removing IE

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Linea Recta

Because of the latest security issue I'm getting fed up with Explorer
(version 8, 9).
I'd like to know if there is a safe way to remove it, mainly to prevent
wasting precious drive space.

I never had the time or interest to look into competing apps, but from a
quick glance on line I believe Google Chrome is a good alternative?




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B

Bruce Hagen

Linea Recta said:
Because of the latest security issue I'm getting fed up with Explorer
(version 8, 9).
I'd like to know if there is a safe way to remove it, mainly to prevent
wasting precious drive space.

I never had the time or interest to look into competing apps, but from a
quick glance on line I believe Google Chrome is a good alternative?




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regards,

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\../
\/os




In XP, you can't have IE9. IE8 and IE 7 can be removed, but IE 6 will
remain as it is a part of XP.

How to uninstall IE7
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927177

How do I uninstall or remove Internet Explorer 8?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/957700


Note that any space you gain will not be very much. IMHO, just not using
IE is the easiest option.
 
K

Ken Springer

Because of the latest security issue I'm getting fed up with Explorer
(version 8, 9).
I'd like to know if there is a safe way to remove it, mainly to prevent
wasting precious drive space.

I never had the time or interest to look into competing apps, but from a
quick glance on line I believe Google Chrome is a good alternative?

I haven't trusted Google Anything since their privacy issues and
tracking practices. That doesn't mean Chrome isn't a good browser, just
means I avoid all possible Google interaction. So, I do as little with
Google as I can.

I use Firefox, and if I didn't use it, I'd probably switch back to
Opera. Never like IE at all.


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Ken

Mac OS X 10.6.8
Firefox 14.0.1
Thunderbird 15.0.1
LibreOffice 3.5.6.2
 
G

glee

Linea Recta said:
Because of the latest security issue I'm getting fed up with Explorer
(version 8, 9).
I'd like to know if there is a safe way to remove it, mainly to
prevent wasting precious drive space.

I never had the time or interest to look into competing apps, but from
a quick glance on line I believe Google Chrome is a good alternative?

If you remove IE, you won't be able to use Windows Update, and it can't
be removed without using tweaks that will likely break other things.
There's no reason to remove it, very little drive space will be gained.
If you're that desperate for drive space, you need a bigger drive.

I would not roll back to a version if IE earlier than IE7, even if you
don't use it. Just install an alternate browser and make it the default
browser. I use Opera and Firefox.... I don't like Chrome.
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Because of the latest security issue I'm getting fed up with Explorer


The word "Explorer" by itself normally refers to Windows Explorer, not
Internet Explorer. But from the Subject line, I see that you mean
Internet Explorer.

(version 8, 9).
I'd like to know if there is a safe way to remove it, mainly to prevent
wasting precious drive space.


Two points:

1. It's built into Windows, and you can't remove it.

2. It uses something around 12MB of disk space. At today's prices,
when a 1TB hard drive cost around $85 US, 5MB is something around 15
cents worth. That's a *tiny* amount of disk space. If that amount is
"precious" to you, the only real solution for you is to buy a larger
drive than you have. There are things you can do to save some disk
space, but they will be only temporary solutions.

I never had the time or interest to look into competing apps, but from a
quick glance on line I believe Google Chrome is a good alternative?


There are several alternatives to IE. Chrome is just one of them. And
Chrome is bigger than IE, taking around 26MB.

You can use and try Chrome, or any other browser, with IE still
installed. If you are interested in using a browser other than IE, you
should download, install, and try several, not just Chrome, and choose
the one *you* like best. I recommend trying at least these three:
Chrome, Firefox (many people's favorite), and Maxthon (my personal
favorite). And give each of them sufficient time to learn it and
explore its features--not just a few minutes.


Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

The word "Explorer" by itself normally refers to Windows Explorer, not
Internet Explorer. But from the Subject line, I see that you mean
Internet Explorer.




Two points:

1. It's built into Windows, and you can't remove it.

2. It uses something around 12MB of disk space. At today's prices,
when a 1TB hard drive cost around $85 US, 5MB is something
around 15 cents worth


Sorry, typo. That should be "12MB is something around ..."

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP
 
M

MowGreen

Linea said:
Because of the latest security issue I'm getting fed up with Explorer
(version 8, 9).
I'd like to know if there is a safe way to remove it, mainly to prevent
wasting precious drive space.

I never had the time or interest to look into competing apps, but from a
quick glance on line I believe Google Chrome is a good alternative?



MS just published a Fixit for the issue

Microsoft Security Advisory: Vulnerability in Internet Explorer could
allow remote code execution
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2757760

and will push an 'out-of-cycle' update out on Friday -

Internet Explorer Fix it available now; Security Update scheduled for Friday
http://blogs.technet.com/b/msrc/arc...now-security-update-scheduled-for-friday.aspx


" This will not only reinforce the issue that the Fix It addressed, but
cover other issues as well. "



MowGreen
================
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
================
 
M

micky

In message <[email protected]>, glee <[email protected]>
writes:
[]
If you remove IE, you won't be able to use Windows Update, and it can't

Is that completely true? I thought the updates could still be
downloaded, just it was less automated.

Assuming you're right, what happens when automated updates aren't
enough? You want something right now, for example

There is a funeral home not too far from here that allows one to view
videos of the funeral, so you can hear the eulogies, if you live out
of town or just can't go. When you try to use it in Firefox, it says
only IE will work. You don't even have the opportunity for a
mediocre FF experience. You get nothing but the message.
(I have some ancient version of IE, but deliberately haven't taught my
firewall about it - it isn't blocked, it just brings up a lot of "do you
want to let" every time I use IE,

That sounds okay.
which isn't often. I too use Firefox.)

Me too.
 
K

Ken Springer

It's built into Windows, and you can't remove it.


You know, I've always wondered about this, especially since MS isn't
allowed to bundle it in some European countries. And, you can go to
Digital River's website, and download versions of Windows 7 that does
not include IE if I remember correctly.

--
Ken

Mac OS X 10.6.8
Firefox 14.0.1
Thunderbird 15.0.1
LibreOffice 3.5.6.2
 
P

Paul

micky said:
In message <[email protected]>, glee <[email protected]>
writes:
[]
If you remove IE, you won't be able to use Windows Update, and it can't
Is that completely true? I thought the updates could still be
downloaded, just it was less automated.

Assuming you're right, what happens when automated updates aren't
enough? You want something right now, for example

There is a funeral home not too far from here that allows one to view
videos of the funeral, so you can hear the eulogies, if you live out
of town or just can't go. When you try to use it in Firefox, it says
only IE will work. You don't even have the opportunity for a
mediocre FF experience. You get nothing but the message.
(I have some ancient version of IE, but deliberately haven't taught my
firewall about it - it isn't blocked, it just brings up a lot of "do you
want to let" every time I use IE,

That sounds okay.
which isn't often. I too use Firefox.)

Me too.

Some browsers allow the "user agent" declaration to be changed.

When you connect your browser to a web site, it reports "I'm Firefox",
and the website responds by giving Firefox-specific HTML code. That
would be code, that looks good in Firefox. Code to make Internet
Explorer work, might look slightly different. Web designers have
to take all the various platforms into account, to make good
looking web pages, everywhere.

There might be something specific being used in IE. IE has
ActiveX plugins (which a site might offer when a browser
connects to it). ActiveX won't work in Firefox - a different
flavor of plugin is needed. The funeral home is just being
lazy by supporting only one browser.

If you want to "deal with the funeral home", try changing the
declared user agent, or use a browser where the user agent can be
set.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_agent

"For example, Safari on the iPad has used the following:

Mozilla/5.0 (iPad; U; CPU OS 3_2_1 like Mac OS X; en-us)
AppleWebKit/531.21.10 (KHTML, like Gecko) Mobile/7B405"

So the string of nonsense, isn't exactly a short one.
(See the section on "User agent spoofing", which is thin on details)

Using a packet sniffer, this is what my browser reports for a user agent.

"Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727)"

Revealing a little more info, than I think it should.

HTH,
Paul
 
G

glee

J. P. Gilliver (John) said:
In message <[email protected]>, glee
If you remove IE, you won't be able to use Windows Update, and it
can't

Is that completely true? I thought the updates could still be
downloaded, just it was less automated.
[]
I would not roll back to a version if IE earlier than IE7, even if you
don't use it. Just install an alternate browser and make it the
default browser. I use Opera and Firefox.... I don't like Chrome.

(I have some ancient version of IE, but deliberately haven't taught my
firewall about it - it isn't blocked, it just brings up a lot of "do
you want to let" every time I use IE, which isn't often. I too use
Firefox.)

I don't know if Automatic Updates relies on any aspect of IE... probably
not. I referred to Windows Update, which is the update web site that
you go to via IE, which requires IE.
 
C

Char Jackson

Using a packet sniffer, this is what my browser reports for a user agent.

"Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727)"

Revealing a little more info, than I think it should.

Rather than firing up a sniffer, it's usually easier to just use a web
site that's set up to show you your headers, like one of these, for
example (randomly picked from a Google search):

<http://www.procato.com/my+headers/>
<http://pgl.yoyo.org/http/browser-headers.php>
 
L

Linea Recta

MowGreen said:
MS just published a Fixit for the issue

Microsoft Security Advisory: Vulnerability in Internet Explorer could
allow remote code execution
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2757760

and will push an 'out-of-cycle' update out on Friday -

Internet Explorer Fix it available now; Security Update scheduled for
Friday
http://blogs.technet.com/b/msrc/arc...now-security-update-scheduled-for-friday.aspx


" This will not only reinforce the issue that the Fix It addressed, but
cover other issues as well. "


OK that's good news!
Yesterday I heard on the news that fixing this issue by MS could take up to
3 weeks. I can't stop banking for 3 weeks long, so I had decided to install
Google Chrome on my WinXP computer. (Only after making a complete image of
the system drive.)
I only had a quick glance at Chrome but I was impressed by its speed on my
old computer...
I can wait until friday and I'll let you know my definite solution. I've
also got to solve some other (OT) issues which came up all at the same time.
A little frustrating initially thinking you were going to do a little work
of your own...

Thanks for all other repliers too.


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regards,

|\ /|
| \/ |@rk
\../
\/os
 
H

Hot-Text

Linea Recta said:
Because of the latest security issue I'm getting fed up with Explorer
(version 8, 9).
I'd like to know if there is a safe way to remove it, mainly to prevent
wasting precious drive space.

I never had the time or interest to look into competing apps, but from a
quick glance on line I believe Google Chrome is a good alternative?

Look you do not have to use IE as a Master (Default) Browser,
I use Opera as my, and you can go with Google Chrome yours..

But always remember,
that there is Software that needs IE7,
and up to run on your System....

like::
Windows Update,
MSN,
MS-Office,
Windows Live Mail,
Windows Media Player,
and Plus More.......
 

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