should be unchecked (temporarily)

This may still not work weirdly enough.

There is a remote chance that you've deleted files in that folder in the
heat of work but the information about those precious files is still in the
registry.

You will have to find out which ones.
 
This will happen if you have a folder selected above the file or folder you
want to rename. Select the file or folder you want to rename, then rename
it. Right clicking and choosing rename does not select the folder or file.
 
Michael, how in the world could she select the folder she wants to rename
which is already highlighted and perhaps even a convenient textbox provided
over the folder's name to rename it and the parent folder which you called
"the folder above it?"

This is all so bizarre that defies comprehension?
 
maya said:
Vista is not letting me rename a folder, it says one some files inside
are open in a program but I don't have any files open in any program..
XP used to do the same thing; what is solution here, pls..

thanks............
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First thing is try a reboot.

Next, does it tell you what files are in use ? If not, you can try to
move all the files into a temp folder and the one(s) that won't move are
in use. Note the filenames of the 'in use' one(s).

You can d/l Sysinternals Process Explorer from MS and use that to find
what process is using the files. PE does not need to be installed, just
unzipped to a folder. PE is a task manager replacement that is far more
capable than MS task manager.

Start PE, goto 'Find' menu, select 'Find DLL or Handle'. A box will pop
up to enter a search into. Enter the file name that would not move, press
return or click 'Search'. The bottom of the box will fill with any
process(es) that have that file open.

After you find which process is using the file(s), we can look inot it
more.
 
This person went on a tangent.

The OP DOES NOT HAVE A FILE NAME. All she has is a folder name which she is
trying to rename.

When she tries to rename it Vista tells her that there is a lockup on the
folder because it is used by a program. Vista seldom bothers to tell people
who go on a tangent what the file name is.

This is what she's got. No more no less.

It is actually plenty. Yes, one way to test if Vista was serious is to
reboot the system. I kind of suspect she has already done it. Let's assume
she did and the issue remains unresolved. No file name, only folder. What
are you going to do?

You first make sure ALL files are displayed even if those files are secret
system files and I showed how to do it in my previous post.

She can look inside the folder and see if any files appeared. Let's assume
they did. Then she has to assign permissions to herself to rename them.
Strictly speaking she does not need to take cover off all the Vista files
for that. All she needs is to give herself elevated permission. She can
actually do it in Command Prompt "Run as administrator" and try to rename
the folder. I bet it won't work. She will have to then assign herself as a
user with full rights in Windows Explorer: Property>>Security Tab>>Edit>Add
User>>Full Right>>Apply.

She can (I believe) do her rename even if Vista has a file stashed in that
folder which it is using provided she has all elevated privileges.

Task manager does not appear to be any logical choice since the name of the
application (exec file) is unknown. Aside it may be a database file or a log
file. The name of the file in that folder most likely has nothing to do with
the process in the task Manager.

If after she made sure ALL files are displayed by Vista and still there is
no file in there then she has to look into the registry. It is an arduous
process but again the task manager may not be of any help if there is a
lockup on that nonexistent file somewhere up in the registry.
 
Dude....WTF ?! Can you not understand anything ?
This person went on a tangent.
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You don't even know what going out 'on a tangent' really means.
The OP DOES NOT HAVE A FILE NAME. All she has is a folder name which
she is trying to rename.

When she tries to rename it Vista tells her that there is a lockup on
the folder because it is used by a program. Vista seldom bothers to
tell people who go on a tangent what the file name is.
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No. Wrong again. The OP....

'Vista is not letting me rename a folder, it says one some files inside
are open in a program but I don't have any files open in any program..
XP used to do the same thing; what is solution here, pls..'

The OP there says Vista says there are files in use in the folder, DUH!

I'm only going by what I was told in the OP. I'm not making up a bunch of
different scenarios of what they could have possibly meant. I am answering
the question as it is posed. Nothing more, nothing less.

This is what she's got. No more no less.

It is actually plenty. Yes, one way to test if Vista was serious is to
reboot the system. I kind of suspect she has already done it. Let's
assume she did and the issue remains unresolved. No file name, only
folder. What are you going to do?
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I don't know. I'm not going to sweat it until the OP posts back with a yea
or nay.
You first make sure ALL files are displayed even if those files are
secret system files and I showed how to do it in my previous post.
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It wouldn't be a system folder they are trying to rename so, and I
seriously doubt they made any files read only or hidden manually.
She can look inside the folder and see if any files appeared. Let's
assume they did. Then she has to assign permissions to herself to
rename them. Strictly speaking she does not need to take cover off all
the Vista files for that. All she needs is to give herself elevated
permission. She can actually do it in Command Prompt "Run as
administrator" and try to rename the folder. I bet it won't work. She
will have to then assign herself as a user with full rights in Windows
Explorer: Property>>Security Tab>>Edit>Add User>>Full Right>>Apply.

She can (I believe) do her rename even if Vista has a file stashed in
that folder which it is using provided she has all elevated
privileges.
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You are unnecessarily overthinging this.....again.
Task manager does not appear to be any logical choice since the name
of the application (exec file) is unknown. Aside it may be a database
file or a log file. The name of the file in that folder most likely
has nothing to do with the process in the task Manager.
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Another blatant example of your reading comprehension abilities. If you re-
read the post, you will see....well probably not. Let me refresh your tiny
fish-sized memory. I said DON'T use Task Manager, but instead use Process
Explorer, and then went on to explain how you can find the process, if you
know the name of the file, if you know the name of the file, if you know
the name of the file.
If after she made sure ALL files are displayed by Vista and still
there is no file in there then she has to look into the registry. It
is an arduous process but again the task manager may not be of any
help if there is a lockup on that nonexistent file somewhere up in the
registry.
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Well, if it's THAT important to rename the folder, and there are no files
in it and the locked folder can't be resolved and it's not a system folder,
instead of wasting what could be hours worth of researching for a fix and
manual registry searching here's what I would do......

I'd boot from Win98 boot floppy, start the free utility NTFS4DOS, CD to the
parent folder of the offending folder, do an RD and then a MKDIR with the
new name.

That would take 5 minutes, at most, since I already have a Win98 boot disk
with NTFS4DOS on it, and quicker than slaving the drive into another PC.

So now, please stop picking apart my posts if you don't *completely*
understand what is being said.
 
OK, I assumed that she does not see any files in the folder. It actually
not clear if she does see files or not. It may be either way. Even if she
does, it does not change anything at all. Let's say there are 20 files in
there. What does it give you?

Number one it is nice to check if there are hidden files and this may bring
the answer. Then and only then there is a remote chance that you find in TM
one of the processes that will match the file name. Number two even if it
won't give clarity, the Task Manager does not seem to be a good option for
the situation at all. A file used by a program? There might be 200-500 files
in all. They might be scattered over many directories. What are you going to
do then?
 
OK, I assumed that she does not see any files in the folder. It
actually not clear if she does see files or not. It may be either way.
Even if she does, it does not change anything at all. Let's say there
are 20 files in there. What does it give you?

Number one it is nice to check if there are hidden files and this may
bring the answer. Then and only then there is a remote chance that you
find in TM one of the processes that will match the file name. Number
two even if it won't give clarity, the Task Manager does not seem to
be a good option for the situation at all. A file used by a program?
There might be 200-500 files in all. They might be scattered over many
directories. What are you going to do then?
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Hello ?!?!

How dense are you.

Are you human being, or some highly advanced scripted droid on a server
somewhere outside this galaxy communicating with Earth over that 300
gazillion dollar RF Telescope thing you were talking about ?

You're a pretty decent AI program though, but it just seems that a lot must
be lost in the translation from whatever your native alien language is.

(I've got way too much time on my hand's.... I just copied this thread to
file...a few people I know will get a real kick out of this !!!)

I really wish I could just ignore you, but it's really had when you make it
so easy.
 
You are too much in "Command & Conquer: Tiberian Dawn" my dear, aside from
drinking, of course. Yesterday I'd noticed so much incoherence and out of
contect posting that I tried to determine how much this stuff you down in
whisky-equivalents. Quite a bit. A person say "wired," he lectures him on
"wireless."

"DHCP still applies."

No it does not, it is another honest mistake of yours. BTW that "honest
mistake" was not bad. I told you I make mistakes myself which you
immediately tried to exploit for an insult.

DHCP does not apply because it is his router. He does get a connection but
he has to prod the system by highlighting it in the Start>>Network GUI. It
is just slow. There is no way it could be a DHCP issue if it works so well.

What he described is a typical NON PROBLEM of misunderstanding Vista's
behavior. Some people are too impatient. They want to begin working right
away. Will he drive his car off his driveway without warming it up in good
weather?

All that clowning with DHCP was nonsense.

I am sorry for your computers. You must be torturing them quite a bit
checking DHCP and all as they say "NonStop."

As far as your complaint of my being dense, well, it is in your background.
MLK HS "graduates" do not like long words.
 
DanS said:
Hello ?!?!

How dense are you.

Are you human being, or some highly advanced scripted droid on a
server somewhere outside this galaxy communicating with Earth over
that 300 gazillion dollar RF Telescope thing you were talking about ?

You're a pretty decent AI program though, but it just seems that a
lot must be lost in the translation from whatever your native alien
language is.

(I've got way too much time on my hand's.... I just copied this
thread to file...a few people I know will get a real kick out of this
!!!)

I really wish I could just ignore you, but it's really had when you
make it so easy.
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DanS, maybe you are on to something with the AI droid thing. There is
definitely something lost in the translation. The logic AlexB uses is really
baffling and the contradictions to his/her own statements that come in
later statements are incredible. The only other thing I could think of is
some type of autistic disorder or possible a mental illness. The sad thing
is that he/she has some of these poor unsuspecting people jumping through
hoops trying to fix things he/she doesn't have a clue about and probably
never will.
 
DanS, maybe you are on to something with the AI droid thing. There is
definitely something lost in the translation. The logic AlexB uses is
really baffling and the contradictions to his/her own statements that
come in later statements are incredible. The only other thing I could
think of is some type of autistic disorder or possible a mental
illness. The sad thing is that he/she has some of these poor
unsuspecting people jumping through hoops trying to fix things he/she
doesn't have a clue about and probably never will.
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And the sad thing is he doesn't even realize he's a schmuck.
 
AlexB said:
You are too much in "Command & Conquer: Tiberian Dawn" my dear, aside from
drinking, of course. Yesterday I'd noticed so much incoherence and out of
contect posting that I tried to determine how much this stuff you down in
whisky-equivalents. Quite a bit. A person say "wired," he lectures him on
"wireless."
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So what does it say about you when you say "kill them" and later protest
that you meant "killfile them?" You are the master of incoherence and out
of context posting as anyone reading your posts can see. When you sober up,
go read all the threads you have posted in and you will be really
embarrassed. Any normal person would be.
 
You are too much in "Command & Conquer: Tiberian Dawn" my dear, aside
from drinking, of course.
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Sorry, I don't drink.
Yesterday I'd noticed so much incoherence
and out of contect posting that I tried to determine how much this
stuff you down in whisky-equivalents. Quite a bit. A person say
"wired," he lectures him on "wireless."

"DHCP still applies."

No it does not, it is another honest mistake of yours.
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Yes verifying DHCP, if it enabled. does still apply moron. Just because
it's wired doesn't mean it still can't be a problem.
BTW that
"honest mistake" was not bad. I told you I make mistakes myself which
you immediately tried to exploit for an insult.

DHCP does not apply because it is his router. He does get a
connection but he has to prod the system by highlighting it in the
Start>>Network GUI. It is just slow. There is no way it could be a
DHCP issue if it works so well.
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Utter nonsense....again.
What he described is a typical NON PROBLEM of misunderstanding Vista's
behavior. Some people are too impatient. They want to begin working
right away. Will he drive his car off his driveway without warming it
up in good weather?

All that clowning with DHCP was nonsense.

I am sorry for your computers. You must be torturing them quite a bit
checking DHCP and all as they say "NonStop."
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You know little. How about I never have a DHCP problem because my entire
network is set static.
As far as your complaint of my being dense, well, it's true.
Almost nothing can penetrate my thick neandrethal like skull.
Because of it, I have a severe personality disorder. I have kids
but they live in anouther state because their mother left me
when she realized I was nearly insane and a danger to myself and
all other's around me.
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Figures :)
 
"DHCP still applies."

No it does not, it is another honest mistake of yours. BTW that
"honest mistake" was not bad. I told you I make mistakes myself which
you immediately tried to exploit for an insult.
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Well, one simple mistake of mine versus your mind-boggling whacked out
opinions and help attempts isn't too bad.
DHCP does not apply because it is his router. He does get a
connection but he has to prod the system by highlighting it in the
Start>>Network GUI. It is just slow. There is no way it could be a
DHCP issue if it works so well.
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Again you have mis-understood what was said. The OP in that thread says
his network doesn't start for 5 minutes or so and he has to manually
attach NAS. They did *not* say that it works but transfers are very slow.

Well, dipsh*t, when the network is not working after boot up, when on
DHCP, the first thing to check is DHCP. You can go to a cmd prompt and
look at an ipconfig output first, and if it shows as 0.0.0.0 or 169.x.x.x
it's time to look at DHCP.

Basic rules of troubleshooting.....do all the simple things first.
What he described is a typical NON PROBLEM of misunderstanding Vista's
behavior. Some people are too impatient. They want to begin working
right away. Will he drive his car off his driveway without warming it
up in good weather?
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Did you mean bad weather ? And FWIW, automotive experts have concluded
that an extended warm-up period in cold weather is not necessary. It make
no difference mechanically (as far as damage or extra wear to the engine)
if you wait only 1 minute vs. 10 minutes. Of course the heat won't be on
so it will be cold inside for a human, but that doesn;t matter for AI
such as yourself.
As far as your complaint of my being dense, well, it is in your
background. MLK HS "graduates" do not like long words.
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Again, I've never attended any school named after MLK, so that comment
does not apply.

Do you know what I mean about being dense ?....Nothing sinks in....which
is pretty apparent, as after I mentioned NOT using Task Manager, but
Process Explorer instead to find what process may be holding a file lock,
you post back saying that Task Manager won't do that. I then lambasted
you for not comprehending, explained myself fully again including the
instructions on how to use PE to find the file, and in the next reply you
said 'I still don't think Task Manager'.

Now THAT, is dense.
 
DanS said:
Well, one simple mistake of mine versus your mind-boggling whacked out
opinions and help attempts isn't too bad.


Again you have mis-understood what was said. The OP in that thread says
his network doesn't start for 5 minutes or so and he has to manually
attach NAS. They did *not* say that it works but transfers are very slow.

Well, dipsh*t, when the network is not working after boot up, when on
DHCP, the first thing to check is DHCP. You can go to a cmd prompt and
look at an ipconfig output first, and if it shows as 0.0.0.0 or 169.x.x.x
it's time to look at DHCP.

Basic rules of troubleshooting.....do all the simple things first.


Did you mean bad weather ? And FWIW, automotive experts have concluded
that an extended warm-up period in cold weather is not necessary. It make
no difference mechanically (as far as damage or extra wear to the engine)
if you wait only 1 minute vs. 10 minutes. Of course the heat won't be on
so it will be cold inside for a human, but that doesn;t matter for AI
such as yourself.
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Tee Hee! Another case of AlexB saying one thing while meaning
another...shortly after he gives DanS crap for doing it.


Again, I've never attended any school named after MLK, so that comment
does not apply.
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It looks like the MLK remark was an attempt at an racist insult.
 
As far as your complaint of my being dense, well, it is in your
background. MLK HS "graduates" do not like long words.
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KeyBoarder mentioned it before I was able to post again, but your
repetitive comments about MLK HS show that you are indeed a predjudistic
bigot.

You are implying that a school named after MLK would be an all-black
school, and that quoting graduate..."graduates" implies that you think all-
black schools have a much lower standard than mostly caucasian schools.

This pretty much jives with what you had said a few days ago, that you
really enjoys making fun of gays and cracking jokes about them, but only
when they are not in the room.

So, you have predjudistic feelings for blacks, gays, and people that are
successful w/o having bachelor degrees.

What am I missing ? Hispanics ? It must be pretty hard for you living down
there in Texas.....unless you are Hispanic yourself.

Ay essay ?
 
DanS said:
KeyBoarder mentioned it before I was able to post again, but your
repetitive comments about MLK HS show that you are indeed a predjudistic
bigot.

You are implying that a school named after MLK would be an all-black
school, and that quoting graduate..."graduates" implies that you think
all-
black schools have a much lower standard than mostly caucasian schools.

This pretty much jives with what you had said a few days ago, that you
really enjoys making fun of gays and cracking jokes about them, but only
when they are not in the room.

So, you have predjudistic feelings for blacks, gays, and people that are
successful w/o having bachelor degrees.

What am I missing ? Hispanics ? It must be pretty hard for you living down
there in Texas.....unless you are Hispanic yourself.

Ay essay ?
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Have you noticed that as soon as someone gets it nailed, he abandons the
thread and picks up a new one to spread his idiocy?
 
KeyBoarder mentioned it before I was able to post again, but your
Have you noticed that as soon as someone gets it nailed, he abandons
the thread and picks up a new one to spread his idiocy?
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I did not. What I did see is that after about 2 days the thread is
abandoned, no matter what the last word was.

I'll just maybe pick up on a newer thread then when I get home. I'm still @
work now.

Of course, this *is* gettting kind of old. But then again, so is the
Frank/Alias rivalry.
 
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