Registry Cleaner?

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Edward W. Thompson

Navyguy said:
Can anyone suggest a good registry cleaner?

Thanks,
Robert
Here we go again! Please don't bite and trot out the 'boilerplate' we have
all seen so often. This is clearly a troll.
 
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Navyguy

Can anyone suggest a good registry cleaner?


Here we go again!  Please don't bite and trot out the 'boilerplate' we have
all seen so often.  This is clearly a troll.


If your referring to me, clearly you're mistaken, I'm simply asking
for some help.

Robert
 
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Navyguy

If your referring to me, clearly you're mistaken, I'm simply asking
for some help.

                                                             Robert

Ah, I get it now. I apoligize, since I'm aware that using the
registry in CCleaner is not advised.
What do you think of RegCure?

Robert
 
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TaurArian

Think your Registry needs "cleaning"? Read
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099

You decide.

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If your referring to me, clearly you're mistaken, I'm simply asking
for some help.

Robert

Ah, I get it now. I apoligize, since I'm aware that using the
registry in CCleaner is not advised.
What do you think of RegCure?

Robert
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Can anyone suggest a good registry cleaner?


There is no such thing as a good registry cleaner. Registry cleaning
programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the registry isn't needed
and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and don't use any registry
cleaner. Despite what many people think, and what vendors of registry
cleaning software try to convince you of, having unused registry
entries doesn't really hurt you.

The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
it may have.
 
B

Bruce Chambers

Navyguy said:
Can anyone suggest a good registry cleaner?

Thanks,
Robert


There's no such thing, free or otherwise.

A registry cleaner - even a safe one, should such ever be developed
- is an exercise in, at best, futility. There is no real need for
registry cleaners, other than to provide a profit to their
manufacturers. On rare occasions, registry cleaners can be, in the
hands of a skilled technician, useful, time-saving diagnostic tools.
Otherwise, they're nothing but snake oil.

Why do you even think you'd ever need to clean your registry? What
specific *problems* are you actually experiencing (not some program's
bogus listing of imaginary problems) that you think can be fixed by
using a registry cleaner?

If you do have a problem that is rooted in the registry, it would
be far better to simply edit (after backing up, of course) only the
specific key(s) and/or value(s) that are causing the problem. After
all, why use a chainsaw when a scalpel will do the job? Additionally,
the manually changing of one or two registry entries is far less likely
to have the dire consequences of allowing an automated product to make
multiple changes simultaneously. The only thing needed to safely clean
your registry is knowledge and Regedit.exe.

The registry contains all of the operating system's "knowledge" of
the computer's hardware devices, installed software, the location of the
device drivers, and the computer's configuration. A misstep in the
registry can have severe consequences. One should not even turning
loose a poorly understood automated "cleaner," unless he is fully
confident that he knows *exactly* what is going to happen as a result of
each and every change.

Having repeatedly seen the results of inexperienced people using
automated registry "cleaners," I can only advise all but the most
experienced computer technicians (and/or hobbyists) to avoid them all.
Experience has shown me that such tools simply are not safe in the hands
of the inexperienced user. If you lack the knowledge and experience to
maintain your registry by yourself, then you also lack the knowledge and
experience to safely configure and use any automated registry cleaner,
no matter how safe they claim to be.

More importantly, no one has ever demonstrated that the use of an
automated registry cleaner, particularly by an untrained, inexperienced
computer user, does any real good, whatsoever. There's certainly been
no empirical evidence offered to demonstrate that the use of such
products to "clean" WinXP's registry improves a computer's performance
or stability. Given the potential for harm, it's just not worth the risk.

Granted, most registry "cleaners" won't cause problems each and
every time they're used, but the potential for harm is always there.
And, since no registry "cleaner" has ever been demonstrated to do any
good (think of them like treating the flu with chicken soup - there's no
real medicinal value, but it sometimes provides a warming placebo
effect), I always tell people that the risks far out-weigh the
non-existent benefits.

I will concede that a good registry *scanning* tool, in the hands
of an experienced and knowledgeable technician or hobbyist can be a
useful time-saving diagnostic tool, as long as it's not allowed to make
any changes automatically. But I really don't think that there are any
registry cleaners that are truly safe for the general public to use.
Experience has proven just the opposite: such tools simply are not safe
in the hands of the inexperienced user.



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Navyguy

There is no such thing as a good registry cleaner. Registry cleaning
programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the registry isn't needed
and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and don't use any registry
cleaner. Despite what many people think, and what vendors of registry
cleaning software try to convince you of, having unused registry
entries doesn't really hurt you.

The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
it may have.

Thanks Ken,
I remember you had helped me previously with some problems I had and
stayed with me until they were resolved so I will take your advice .
The problem is that I'm trying to remove the remnants of a game and
nothing seems to work. Any suggestions?


Thanks,

Robert
 
K

Kayman

Thanks Ken,
I remember you had helped me previously with some problems I had and
stayed with me until they were resolved so I will take your advice .
The problem is that I'm trying to remove the remnants of a game and
nothing seems to work. Any suggestions?

Already removed the application from the Add/Remove Program panel?
If yes, did you reboot?

One of these tools may assist also:

Absolute Uninstaller
http://www.glarysoft.com/au.html

Brute Force Uninstaller
http://www.majorgeeks.com/Brute_Force_Uninstaller_BFU_d4714.html

Revo Uninstaller
http://www.revouninstaller.com/

Unlocker for Windows 2000, Windows XP and Windows 2003
http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker

RegSeeker
http://www.hoverdesk.net/freeware.htm
RegSeeker will remove all associated detritus (registry keys,files and
folders) from any application. I found this application user friendly and
very effective but suggest *NOT* to use the 'Clean the Registry' option.
Click onto 'Find in registry' and in the 'Search for' box type *name of
application*; The pertinent registry keys can then be safely deleted (just
in case, ensure that the 'Backup before deletion' is checked). Repeat the
task by typing in the Search for' box *name of application*. You can then
go on search and remove associated files as well.
Then use NTREGOPT to *compact* the registry; Follow instructions.
http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt

Still no luck?
Repeat the entire process in Safe-Mode.

Good luck :)
 
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Ken Blake, MVP

Thanks Ken,
I remember you had helped me previously with some problems I had and
stayed with me until they were resolved so I will take your advice .
The problem is that I'm trying to remove the remnants of a game and
nothing seems to work. Any suggestions?


Where do you see these remnants? Just in the registry?

If so, ignore them. They don't hurt you at all.

If elsewhere, please explain what game it is, what you see, and where.
 
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Navyguy

Where do you see these remnants? Just in the registry?

If so, ignore them. They don't hurt you at all.

If elsewhere, please explain what game it is, what you see, and where.

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Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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The Game is Jedi Kight, Jedi Academy and I see it on the Add/Remove
programs. I tried deleting it and thought I had done so but there's
still 23MB sitting there and won't let me delete it. I know it won't
hurt the system etc but it just irks me that its there. Just forget
about?

Thanks Robert
 
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Daave

Navyguy said:
The Game is Jedi Kight, Jedi Academy and I see it on the Add/Remove
programs. I tried deleting it and thought I had done so but there's
still 23MB sitting there and won't let me delete it. I know it won't
hurt the system etc but it just irks me that its there. Just forget
about?

If you reinstall it, you may be able to uninstall it.
 
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Unknown

Where is the 23MB located? Many people have had success booting in safe
mode and deleting there.
Where do you see these remnants? Just in the registry?

If so, ignore them. They don't hurt you at all.

If elsewhere, please explain what game it is, what you see, and where.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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The Game is Jedi Kight, Jedi Academy and I see it on the Add/Remove
programs. I tried deleting it and thought I had done so but there's
still 23MB sitting there and won't let me delete it. I know it won't
hurt the system etc but it just irks me that its there. Just forget
about?

Thanks Robert
 
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Ken Blake, MVP

The Game is Jedi Kight, Jedi Academy and I see it on the Add/Remove
programs. I tried deleting it and thought I had done so but there's
still 23MB sitting there and won't let me delete it. I know it won't
hurt the system etc but it just irks me that its there. Just forget
about?


Did you just delete it or remove it from Add/Remove Programs? You
might try reinstalling it, then removing it Add/Remove Programs.
 
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Navyguy

Did you just delete it or remove it from Add/Remove Programs? You
might try reinstalling it, then removing it Add/Remove Programs.

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Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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I deleted it or thought I did. I have tried reinstalling but this time
I selected uninstall and that did it.


Thanks,

Robert
 
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Ken Blake, MVP

I deleted it or thought I did. I have tried reinstalling but this time
I selected uninstall and that did it.


Good. In the future, never just delete a program (unless there is no
other choice), but always uninstall it.



You're welcome. Glad to help.
 

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