Remote control

[Alonso]

how to remotely control application on Windows XP Home from Windows 7
computer? What application should be installed, or windows already have this
option? Application that need be managed run on Win XP home on Admin
account.

 

[VanguardLH]

how to remotely control application on Windows XP Home from Windows 7
computer? What application should be installed, or windows already have this
option? Application that need be managed run on Win XP home on Admin
account.

Windows 7 doesn't include Remote Desktop? It's there in Windows XP.
You'll need to punch a hole in the firewall on Windows XP and the router
to allow unsolicited inbound connects on the default RDP port (3389
default), and in the router you'll need to port forward from there to
the Windows XP host (so the outside connection gets redirected to the
proper host that's listening for the RDP connection). You cannot have a
blank password on the Windows XP host since you'll be required to login.

 

[Alonso]

Windows 7 doesn't include Remote Desktop? It's there in Windows XP.
You'll need to punch a hole in the firewall on Windows XP and the router
to allow unsolicited inbound connects on the default RDP port (3389
default), and in the router you'll need to port forward from there to
the Windows XP host (so the outside connection gets redirected to the
proper host that's listening for the RDP connection). You cannot have a
blank password on the Windows XP host since you'll be required to login.

 

[(PeteCresswell)]

Per Alonso:

how to remotely control application on Windows XP Home from Windows 7
computer? What application should be installed, or windows already have this
option? Application that need be managed run on Win XP home on Admin
account.

The native apps are VPN (the tunnel) and Remote Desktop (the UI).

But they take time/effort to use.

I've gone over to using the freebie version of TeamViewer 6. It
has tb installed on both PCs, but once you do that, connections
are, to all intents and purposes, instantaneous.'

I'd never go back to VPN/RemoteDesktop.

Security-wise, TeamViewer claims it's approved for use in the
German banking industry. I can't validate that claim, but it
sure sounds good....

 

[Alonso]

Per Alonso:

The native apps are VPN (the tunnel) and Remote Desktop (the UI).

But they take time/effort to use.

I've gone over to using the freebie version of TeamViewer 6. It
has tb installed on both PCs, but once you do that, connections
are, to all intents and purposes, instantaneous.'

I'd never go back to VPN/RemoteDesktop.

Security-wise, TeamViewer claims it's approved for use in the
German banking industry. I can't validate that claim, but it
sure sounds good....

 

[(PeteCresswell)]

Per Alonso:

Also, I need one side control, from Windows 7 to Windows XP. The reversal
direction control is not required. Both PC are behind thr routers, does
TeamViewer 6c onfigures this automatically, or port forwarding needed?

No router config needed - at least nothing overt by me - and
neither of my router's port forwarding tables show any evidence
of the app having done something on it's own.

In fact, I've had two total computer illiterates install it on
their PCs with zero intervention from Yours Truly.

For me and the dozen-or-so PCs I support, it has been strictly
plug-and-play in every sense of the word.

It also seems unfazed by the corporate firewalls around two of my
PCs at customer sites.

http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/index.aspx, then click
on "Download v6.0.1117 under "All-In-One: TeamViewer full
version".

I've fooled around with "For the instant customer: "TeamViewer
QuickSupport". It works too, and probably has some advantage
for some situations.... but the regular full version is so
easy/quick/seamless that I never followed up on the QuickSupport
version.

 

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

Since you are wanting to control Windows XP Home, Remote Desktop is
not an option. For whatever reason, Microsoft decided not to support
Remote Desktop Host on the Home versions. You can Remote Desktop FROM
Home editions, but not TO Home editions.

I'd look at one of the VNC variants, probably UltraVNC
(http://www.uvnc.com/). Seems like the best option since Windows 7 is
in the mix.

 

[(PeteCresswell)]

Per (PeteCresswell):

For me and the dozen-or-so PCs I support

All family and friends ..... no commercial use.

 

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

VNC (any variant) is still going to require punching holes (for
inbound
unsolicited connections) and port forwarding in your router. Some

True - I'm so used to doing that I hadn't considered it a negative,
but I can see that in this case it probably is.

other alternatives that are easier to setup are LogMeIn, mikogo, or
TeamViewer. The free accounts at LogMeIn and TeamViewer are for
personal use only. mikigo can be used for personal or business use.
You configure it to run as a server (background process) on your
remote
host. You don't need to punch holes in your firewalls as it
establishes outbound HTTP connects (like your web browser does) to
find
out if there's a pending request to establish an inboud connect for
a
remote session. Because the polls to check for a request to connect
are outbound, your firewall will permit them without any additional
rules. If you can use a web browser through the firewall(s), you
can
use these remote utilities.

I've not used mikogo or TeamViewer (though have it on my list to try
TeamViewer based on the recommendations in this and other groups), but
I have used LogMeIn and found it to be quite useable for remote
control. However, the free version of LogMeIn doesn't allow file
transfers so that is a bit of a limitation depending on what you
intend to use it for.

--
Zaphod

Arthur Dent, speaking to Trillian about Zaphod:
"So, two heads is what does it for a girl?"
"...Anything else he's got two of?"

 

[Patok]

I've not used mikogo or TeamViewer (though have it on my list to try
TeamViewer based on the recommendations in this and other groups), but
I have used LogMeIn and found it to be quite useable for remote
control. However, the free version of LogMeIn doesn't allow file
transfers so that is a bit of a limitation depending on what you
intend to use it for.

Huh? Free Hamachi *does* allow file transfers. From/to the shared remote folders
only, of course.

 

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

Huh? Free Hamachi *does* allow file transfers. From/to the shared
remote folders only, of course.

I/we are talking about LogMeIn Free, not Hamachi (which is a very
different product).

 

[Patok]

I/we are talking about LogMeIn Free, not Hamachi (which is a very
different product).

Hah! Indeed. Thanks for the correction. I had not realized that there's a LogMeIn
LogMeIn.

 

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

Hah! Indeed. Thanks for the correction. I had not realized that
there's a LogMeIn LogMeIn.

No worries - I had not realized that there's a LogMeIn Hamachi until
you posted, so we are even ;-)

--
Zaphod

Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster: A cocktail based on Janx Spirit.
The effect of one is like having your brain smashed out
by a slice of lemon wrapped round a large gold brick.

 

[VanguardLH]

Huh? Free Hamachi *does* allow file transfers. From/to the shared remote folders
only, of course.

A VPN solution isn't quite the same as a remote access solution.

https://secure.logmein.com/products/hamachi/features.aspx

LogMeIn Hamachi is a hosted VPN (virtual private network) service. It
lets you create a private network between hosts scattered across the
Internet. So, yes, you get access to other hosts in your VPN but the
product targets a different solution. Hitachi isn't giving you file
transfer. That's already available within the OS running on each host.
Hamachi gives you the VPN to create a networked group of hosts.

The free version of Hamachi, like for LogMeIn, is free for personal-use
only and is limited to networking together a maximum of 16 hosts over
the VPN. I'm sure the OP was looking on how to remotely control another
host, not on how to establish a persistent VPN network of multiple
hosts. Besides, if the OP wants to get at the other intranet hosts at
the remote end then he can do that as he is manipulating the remote
host.

There are many users of LogMeIn that violate its license. You find
shops or contractors using the free version to support their customers
and that's not allowed. You find employees of a small company (that
don't setup their own VPN) using it at home to connect to their
workstations (which could also possibly violate company security rules
regarding outside connections from unknown hosts into the corporate
network). Mikigo is for any use, personal or business, so you don't
have to concern yourself if your use is bordering on or exceeding the
threshold of what constitutes personal use. If your intention and
actual use is personal-use only then any of them will do.

 

[VanguardLH]

Hitachi isn't giving you file transfer. That's already available
within the OS running on each host.

Well, duh, that was supposed to say "Himachi isn't ...".