Regarding Mozilla Browser Compatibility in an application

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Hi,
We have developed a web application that works very good in IE. But now the
client require the same application to work on various browsers other than
IE. For eg. Mozilla. When we tried to open the application in Mozilla the
appearance of the application was not like it is in IE. I want our
application to run the same in all browsers. Can anyone help me in this
regards.

Thanks in advance,
N.Ramakrishnan
 
Hi,

I am using html 4.0 standards only. Following is the code

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN" >

Is there any other hidden problems there. Can you help me out.

Regards,
N.Ramakrishnan
 
huh old standards ???????????

firefox / mozilla is far ahead of IE 6 when it becomes to industry
standard specs ( with IE 7 ms has some catching up to do )

the problem i see most of the times has more to do with people writing IE
only HTML or using CSS that only IE understands
Both Mozilla and IE are strict to W3C rules so write your code strict to W3c
recomendations and you should be pretty safe

also with script do not use the shorter Jscript but use true Javascript
this will work on both browsers without having to write anny line of "if IE
do this if mozi;l;a then etc etc

see this pretty complicated websites i wrote

http://www.bildelskatalogen.se/ ( swedish )

enter as a vistor
http://www.tireponline.de/login.aspx?ReturnUrl=/Default.aspx ( german )


visit these websites with IE or Mozilla / Firefox on Windows , Linux /
Unix or Mac and you will see no difference at all
i have not written anny extra code to get this functioning nowhere in my
code i use tech to switch content for another browser

It requirs some investigating , and knowledge of javascript and not to
depend to much on ASP.Net web controls ( i wrote most of the controls and
actions myself )

regards

Michel Posseth [MCP]
 
Michal,

Is the "Filter" already in the W3C rules? I thought not and than you need
that easy making of that dynamic "VB-Tips" as on our website forever to do
as immages and I don't like to do everything with images. It gives often a
weird view on non standard or minimized windows. The site runes fine on
firefox by the way. (And there is a lot more to do with filters)

http://www.vb-tips.com/default.aspx

We are busy changing the site to more Net 2.0 style and do meanwhile some
other changes so please wait with comments before we have to start
everything again new.

Cor
 
Well even if something is in the w3c list it doesn`t guarantee that it will
work on every browser

as example take the marquee tag and the blink tag , marquee will work only
in IE blink will only work in netscape / firefox

However i code html to the W3C standards and if a tag / style or script
is not supported in all mozilla compatible browsers
( yes even IE is a Mozilla compatible browser ) then i simply don`t use it
in my project , and use a workaround to simulate the wanted effect even if
this means using pictures as you might have seen on my example sites they
can be minimized to anny size without something weird happening ( original
design specs were 800 * 600 minimum ) but i have the luxuery to have made
these websites with a graphics artist

Microsoft has the tendency to make things a litle bit to easy , shorter
Jscipt syntax for instance however the longer Javascript syntaxt is also
suported so the choice is are you going to limit yourself to a windows and
IE only audience ? i feel that the web should be open and vissible to
anyone also to those people who not choose to use IE as there prefered
browser , although it is the easiest way to code only for IE as it is the
most flexible browser when it comes to interpreting standards .


regards

Michel Posseth
 
Hi,

For example in a text area if you set a height and width the text
area will dislay properly in IE not firefox. You need to use rows and cols
for it to display properly in both. Hope that makes sense

Ken
----------------
m.posseth said:
huh old standards ???????????

firefox / mozilla is far ahead of IE 6 when it becomes to industry
standard specs ( with IE 7 ms has some catching up to do )

the problem i see most of the times has more to do with people writing IE
only HTML or using CSS that only IE understands
Both Mozilla and IE are strict to W3C rules so write your code strict to
W3c recomendations and you should be pretty safe

also with script do not use the shorter Jscript but use true Javascript
this will work on both browsers without having to write anny line of "if
IE do this if mozi;l;a then etc etc

see this pretty complicated websites i wrote

http://www.bildelskatalogen.se/ ( swedish )

enter as a vistor
http://www.tireponline.de/login.aspx?ReturnUrl=/Default.aspx (
german )


visit these websites with IE or Mozilla / Firefox on Windows , Linux
/ Unix or Mac and you will see no difference at all
i have not written anny extra code to get this functioning nowhere in my
code i use tech to switch content for another browser

It requirs some investigating , and knowledge of javascript and not to
depend to much on ASP.Net web controls ( i wrote most of the controls and
actions myself )

regards

Michel Posseth [MCP]



Ken Tucker said:
Hi,

Make sure you are using html 4.0 standards for it to display
properly. IE will render the older standards properly.

http://www.asptoday.com/Content.aspx?id=2339

Ken
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just create the apropriate class or style
width: 100%; height: 100%; and it will work in both browsers without a
problem

in my project i use this one ( the text area you see if you go into the
warenkorb )

..textAreaOrderRef {
font-weight: normal;

font-size: 11px;

overflow: hidden;

width: 100%;

color: #000000;

border-top-style: none;

line-height: 15px;

font-family: Verdana, Helvetica;

border-right-style: none;

border-left-style: none;

height: 100%;

background-color: #ffffff;

border-bottom-style: none;

}

this will make it really nice integrated in a table

so i guess some CSS would be the bether solution , and then you will notice
that the CSS implementation of firefox is better as that of the current IE
as Firefox is a more modern browser


regards

Michel Posseth





Ken Tucker said:
Hi,

For example in a text area if you set a height and width the text
area will dislay properly in IE not firefox. You need to use rows and
cols for it to display properly in both. Hope that makes sense

Ken
----------------
m.posseth said:
huh old standards ???????????

firefox / mozilla is far ahead of IE 6 when it becomes to industry
standard specs ( with IE 7 ms has some catching up to do )

the problem i see most of the times has more to do with people writing IE
only HTML or using CSS that only IE understands
Both Mozilla and IE are strict to W3C rules so write your code strict to
W3c recomendations and you should be pretty safe

also with script do not use the shorter Jscript but use true Javascript
this will work on both browsers without having to write anny line of "if
IE do this if mozi;l;a then etc etc

see this pretty complicated websites i wrote

http://www.bildelskatalogen.se/ ( swedish )

enter as a vistor
http://www.tireponline.de/login.aspx?ReturnUrl=/Default.aspx (
german )


visit these websites with IE or Mozilla / Firefox on Windows , Linux
/ Unix or Mac and you will see no difference at all
i have not written anny extra code to get this functioning nowhere in my
code i use tech to switch content for another browser

It requirs some investigating , and knowledge of javascript and not to
depend to much on ASP.Net web controls ( i wrote most of the controls and
actions myself )

regards

Michel Posseth [MCP]



Ken Tucker said:
Hi,

Make sure you are using html 4.0 standards for it to display
properly. IE will render the older standards properly.

http://www.asptoday.com/Content.aspx?id=2339

Ken
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in message Hi,
We have developed a web application that works very good in IE. But now
the
client require the same application to work on various browsers other
than
IE. For eg. Mozilla. When we tried to open the application in Mozilla
the
appearance of the application was not like it is in IE. I want our
application to run the same in all browsers. Can anyone help me in this
regards.

Thanks in advance,
N.Ramakrishnan
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Michael,

We are busy as I wrote in changing our website to 2.0. I am impressed in the
way that VS 2005 helps, to use correct HTML code accoording to the used
doctype.

Cor
 
well Cor i write all my websites for 90% from the code behind , so this is a
feature that will give me no benefit :-(
 
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