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[John John]

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For reasons known only to Bill Gates and God - is that the same
thing? - MS has eshewed all kinds of useful utilities and allowed
the 3rd party folks to take center stage. I've always wondered
what MS might've been able to do had they really tried.
Seriously, with no hint whatsoever about MS bashing, who better
to write competant utilities than the designer/builder of the
O/S?

Microsoft didn't write the OneCare utilities, nor did they write the
registry cleaner that is mentioned on their web site, these utilities
were written by what was previously Giant Software, Microsoft bought
them out so that they could expand their business and get into the AV
business. If my memory serves me well the total AV business is pegged
at about 12 billion dollars a year and it is a market that Microsoft
would dearly love to get a share of.

Of course Microsoft is rewriting and reassessing the Giant/OneCare
utilities that it ships but the bulk of these utilities were not written
by Microsoft. Until Giant was bought out by Microsoft many people had
never even heard of them before.

John

 

[Unknown]

You are quite correct---noone owes me any explanations. But your credibility
is so utterly non existent because
of the blatant idiotic notions you post without EVER documenting, proving or
explaining any of them.

 

[Stan Brown]

I clean my Registry periodically with JV16 Powertools 100% only
to get rid of unnessary clutter such as obsolete or invalid keys,
leftover shortcuts and the like. Can't say I have ever seen a
performance increase, though.

So your philosophy is "if it ain't broke, fix it anyway"?

 

[HEMI-Powered]

Stan Brown added these comments in the current discussion du
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Mon, 05 Nov 2007 00:56:56 GMT from HEMI-Powered


So your philosophy is "if it ain't broke, fix it anyway"?

No, the exact opposite. I didn't say so in this thread, but a
Registry scan is part of my periodic malware extensve scans. That
makes sense, at least to me, to see if something may have slipped
by that I recognize as "bad" but in the process, I clear out the
obvious crap. I do NOT go looking just for the sake of looking,
ditto for cleaning ever, ditto for performance increases because I
don't feel there are any to be gained.

 

[Ron Ruys]

CCleaner was used on my recently rebuilt hard drive and disassociatd all file
extensions on my computer. No programs worked anymore because exe did not
work any more so another complete rebuild had to be done. I will not use it
again.

 

[bojimbo26]

I`ve just looked at ccleaner , can`t see anything about disassociating
file extensions .( Use it all the time )



On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:08:01 -0800, Ron Ruys <Ron

 

[Olórin]

I`ve just looked at ccleaner , can`t see anything about disassociating
file extensions .( Use it all the time )



On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:08:01 -0800, Ron Ruys <Ron

I note the use of the passive tense: "CCleaner was used...". Call me
cynical, but it makes me wonder if Ron used it himself and, as a result,
found associations lost - or whether someone else did some work on his
machine for him and pointed the finger at CCleaner when things went
belly-up.

 

[D. Spencer Hines]

I note the use of the passive tense: "CCleaner was used...". Call me

cynical, but it makes me wonder if Ron used it himself and, as a result,
found associations lost - or whether someone else did some work on his
machine for him and pointed the finger at CCleaner when things went
belly-up.

Perceptive.

I'm a regular user of CCleaner and have not encountered any such problems.

Note the use of the active voice -- not the passive voice.

DSH

 

[Daave]

I note the use of the passive tense: "CCleaner was used...". Call me
cynical, but it makes me wonder if Ron used it himself and, as a
result, found associations lost - or whether someone else did some
work on his machine for him and pointed the finger at CCleaner when
things went belly-up.

Quite possibly the case. It's like when a politician says, "Mistakes
were made."

 

[Olórin]

Perceptive.

I'm a regular user of CCleaner and have not encountered any such problems.

Note the use of the active voice -- not the passive voice.

DSH

Whoops, is it "voice"? (Hits the Web.) Ook. I hate getting that sort of
thing wrong!

 

[D. Spencer Hines]

You were right on the substance.

I don't think he knows what he's talking about.

DSH

 

[Linda W]

Why did I purchase Registry Cleaner last week and tonight when I typed in
www.windows.com I was hit with Registry Smart that found over 1000 errors on
my computer after Registry Cleaner had found errors and fixes them after I
paid them the $39.95 fee last week? Now Registry Smart wants me to pay them
to correct these other 1000 errors. Is all of this a scam?

 

[Edward W. Thompson]

Why did I purchase Registry Cleaner last week and tonight when I typed in
www.windows.com I was hit with Registry Smart that found over 1000 errors
on
my computer after Registry Cleaner had found errors and fixes them after I
paid them the $39.95 fee last week? Now Registry Smart wants me to pay
them
to correct these other 1000 errors. Is all of this a scam?

snip

Yes, it is a scam. Firstly and most importantly, if you have 'errors' in
your Registry you will have problems running the OS and/or program. If you
do have these problems Registry Cleaners will not help. What these cleaners
term as errors are not errors they are simply entries in the Registry that
the 'Cleaners' determine are redundant. Contrary to what many may tell you,
these redundant entries do absolutely no harm and have no effect on the
operation of the OS or programs. They may inflate the size of the Registry
but as disk space is the least of problems with modern machines, this is of
no consequence. Further, occasionally Registry Cleaners will remove or
advise removal of Registry entries that are required for the running of
installed programs and if acted upon will require you to reinstall the
program.

There are many who will tell you that Registry Cleaners will/may damage the
OS. So far no one has yet given any evidence of this other than hearsay but
the overall advice of these programs have the potential of doing harm
without doing any good is valid.

 

[D. Spencer Hines]

CCleaner is very helpful in this respect.

DSH

snip

Yes, it is a scam. Firstly and most importantly, if you have 'errors' in
your Registry you will have problems running the OS and/or program. If
you do have these problems Registry Cleaners will not help. What these
cleaners term as errors are not errors they are simply entries in the
Registry that the 'Cleaners' determine are redundant. Contrary to what
many may tell you, these redundant entries do absolutely no harm and have
no effect on the operation of the OS or programs. They may inflate the
size of the Registry but as disk space is the least of problems with
modern machines, this is of no consequence. Further, occasionally
Registry Cleaners will remove or advise removal of Registry entries that
are required for the running of installed programs and if acted upon will
require you to reinstall the program.

There are many who will tell you that Registry Cleaners will/may damage
the OS. So far no one has yet given any evidence of this other than
hearsay but the overall advice of these programs have the potential of
doing harm without doing any good is valid.

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Why did I purchase Registry Cleaner last week and tonight when I typed in
www.windows.com I was hit with Registry Smart that found over 1000 errors on
my computer after Registry Cleaner had found errors and fixes them after I
paid them the $39.95 fee last week? Now Registry Smart wants me to pay them
to correct these other 1000 errors. Is all of this a scam?

Yes, registry cleaners are all a scam.


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[Bruce Chambers]

CCleaner is very helpful in this respect.

No, it is not. It''s not better than any of the other snake oil scams
available.


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[Ken Blake, MVP]

On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 20:11:00 -0800, Linda W <Linda

Why did I purchase Registry Cleaner last week and tonight when I typed in
www.windows.com I was hit with Registry Smart that found over 1000 errors on
my computer after Registry Cleaner had found errors and fixes them after I
paid them the $39.95 fee last week? Now Registry Smart wants me to pay them
to correct these other 1000 errors. Is all of this a scam?

All registry cleaners are scams at best. At worst, they can completely
hose your system.

I strongly suggest you avoid using any registry cleaning program. They
are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is
dangerous. Leave the registry alone and don't use any registry
cleaner. Despite what many people think, and what vendors of registry
cleaning software try to convince you of, having unused registry
entries doesn't really hurt you.

The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
it may have.

 

[D. Spencer Hines]

Nonsense.

Chambers is just blustering and burbling.

CCleaner works beautifully as a Registry Cleaner.

<http://www.ccleaner.com/>

Try it...

DSH

D. Spencer Hines wrote:

CCleaner is very helpful in this respect.

No, it is not. It''s [sic] not better than any of the other snake oil
scams available.

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Nonsense.

Chambers is just blustering and burbling.

CCleaner works beautifully as a Registry Cleaner.

*NO* registry cleaner works "beautifully," as *NONE* of them do
anything in the least bit useful or beneficial.

And CCLeaner, in particular, products nothing but false positives,
identifying orphaned entries where none exist. I've tested it.


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Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:


They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot

 

[Daave]

Evidence?

CCleaner is very helpful in this respect.

DSH