Reinstalling networking

[Guest]

I have a set up of a desktop PC with XP Home, a laptop with XP Home and
another desktop with Linux installed. These three machines are connected
through a router. I have just had problems with my XP desktop and had to
reinstall everything.

Prior to the reinstall I had networking up and running on the three machines
now it is not - I guess that I have missed something but I cannot work out
what it is!

The machines are all pinging one another, have an internet connection
through the router so all boards, cables etc are ok.

The problem is that I cannot see any of the other machines when I try to
access them via Microsoft Windows Network > Mshome (the workgroup). I am
getting the error "Mshome is not accessible. You might not have permission to
use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find
out if you have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is
currently not available"

Does anyone have any clues as to what I may have missed?

Many thanks

 

[Chuck]

I have a set up of a desktop PC with XP Home, a laptop with XP Home and
another desktop with Linux installed. These three machines are connected
through a router. I have just had problems with my XP desktop and had to
reinstall everything.

Prior to the reinstall I had networking up and running on the three machines
now it is not - I guess that I have missed something but I cannot work out
what it is!

The machines are all pinging one another, have an internet connection
through the router so all boards, cables etc are ok.

The problem is that I cannot see any of the other machines when I try to
access them via Microsoft Windows Network > Mshome (the workgroup). I am
getting the error "Mshome is not accessible. You might not have permission to
use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find
out if you have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is
currently not available"

Does anyone have any clues as to what I may have missed?

Many thanks

David,

XP Home uses the Guest account for file sharing. Is Guest activated on the
computer?

When you re installed XP, might you have installed with SP2?

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.

 

[Guest]

-----Original Message-----


David,

XP Home uses the Guest account for file sharing. Is Guest activated on the
computer?

When you re installed XP, might you have installed with SP2?

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
.

Oh no, don't tell me that SP2 breaks yet another thing.
Does network file sharing with ME and 98 have problems
with an XP host on
SP2? I had it working fine till I went to SP2 but never
suspected SP2 as the problem as I had a lot of other
things going on.

 

[Chuck]

Oh no, don't tell me that SP2 breaks yet another thing.
Does network file sharing with ME and 98 have problems
with an XP host on
SP2? I had it working fine till I went to SP2 but never
suspected SP2 as the problem as I had a lot of other
things going on.

Windows Firewall (the SP2 version of Internet Connection Firewall) has settings
that can cause problems with file sharing.

If your physical and network connectivity is good (ping works), and if
permissioning is set properly (Guest account enabled), checking WF settings is a
good thing to try. Particularly if SP2 was recently applied.

SP2, regardless of the many bitchings seen in these forums, was a pretty stable
release. But new features like WF can cause problems if settings are
inappropriate.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

I have a set up of a desktop PC with XP Home, a laptop with XP Home and
another desktop with Linux installed. These three machines are connected
through a router. I have just had problems with my XP desktop and had to
reinstall everything.

Prior to the reinstall I had networking up and running on the three machines
now it is not - I guess that I have missed something but I cannot work out
what it is!

The machines are all pinging one another, have an internet connection
through the router so all boards, cables etc are ok.

The problem is that I cannot see any of the other machines when I try to
access them via Microsoft Windows Network > Mshome (the workgroup). I am
getting the error "Mshome is not accessible. You might not have permission to
use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find
out if you have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is
currently not available"

Does anyone have any clues as to what I may have missed?

Many thanks

Run the Network Setup Wizard on the desktop, and tell it that the
computer connects to the Internet through a residential gateway
(router).

If you've installed a firewall program (ZoneAlarm, Norton Internet
Security, etc) on the desktop, un-install that program while
troubleshooting the network. Your router acts as a firewall,
protecting the computer from access by Internet hackers.

Those simple steps are usually all that's needed. If they don't solve
the problem, try these:

A. Make sure that NetBIOS Over TCP/IP is enabled:

a. Open the Network Connections folder.
b. Right click the local area network connection.
c. Click Properties.
d. Double click Internet Protocol (TCP/IP).
e. Click Advanced.
f. Click WINS.
g. Click the Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP button.

2. Run "ipconfig /all" and look at the "Node Type" at the beginning of
the output. If it says "Peer-to-Peer" (which should actually be
"Point-to-Point") that's the problem. It means that the computer only
uses a WINS server, which isn't available on a peer-to-peer network,
for NetBIOS name resolution.

If that's the case, run the registry editor, open this key:

HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parameters

and delete these values if they're present:

NodeType
DhcpNodeType

Reboot, then try network access again.

If that doesn't fix it, open that registry key again, create a DWORD
value called "NodeType", and set it to 1 for "Broadcast" or 4 for
"Mixed".

For details, see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:

Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;160177

TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314053
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

David,

XP Home uses the Guest account for file sharing. Is Guest activated on the
computer?

When you re installed XP, might you have installed with SP2?

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.

Hi, Chuck. In my experience, enabling or disabling the Guest account
has no effect on whether XP Home can access other computers on the
network.

There are two types of settings for the Guest account:

1. Enabling or disabling the Guest account in Control Panel | User
Accounts has nothing to do with networking. It determines whether
someone can log in as Guest at the local computer's keyboard.

2. These commands control access to XP Home from other computers on
the network:

net user guest /active:yes ;enables access from other computers
net user guest /active:no ;disables access from other computers

I just disabled the Guest account on an XP Home computer using both #1
and #2, and it can still access other computers on the network. When
other computers try to access the XP Home computer on the network,
they get a prompt for the Guest account password. Since the Guest
account is disabled for network access, there's no correct reply to
the prompt.

Have you seen different behavior? If so, please give details.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

 

[Guest]

Run the Network Setup Wizard on the desktop, and tell it that the
computer connects to the Internet through a residential gateway
(router).

If you've installed a firewall program (ZoneAlarm, Norton Internet
Security, etc) on the desktop, un-install that program while
troubleshooting the network. Your router acts as a firewall,
protecting the computer from access by Internet hackers.

Those simple steps are usually all that's needed. If they don't solve
the problem, try these:

A. Make sure that NetBIOS Over TCP/IP is enabled:

a. Open the Network Connections folder.
b. Right click the local area network connection.
c. Click Properties.
d. Double click Internet Protocol (TCP/IP).
e. Click Advanced.
f. Click WINS.
g. Click the Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP button.

2. Run "ipconfig /all" and look at the "Node Type" at the beginning of
the output. If it says "Peer-to-Peer" (which should actually be
"Point-to-Point") that's the problem. It means that the computer only
uses a WINS server, which isn't available on a peer-to-peer network,
for NetBIOS name resolution.

If that's the case, run the registry editor, open this key:

HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parameters

and delete these values if they're present:

NodeType
DhcpNodeType

Reboot, then try network access again.

If that doesn't fix it, open that registry key again, create a DWORD
value called "NodeType", and set it to 1 for "Broadcast" or 4 for
"Mixed".

For details, see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:

Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;160177

TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314053
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

OK - thanks everyone but still cannot get it to work!

In answer to the points raised:

The Guest account is active
I have not installed SP2
I do not have any software firewall - only the one in the router
The computer was already connecting through a residential gateway
NetBIOS Over TCP/IP was enabled
There was no node type in the registry - I have tried both 1 and 4 but to no
avail

Any more suggestions

As I said at the start it was all working fine until I had to reinstall XP
and as far as I can see I have done nothing different!

 

[Guest]

Sorry folks, my fault (red face) - I had not rebooted the Linux machine. Once
I had done that all is fine.

The moral here must be if you cannot see other machines go back to basics -
turn everything off and then start adding them one by one to where the
problem is!!

Once again sorry for wasting your time

David