Red hat Linux requires product activation

[Greg]

http://www.redhat.com/apps/activate/
Red hat Linux requires product activation. I thought that this was
against the intention of the Linux developer. I also, think this
might be against Linux GPL licensing. Linux can be used on more than
one system it. I don't want any more products that require activation.
I refuse to purchase any more stuff the requires product activation.

Sorry for the double posting I just though the xp group would like to
have a laugh.

Now if I'm wrong. Sorry about this posting.

Greg P Rozelle

 

[Harry Ohrn]

What to see some prices? http://www.redhat.com/apps/commerce/

 

[Adrian]

That's for the corporate types who like to spend a fortune on software, it
makes them feel they got a lot for their money. Of course, the ISOs are
completely free for download...

~ Adrian ~

 

[joseph philip]

http://www.redhat.com/apps/activate/
Red hat Linux requires product activation. I thought that this was
against the intention of the Linux developer. I also, think this might
be against Linux GPL licensing. Linux can be used on more than one
system it. I don't want any more products that require activation.
I refuse to purchase any more stuff the requires product activation.

Sorry for the double posting I just though the xp group would like to
have a laugh.

Now if I'm wrong. Sorry about this posting.

Greg P Rozelle

Dunno about the XP group, but I definitely had a laugh here. That is for
"Redhat Enterprise Linux Users". Are you an enterprise user?

Above the "Product ID Number" label, there is a line that says,

"Activate your product to become entitled to Red Hat services."


What part of "Red Hat services" did you not understand? Redhat services
and Redhat Linux are two very different things. One is a service and the
other is a Linux distribution. The latter is available from their ftp and
http servers, for you to download, install, manage and trubleshoot as you
please. You are however not entitled to their support if you download and
just use it.

Take your pick:
Free OS and No support
Or
Free OS and Support


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[Miguel De Anda]

http://www.redhat.com/apps/activate/
Red hat Linux requires product activation. I thought that this was
against the intention of the Linux developer.

If you look in linux groups, you will notice a lot of people don't like red
hat. It seems to be one of the bigger ones b/c it is available in stores,
just like windows and stuff. I haven't had any experience with their tech
support, but I think its pretty safe to say that tech support anywhere
blows.

People who expect support will get dissappointed next week if on windows,
and probably next month if on linux.

 

[Greg P Rozelle]

To joseph philip

http://www.redhat.com/apps/activate/

I misread.
Activate your product to become entitled to Red Hat services
However that is a step toward requiring activation for their product.


Greg P Rozelle

 

[Kirk Strauser]

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I haven't had any experience with their tech support, but I think its
pretty safe to say that tech support anywhere blows.

I completely disagree. I've heard only good things about Red Hat's TS.
That only implies that I haven't heard from their dissatisfied customers, of
course, but the general impression I get is that their support really is a
decent product.
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[nobody]

: To joseph philip

: http://www.redhat.com/apps/activate/

: I misread.
: Activate your product to become entitled to Red Hat services
: However that is a step toward requiring activation for their product.

Another step- which they have already taken- is to keep a full
listing of your hardware and configuration. This is required as part
of the update process, which is no $$ at the moment for
a single user/ single system, but which will very likely
cost in the future.

I have been using RH for a long time and have been happy enough.
With these new policies (like updates for only 6 months
after each next major rev which means about 1 year) I'll
likely be shopping around for something less abusive.

If RH keeps at it they'll figure out how to make Microsoft look good.
But hey- when you own a market you do what you want.

Stan

 

[Crusty \(-: Old B@stard :-\)]

Where?

 

[Harry Ohrn]

here for Redhat 9
ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/redhat/9/en/iso/i386/ Just
download the three i386 files

or here to find other d/ls http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/

 

[Bill Unruh]

(e-mail address removed) (Greg P Rozelle) writes:

]To joseph philip

]http://www.redhat.com/apps/activate/

]I misread.
]Activate your product to become entitled to Red Hat services
]However that is a step toward requiring activation for their product.

Uh, no. It is a step toward activating service support. Do you really
expect redhat to provide everything for free?
It would be pretty hard to require activation of the product. The first
thing that would happen is that someone would figure out how to
deactivate the activtion requirement, and distribute that altered
version, which they can under GPL.

 

[notbob]

I completely disagree. I've heard only good things about Red Hat's TS.
That only implies that I haven't heard from their dissatisfied customers, of
course, but the general impression I get is that their support really is a
decent product.

I've never quite understood the concept of "support" from RH. As I
understand it, if you buy the basic RH desktop version for suggested
retail of $60, you get 30 days support after you activate, and this
entails, basically, 2 phone calls. So, a new user calls to ask, "How
do I log in?", and then calls back to ask "How do I stop the file
listing from scrolling by?", or some other equally inane question, and
his support is shot ...at $30 PER QUESTION!!. WTF good is that?

It seems to me a Linux user is not going to be served well by paying
for support from RH. First, to get full time support would be
hideously expensive, and second, the user is not likely to retain much
if (s)he is not learning how to "learn linux". And, when it comes to
large scale users (enterprise) of RH, the IT dept should have at least
one person who is every bit as knowledgeable/capable as any RH support
person. The only place I can see a reason for support for RH is for
their screwy proprietary variations of Linux. Like, "How come
everytime I change the foo file, and reboot, the file gets
overwritten?". IOW, who would need RH support if they weren't using
such a bloated, proprietary, piece of crap version of Linux?


nb

 

[Greg P Rozelle]

To Hognoxious,
I am not a troll!

Greg P Rozelle

 

[hognoxious]

To Hognoxious,
I am not a troll!

Well, that's to be decided.

Greg P Rozell

You ARE a top poster though, which is nearly as bad.

 

[Greg P Rozelle]

To Hognoxis,

In my other post this is what I said

-->"I misread. Activate your product to become entitled to Red Hat
services."

--->"However that is a step toward requiring activation for their
product"
^^^That is my opinion and state sort of agreed with me.



States Comment
[[another step- which they have already taken- is to keep a full
listing of your hardware and configuration. This is required as part
of the update process, which is no $$ at the moment for
a single user/ single system, but which will very likely
cost in the future.

I have been using RH for a long time and have been happy enough.
With these new policies (like updates for only 6 months
after each next major rev which means about 1 year) I'll
likely be shopping around for something less abusive.

If RH keeps at it they'll figure out how to make Microsoft look good.
But hey- when you own a market you do what you want.

Stan]]


Opinion is not a troll.

Not to become a troll on a troll subject, I will ignore any more
posting about being a troll.

Greg P Rozelle

To Hognoxious,
I am not a troll!

Well, that's to be decided.

Greg P Rozell

You ARE a top poster though, which is nearly as bad.

 

[Greg P Rozelle]

Correction post
To Hognoxis,

In my other post this is what I said

-->"I misread. Activate your product to become entitled to Red Hat
services."

--->"However that is a step toward requiring activation for their
product"
^^^That is my opinion and Stan sort of agreed with me.



Stans Comment
[[another step- which they have already taken- is to keep a full
listing of your hardware and configuration. This is required as part
of the update process, which is no $$ at the moment for
a single user/ single system, but which will very likely
cost in the future.

I have been using RH for a long time and have been happy enough.
With these new policies (like updates for only 6 months
after each next major rev which means about 1 year) I'll
likely be shopping around for something less abusive.

If RH keeps at it they'll figure out how to make Microsoft look good.
But hey- when you own a market you do what you want.

Stan]]



Opinion is not a troll.
Not to become a troll on a troll subject, I will ignore any more
posting about being a troll.

Greg P Rozelle

To Hognoxious,
I am not a troll!

Well, that's to be decided.

Greg P Rozell

You ARE a top poster though, which is nearly as bad.