Reminder to hang up

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Richard in AZ

I think this is a Windows XP issue and not an IE or OE, but maybe both.

I have a senior friend with a fairly new Dell Laptop. All updates installed.
Antivirus, Antispyware software, and Windows Defender report no problems.
Spybot and SuperAntiSpyware reports no problem.
He uses IE6 and OE6 with a dialup connection.

If he starts IE first, and then the dialer comes up and connects.
He can then go to OE and read mail.
When he closes IE and OE, the phone line connected warning works.

If he starts OE first, and then the same dialer comes up and connects.
Now it does not matter if he goes to IE or not,
when he closes, the phone line connected warning does not appear.

I have gone through the connection setting several times.
including making a new dialer connection with his ISP.
I have also checked the registry and all the Dwords appear there and with correct settings.
(I have the same ISP and use the dialer on shop computer and the registry key matches)

He only has one phone line and family peace would be helped if he had that disconnect reminder.
 
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thiago

Richard in AZ said:
I think this is a Windows XP issue and not an IE or OE, but maybe both.

I have a senior friend with a fairly new Dell Laptop. All updates
installed.
Antivirus, Antispyware software, and Windows Defender report no problems.
Spybot and SuperAntiSpyware reports no problem.
He uses IE6 and OE6 with a dialup connection.

If he starts IE first, and then the dialer comes up and connects.
He can then go to OE and read mail.
When he closes IE and OE, the phone line connected warning works.

If he starts OE first, and then the same dialer comes up and connects.
Now it does not matter if he goes to IE or not,
when he closes, the phone line connected warning does not appear.

I have gone through the connection setting several times.
including making a new dialer connection with his ISP.
I have also checked the registry and all the Dwords appear there and with
correct settings.
(I have the same ISP and use the dialer on shop computer and the registry
key matches)

He only has one phone line and family peace would be helped if he had that
disconnect reminder.
 
R

Ricky

I'm not sure if this is what you want but in tools..options..connection tab
there is a check box for 'hang up after send and recieve'..maybe that will
work.
 
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Richard in AZ

Thanks, but he want to stay connected while he does his banking after checking his mail.
Right now I have him start IE and then use the tool bar link for mail.
But I still hear from his wife about him leaving the phone connected after he leaves.
Of course he did close OE and IE.
 
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Ron Sommer

He needs to look in Task Manager to see if msimn is still running.
Does he have the connection icon (two monitors) in the icon bar?
 
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Robert Aldwinckle

Richard in AZ said:
I think this is a Windows XP issue and not an IE or OE, but maybe both.

I have a senior friend with a fairly new Dell Laptop. All updates installed.
Antivirus, Antispyware software, and Windows Defender report no problems.
Spybot and SuperAntiSpyware reports no problem.
He uses IE6 and OE6 with a dialup connection.

If he starts IE first, and then the dialer comes up and connects.
He can then go to OE and read mail.
When he closes IE and OE, the phone line connected warning works.

If he starts OE first, and then the same dialer comes up and connects.
Now it does not matter if he goes to IE or not,
when he closes, the phone line connected warning does not appear.

I have gone through the connection setting several times.
including making a new dialer connection with his ISP.
I have also checked the registry and all the Dwords appear there and with correct settings.
(I have the same ISP and use the dialer on shop computer and the registry key matches)

He only has one phone line and family peace would be helped if he had that disconnect reminder.


ExitDisconnect doesn't always work. E.g one example I had was
(apparently) having the Alexa Explorer bar installed (the real one not
just the Related links thing). As soon as I uninstalled Alexa ExitDisconnect
started working again. But by the time I realized that was the cause
I had become so completely used to using the disconnect prompt that OE's
Work Offline command generates that I never actually needed the
ExitDisconnect again. That allowed me to keep windows open and still
hangup conveniently.

The automatic disconnect due to idle timeout feature always worked for me.
The only thing wrong with that is that the UI of its prompt is unfortunately
keyboard aware and its default is Disconnect. Hence, you can accidently
disconnect while typing a D or a Space or when pressing Enter.
Worse, that can happen even though you haven't seen the prompt!
Otherwise the combination of both the OE Work Offline hangup prompt
and a reasonable idle timeout setting is what I would recommend instead of
worrying about the ExitDisconnect feature not working.

Getting DSL is the ultimate solution to making the telephone line available
but other options may be available from the phone company. E.g. some
services exploit call waiting, some even exploit call forwarding, and if your
phone company is your ISP there is even software which can effect a similar
service without resorting to either of those other subscriber options.


HTH

Robert Aldwinckle
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Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM

Richard in AZ said:
I think this is a Windows XP issue and not an IE or OE, but maybe both.

I have a senior friend with a fairly new Dell Laptop. All updates
installed.
Antivirus, Antispyware software, and Windows Defender report no problems.
Spybot and SuperAntiSpyware reports no problem.
He uses IE6 and OE6 with a dialup connection.

If he starts IE first, and then the dialer comes up and connects.
He can then go to OE and read mail.
When he closes IE and OE, the phone line connected warning works.

If he starts OE first, and then the same dialer comes up and connects.
Now it does not matter if he goes to IE or not,
when he closes, the phone line connected warning does not appear.

I have gone through the connection setting several times.
including making a new dialer connection with his ISP.
I have also checked the registry and all the Dwords appear there and with
correct settings.
(I have the same ISP and use the dialer on shop computer and the registry
key matches)

He only has one phone line and family peace would be helped if he had that
disconnect reminder.

In OE click Tools | Options | Connection | Change
Highlight the dialup connection he uses and click Settings.
Click Advanced.
Check the box to Disconnect when a connection may no longer be needed.

Note: Windows will not give the disconnect message if it thinks any program
is using the Internet.
 
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Richard in AZ

Yes, the icons are there. That is how he does the disconnect (right-mouse click and choose
disconnect)
 
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Richard in AZ

Robert Aldwinckle said:
ExitDisconnect doesn't always work. E.g one example I had was
(apparently) having the Alexa Explorer bar installed (the real one not
just the Related links thing). As soon as I uninstalled Alexa ExitDisconnect
started working again. But by the time I realized that was the cause
I had become so completely used to using the disconnect prompt that OE's
Work Offline command generates that I never actually needed the
ExitDisconnect again. That allowed me to keep windows open and still
hangup conveniently.

The automatic disconnect due to idle timeout feature always worked for me.
The only thing wrong with that is that the UI of its prompt is unfortunately
keyboard aware and its default is Disconnect. Hence, you can accidently
disconnect while typing a D or a Space or when pressing Enter.
Worse, that can happen even though you haven't seen the prompt!
Otherwise the combination of both the OE Work Offline hangup prompt
and a reasonable idle timeout setting is what I would recommend instead of
worrying about the ExitDisconnect feature not working.

Getting DSL is the ultimate solution to making the telephone line available
but other options may be available from the phone company. E.g. some
services exploit call waiting, some even exploit call forwarding, and if your
phone company is your ISP there is even software which can effect a similar
service without resorting to either of those other subscriber options.


HTH

Robert Aldwinckle
DSL is not available at his home (retirement village of factory homes)
They also do not permit wireless ISPs to mount the antenna on the homes.
Money is a problem for a second line.
 
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Richard in AZ

Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE said:
In OE click Tools | Options | Connection | Change
Highlight the dialup connection he uses and click Settings.
Click Advanced.
Check the box to Disconnect when a connection may no longer be needed.

Note: Windows will not give the disconnect message if it thinks any program is using the
Internet.
Thanks Frank, but I have done that many times. It just does not work if dials using OE first.
 
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Poprivet

Put a POST-IT on the side of the screen. Get used to shutting down the
computer when leaving it. Set the disconnect if no activity time. Many,
many ways to handle it; just look around and try Help.
 
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Elmo

Richard said:
Thanks Frank, but I have done that many times. It just does not work if dials using OE first.

Perhaps if you purchase, or find a free dialer that works. Here are
some links:

Google search
http://www.google.com/search?tab=gw&q=xp dialer disconnect

Same search with word "free" added
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=xp+dialer+disconnect+free&btnG=Search

The first two listed here
http://www.download.com/3120-20_4-0.html?tg=dl-20&qt=dialers xp&tag=srch

Ever forgot to disconnect from the internet with your modem and running
up your phone bill?
http://disconnect.safe-install.com/
 

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