registry cleaners that defragment the registry?

C

CalamityKen

R

REM

The only reg cleaners that defrag the registry (win2000) that I
know of, are trialware and not true freeware. They expire after
so many days and then ya gotta buy 'em.
Have I overlooked any true freeware cleaners that defragment the
registry?

I've heard of optimizing the registry, but not defragging it. It is a
file, so defrag should place it into contiguous space on the drive.

I use RegSeeker to clean the registry. It is pretty aggressive, but I
have never had a problem with it. I read of someone with Norton stuff
installed who had bad problems with this cleaner though. I have used
it with 98SE, ME, and now with XP Pro.

I just ran it and cleaned 292 useless entries with no problem.

http://www.hoverdesk.net/freeware.htm
 
S

Steve King

Try RegCompact. So far, it's worked well when I've tried it. I can't
remember the official web site, but Google gives several sources to
download it. It's "donationware" or some such thing, so payment appears
to be voluntary.

Steve . . .
 
R

Rick Blackthorn

The only reg cleaners that defrag the registry (win2000) that I
know of, are trialware and not true freeware. They expire after
so many days and then ya gotta buy 'em.

Have I overlooked any true freeware cleaners that defragment the
registry?
 
M

MLC

venerdì 09/lug/2004 _Rick Blackthorn_ in
I believe optimizing is what the registry software people refer
to when they say defragmenting the registry.

Mmm, not properly... :)

When you remove a registry entry (for example with RegSeeker), actually that
entry remains in place (it's only marked as blank) and there is a gap into
the registry. Therefore the registry becomes more fragmented over time.

The same happens with the databases: if you delete a record, you only remove
its field entries and the access for that record. You need to compact the DB
to remove the holes and to re-index it.
 
R

Rick Blackthorn

REM said:
I've heard of optimizing the registry, but not defragging it. It is a
file, so defrag should place it into contiguous space on the drive.

I believe optimizing is what the registry software people refer
to when they say defragmenting the registry.
I use RegSeeker to clean the registry. It is pretty aggressive, but I
have never had a problem with it. I read of someone with Norton stuff
installed who had bad problems with this cleaner though. I have used
it with 98SE, ME, and now with XP Pro.

I use regseeker too, although I've got to watch it pretty
closely. For some reason my perl file association goes away
when I follow its recommendations. This is on win2000.
 
L

Larry Sabo

Steve King said:
Try RegCompact. So far, it's worked well when I've tried it. I can't
remember the official web site, but Google gives several sources to
download it. It's "donationware" or some such thing, so payment appears
to be voluntary.

Steve . . .

It doesn't change a thing on my system (Win2K). before and after hive
sizes are identical. It also doesn't have an uninstaller and doesn't
appear in Add/Remove Programs. Had to manually remove entries from
Program Files, Start Menu, and desktop icon. Clicking on the link to
the author's web page yielded a blank page (not found or unreachable,
I forget).

I'd avoid it, given that experience.

Larry
 
M

mike ring

The same happens with the databases: if you delete a record, you only
remove its field entries and the access for that record. You need to
compact the DB to remove the holes and to re-index it.
And if it's OE, have a ghastly accident

mike
 
S

Son Of Spy

mike said:
And if it's OE, have a ghastly accident

mike

registry compression procedure:
http://www.windowsnetworking.com/kb...ryTips/Miscellaneous/CompressNTsRegistry.html


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Cheers!

Son Of Spy


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R. L.

Steve King <[email protected]> says in

Try RegCompact. So far, it's worked well when I've tried
it. I can't remember the official web site, but Google
gives several sources to download it. It's "donationware"
or some such thing, so payment appears to be voluntary.


I found it here, have not tried it yet, I use Erunt.

http://www.setiathomescreensaverspeed.co.uk/downloads/freeware
/registry/regcompact/regcompact.htm

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Thorkild Dalsgaard

The only reg cleaners that defrag the registry (win2000) that I
know of, are trialware and not true freeware. They expire after
so many days and then ya gotta buy 'em.

Have I overlooked any true freeware cleaners that defragment the
registry?

Perhaps this is not quite what you ask, but:

Sysinternals freeware PageDefrag can defragment the registry files, and also
the pagefile

Here is a list of my win2000 files it can defragment:
file Size Fragments
D:\pagefile.sys 196608 1
D:\WIN2000\system32\config\AppEvent.Evt 128 8
D:\WIN2000\system32\config\default 32 1
D:\WIN2000\system32\config\SAM 6 1
D:\WIN2000\system32\config\SecEvent.Evt 16 1
D:\WIN2000\system32\config\SECURITY 6 1
D:\WIN2000\system32\config\software 5019 1
D:\WIN2000\system32\config\SysEvent.Evt 32 2
D:\WIN2000\system32\config\system 692 16
D:\WIN2000\system32\config\SYSTEM.ALT 692 14

<http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/pagedefrag.shtml>

I use it for both Win2000 and WinXP.

Regards
Thorkild Dalsgaard
 
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Antoine

MLC said:
venerdì 09/lug/2004 _Steve King_ in


Here it says Shareware $10.00:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=465

The link pointed by RL and some other sites hosting RegCompact (eg winsite) say it is
freeware. To know exactly what the licence was I downloaded RegCompact from winsite
(where it was said to be freeware). The installation window of RegCompact gives :

<quote>

IMPORTANT:
READ THIS LICENSE AGREEMENT BEFORE CONTINUING

RegCompact License Agreement
Copyright © 2000 Daniel Werner

1. RegCompact is Shareware. You are authorized to install, use, make backups of, distribute,
and reverse engineer RegCompact at no charge. If you find RegCompact useful, you are
asked to make a voluntary donation.

2. REGCOMPACT IS DISTRIBUTED "AS IS" WITH NO WARRANTY OF ANY KIND EITHER
EXPRESSED OR IMPLIED. YOU USE IT AT YOUR OWN RISK. THE AUTHOR WILL NOT
BE LIABLE FOR DATA LOSS, DAMAGES, LOSS OF PROFITS, BALDNESS OR ANY
OTHER KIND OF DAMAGES, WHETHER DIRECT OR CONSEQUENTIAL ARISING OUT OF
THE USE OR INABILITY TO USE THR REGCOMPACT PACKAGE OR ANY PART
THEREOF.

3. You are authorized to distribute this package as long as it is not modified in any way and no
money is charged for it other than distribution costs.

4. If you do not accept the terms of this agreement then you are not permitted to use
RegCompact.

</quote>

Conclusion : RegCompact is shareware and therefore OT.
 
V

Vrodok the Troll

On 9 Jul 2004 18:56:20 GMT, in Newsgroup--> alt.comp.freeware, the personage of
Antoine <[email protected]>, courtesy of Message-id
<[email protected]> and wondering whence the lambs &
piglets, bleated & squealed:

[snip]
Conclusion : RegCompact is shareware and therefore OT.

Have you ever installed RegCompact? And if so, has it ever dunned you for
payment?
I have installed v1.0, of RegCompact, and it has *never* come up with a msg,
requesting I pay.
Therefor, in my opinion, [the discussion of] RegCompact *is* on-topic, here.
 
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Vrodok the Troll

On 9 Jul 2004 14:31:25 -0500, in Newsgroup--> alt.comp.freeware, the personage
of Vrodok the Troll <[email protected]>, courtesy of Message-id
On 9 Jul 2004 18:56:20 GMT, in Newsgroup--> alt.comp.freeware, the personage of
Antoine <[email protected]>, courtesy of Message-id
<[email protected]> and wondering whence the lambs &
piglets, bleated & squealed:

[snip]
Conclusion : RegCompact is shareware and therefore OT.

Have you ever installed RegCompact? And if so, has it ever dunned you for
payment?
I have installed v1.0, of RegCompact, and it has *never* come up with a msg,
requesting I pay.
Therefor, in my opinion, [the discussion of] RegCompact *is* on-topic, here.

An "in part", from the original "ReadMe.txt", enclosed within the
self-extracting installer:

- - - - - - -

Shareware Information
========= ===========
RegCompact is Shareware. There is no mechanism in RegCompact
such as nag screens, time limits, etc. to try to make you pay. I trust the
good will of people to pay if they enjoy the program. To make it easy for
people to donate I have set up an online purchasing system at RegSoft.

[snip]
- - - - - - -

Stated as Shareware, however no method of enforcement (other than the user's
conscience). While, I suspect, a great many people here may deride me for
bringing this last point to notice, there is not, apparently (in my opinion, by
my reading of the ReadMe), any "push" by the program's author for
registration-fees to be paid.
 
A

Antoine

Vrodok the Troll said:
On 9 Jul 2004 18:56:20 GMT, in Newsgroup--> alt.comp.freeware, the
personage of Antoine <[email protected]>, courtesy of Message-id
<[email protected]> and wondering whence
the lambs & piglets, bleated & squealed:

[snip]
Conclusion : RegCompact is shareware and therefore OT.

Have you ever installed RegCompact? And if so, has it ever
dunned you for
payment?

Seing the shareware information, I skipped the installation.
I have installed v1.0, of RegCompact, and it has *never* come
up with a msg,
requesting I pay.
Therefor, in my opinion, [the discussion of] RegCompact *is*
on-topic, here.

Some other RegCompact users may perhaps confirm that RegCompact is a
non-expiring, non-limited shareware then.

Yet, in my opinion and in the spirit of freeware :
'non-expiring, non-crippled shareware' <> 'sheer freeware'
 
V

Vrodok the Troll

On 9 Jul 2004 19:50:01 GMT, in Newsgroup--> alt.comp.freeware, the personage of
Antoine <[email protected]>, courtesy of Message-id
Vrodok the Troll said:
On 9 Jul 2004 18:56:20 GMT, in Newsgroup--> alt.comp.freeware, the
personage of Antoine <[email protected]>, courtesy of Message-id
<[email protected]> and wondering whence
the lambs & piglets, bleated & squealed:

[snip]
Conclusion : RegCompact is shareware and therefore OT.

Have you ever installed RegCompact? And if so, has it ever
dunned you for
payment?

Seing the shareware information, I skipped the installation.
I have installed v1.0, of RegCompact, and it has *never* come
up with a msg,
requesting I pay.
Therefor, in my opinion, [the discussion of] RegCompact *is*
on-topic, here.

Some other RegCompact users may perhaps confirm that RegCompact is a
non-expiring, non-limited shareware then.

Yet, in my opinion and in the spirit of freeware :
'non-expiring, non-crippled shareware' <> 'sheer freeware'

Good point.
 
M

mike ring

registry compression procedure:
http://www.windowsnetworking.com/kbase/WindowsTips/WindowsNT/RegistryTi
ps/Miscellaneous/CompressNTsRegistry.html
" Link may wrap": You bet it will

Well, I've had no trouble compacting the registry - it's OE that's crashed
and burned horribly on compacting; It's done it twice, and even I can take
that sort of hint.

I couldn't get on with any other mail clients, which is why I went back to
it - but Thunderscape's here now. Loud cheers

mike
 
J

Jeff Needle News at General

I couldn't get on with any other mail clients, which is why I went back to
it - but Thunderscape's here now. Loud cheers

mike

What is Thunderscape?
 

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