Refill-friendly multi-function printer recommendations?

[Bernie Bernbaum]

I'm looking to purchase either an ink-jet or laser multi-function machine (printer, scanner, fax, copier). I'm looking for recommendations on machines where quality toner or ink refills are readily available. I prefer machines where the toner or ink levels can be reset. Thank you

 

[measekite]

Bernie Bernbaum wrote:

I'm looking to purchase either an ink-jet or laser multi-function machine (printer, scanner, fax, copier).  I'm looking for recommendations on machines where quality toner or ink refills are readily available.  I prefer machines where the toner or ink levels can be reset.  Thank you


Get a laser.  There is no quality ink for an inkjet other than what is produced by the OEM save for Pantone.  And that is produced only for Epson printers and may even cost more.

 

[Frank]

measekite wrote:


SPAM!!!
Frank

 

[Aftermarketink]

Try to get a older Canon like a IP4000...easy to refill and
compatibles are also available.

There is a post somewhere on this forum that has a link to a Canon's
management person
stating that generic black ink is as good as thier own OEM ink. I
don't use generic ink...just ink specifically designed for this
printer by a third party...and I would agree with Canon but the third
party ink I use is even better than Canon's own ink.

 

[measekite]

Try to get a older Canon like a IP4000...easy to refill and
compatibles are also available.

That is poor advice. I have an IP4000. It is a good printer but the
IP4500 is a better printer. The technology is newer and the ink
formulation is newer resulting in a longer lasting print. You also have
the advantage of leds on the carts that let you know when to change the
ink but they do cost a couple of dollars more.

There is a post somewhere on this forum that has a link to a Canon's
management person
stating that generic black ink is as good as thier own OEM ink. It really is not.
I
don't use generic ink...just ink specifically designed for this
printer by a third party..

Any third party or NON CANON INK is generic ink.

.and I would agree with Canon but the third
party ink I use is even better than Canon's own ink.

Canon does not say that.

 

[Frank]

measekite wrote:

....just his usual pack of uninformed lies.
Typical of the idiot.
Frank

 

[Bernie Bernbaum]

Try to get a older Canon like a IP4000...easy to refill and
compatibles are also available.

There is a post somewhere on this forum that has a link to a Canon's
management person
stating that generic black ink is as good as thier own OEM ink. I
don't use generic ink...just ink specifically designed for this
printer by a third party...and I would agree with Canon but the third
party ink I use is even better than Canon's own ink.

May I ask what that third party is? Thx

 

[Aftermarketink]

I would stay away from IP4500 as I use to own one and there is no
noticeable difference in the print quality. Also the cartridges are
chipped and the only way so far to refill and reset the chip is
through a refill store. I sold the printer. The IP4000 prints great
and even better with aftermarket ink...Canon stated that any generic
ink will do...I use only aftermrket ink designed for this
printer...the black is out of this world.

When I bought the printer I? was having a problem with the OEM pigment
black for text printing. I changed papers to HP colorlok but was still
having problems with highlighters. The ink would still smudge. When I
read a artical in the paper a Canon rep said any generic ink would
print black as good as Canon's OEM...I figuard that I would try a
black designed for Canon's pigment black. It worked no more smudging

 

[measekite]

I would stay away from IP4500 as I use to own one and there is no
noticeable difference in the print quality.

The Canon IP4500 is the best standard format printer today and is the
best value. The newer formulated Canon ink has the best fade resistance
of all of their previous models.

Also the cartridges are
chipped Not a problem, they work find.
and the only way so far to refill and reset the chip is
through a refill store.

Not a biggie if you want the best photo quality with the least risk of
fading. And if you do not print much the OEM ink presents the lowest
risk of printhead clogging.

I sold the printer. The IP4000 prints great
and even better with aftermarket ink...

Not true. I have an IP4000 using Canon ink and the results are very
good. I think that the IP4500 is better. The visual difference in
print quality may not always be apparent but the new ink is more fade
resistent.

Canon stated that any generic
ink will do..

No they did not. Look at their website.

.I use only aftermrket ink designed for this
printer...the black is out of this world.

It certainly out of this world and does not work well on earth.

When I bought the printer I? was having a problem with the OEM pigment
black for text printing. My IP4000 never had a problem.
I changed papers to HP colorlok but was still
having problems with highlighters. The ink would still smudge. When I
read a artical in the paper a Canon rep said any generic ink would
print black as good as Canon's OEM...I figuard that I would try a
black designed for Canon's pigment black. It worked no more smudging

It dries so fast that it will clog the printhead if you do not print a
great deal.

 

[Frank]

measekite wrote:

....such ignorant stupid lies as to be totally unbelievable.
What a dipshit moron this clown is.
Frank

 

[Aftermarketink]

The best standard format printer is the HP K5400. Much better ink,
faster and mort reliability than the Canon IP4500 and cheaper to
operate. The aftermarket ink for this printer has been resently
introduced and from what I seen is excellent.

But if you can get a Canon IP4000 even used it's still a good
value...and a huge saving if you use aftermarket ink...Canon has said
that any generic ink will do...I choose to believe Canon over anyone
on this forum.

 

[measekite]

The best standard format printer is the HP K5400.

The best standard format printer for printing photos is the Canon
IP4500. HP Officejets print text better.

Much better ink,
faster and mort reliability than the Canon IP4500 and cheaper to
operate.

Not true. I use both HP and Canon and Canon costs less to operate. As
far as durability they are both fine.

The aftermarket ink for this printer has been resently
introduced and from what I seen is excellent.
No generic ink is any good.
But if you can get a Canon IP4000

I would rather have an IP4500 and I own an IP4000. It is a great
printer but if you get another you might as well get the latest technology.

even used it's still a good
value...and a huge saving

There is no ink savings but you may spend less. You see the ink costs
less but the value is way less. Greater propensity to fade, lower
quality photos and a better chance to clog your printhead.

if you use aftermarket ink...Canon has said
that any generic ink will do..

They never said that. Go to their website and find it. Maybe this
poster is in the ink business. Sounds like it to me.

 

[Frank]

measekite wrote:


SPAMMER!!!
Frank

 

[Aftermarketink]

I would recommend the HP K5400 if your not able to source a IP4000.

The IP4000 is a very good printer for text and photos and very simular
to the IP4500. Using a cheap generic ink should produce the same
results...accourding to a Canon Rep.

The K5400 is great at printing text and photos that will out last any
of the above Canons. If you use a quality aftermarket in made for this
printer your resualts will still surpass the above Canons. The K5400
is faster, cheaper to operate and better quality than the above
mentioned Canons. The black printhead on the K5400 is rated for
40,000+ pages.

 

[measekite]

I would recommend the HP K5400 if your not able to source a IP4000.

The IP4000 is a very good printer for text and photos and very simular
to the IP4500.

One difference is the superior Canon ink that has greater fade
resistance. Canon officially says that no ink can compare. It seems
that anyone contradicting this is a liar.

Using a cheap generic ink should produce the same
results...accourding to a Canon Rep.

The K5400 is great at printing text and photos that will out last any
of the above Canons.

HP makes a decent printer. I have one. However, all of the magazines
(PC World and PC Magazine) make Canon the editors choice. I am sure
that there are jerky ink peddlers trying to make enough for MacDonalds
dollar menu would have a different opinion.

If you use a quality aftermarket in made for this
printer your resualts will still surpass the above Canons.

Impossible

snip

 

[Aftermarketink]

People are very jeolous that HP dominates the peoples choice...but
that's ok...

Buy OEM ink...eat MacDonalds dollar menu items...Buy Aftermarket
ink...eat from the main menu.

Officialy Canon's rep stated that any generic ink is as good as
thiers...that's a fact. Aftermarket ink made for Canon is better than
generic ink...everyone knows that. I am just the messager.

 

[LF]

<snip>

The black printhead on the K5400 is rated for

40,000+ pages.

Do you know if the printhead is replaceable, and what it costs? or who
makes after market ink for it?
Thnks
Larry

 

[Frank]

....just another bunch of his uninformed stupid lies.
Frank

 

[measekite]

People are very jeolous that HP dominates the peoples choice...but
that's ok...

snip

I think he goes he he he

 

[Aftermarketink]

The printheads are replaceable and cost about $60.00 for black and
yellow. This is from HP website.

As far as ink you can use OCP ink in this printer.