Recovering the booting Windows Vista beta 2

G

Guest

L. S.,

In a dual booting system the second drive has 2 partitions.
The last install is Vista on disk 2, 2' partition.
After a crash nothing was accessible. But was asked for a system drive.
So I first entered the XP operation cdrom, but that was not the good one.
After placing the Vista beta2 cd was asked for recovering. So I did. Vista
wil work, but the others not. By offering the XP cd rom is the questing to
repair which drive so I choose the C drive. The dual boot works but now is
Vista not accessible. In the boot ini of Windows XP is a warning that the
boot of Vista can be changed with bcdedit.exe.

Whats the name of that file, and what's the content. Is there anything else
to look for or is reinstalling nenecessary?

From XP dosn't matter which one the partition of Vista is seen.

From Vista both others are also seen.

What now?

Fr. gr. for any help,

W/B
 
B

Bruce Sanderson

bcdedit is a command line tool for changing the Vista boot settings; it
lives in %systemroot%\system32 of every Vista installation, but will not
correct your problem..

Use the file bootsect.exe that is in the folder called boot on the Vista
installation DVD.

These instructions should restore your Vista/XP dual boot environment - for
"x", use whatever letter your DVD reader happens to have.

1. boot to XP
2. put the Vista DVD in the DVD drive
3. open a Command Prompt
4. key the command x:
5. key the command cd x:\boot
6. key the command bootsect /nt60 sys


--
Bruce Sanderson (bsanders)
MVP Printing
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders
(e-mail address removed)

It is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.
 
G

Guest

Dear Bruce,

Your 6 points are followd, indeed Vista appeared, but instead of the 2'
choice: "older systems" there came "recovery console" for the XP's
C:.....;D:.....;E:..... E obviously does not work .

Next question: How replacing "recoveryconsole" in "older operation systems"
again appearing dual boot XP ; XP + recover console.
I hope my description is clear, for my language is in dutch.

Up to here my thanks,

W/B
 
G

Guest

Dear Paulchen,

Thanks for your replying, but it's too cryptical for me.
Can it be told how it works and what has to be done?
I'm just a simple user with a few knowhow.

Beforehands thanks,

W/B
 
B

Bruce Sanderson

It is not clear to me what your situation is. Unfortunately, my only
language is English!

Usually, "Recovery Console" items only appear in the boot menu if you have
specifically installed the Windows XP Recovery Console.

If your XP installation was damaged during or because of the "crash", it may
be necessary to re-install or repair the XP installation. If it is just the
boot environment that is damaged, if you supply the information requested
below, I may be able to give explicit instructions to fix it so you can boot
to Vista or XP.

1. in your reply, paste the content of the boot.ini file from the root of
the "System" partition (as identified in Computer Management, Disk
Management)
2. if you can boot to Vista, open a Command Prompt window ("elevated" - Run
as Administrator) and include the result of the following command in your
reply:

bcdedit -enum

3.
a. open a Command Prompt window (in Vista, open it "elevated" - Run as
Administrator)
b. type these commands

diskpart
list disk

c. for each Disk listed in the response to the "list disk" command, type the
commands

select disk n
list partition

d. for each Partition listed for each disk, type these commands and reply
with the results, and identify which partition(s) have Windows XP or Vista
installed in them

select partition n
detail partition

For example:
C:\Windows\system32>diskpart

Microsoft DiskPart version 6.0.6000
Copyright (C) 1999-2007 Microsoft Corporation.
On computer: V32RTMRETAIL

DISKPART> list disk

Disk ### Status Size Free Dyn Gpt
-------- ---------- ------- ------- --- ---
Disk 0 Online 112 GB 95 KB
Disk 1 Online 149 GB 158 KB
Disk 2 Online 149 GB 26 GB
Disk 3 No Media 0 B 0 B
Disk 4 No Media 0 B 0 B

DISKPART> select disk 0

Disk 0 is now the selected disk.

DISKPART> list partition

Partition ### Type Size Offset
------------- ---------------- ------- -------
Partition 1 Primary 15 GB 32 KB
Partition 2 Primary 49 GB 15 GB <-- Windows XP SP2
installed here
Partition 3 Primary 12 GB 63 GB <-- Windows Vista
installed here
Partition 0 Extended 37 GB 75 GB
Partition 4 Logical 12 GB 75 GB
Partition 5 Logical 12 GB 87 GB
Partition 6 Logical 13 GB 99 GB

DISKPART> select partition 1

Partition 1 is now the selected partition.

DISKPART> detail partition

Partition 1
Type : 07
Hidden: No
Active: Yes

Volume ### Ltr Label Fs Type Size Status Info
---------- --- ----------- ----- ---------- ------- --------- --------
* Volume 10 D D0P1System NTFS Partition 15 GB Healthy
System









--
Bruce Sanderson MVP Printing
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders

It is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.
 
G

Guest

Dear Bruce,

1- At this moment the dualboot of XP is present.
Everything went wrong.
Your first advise dd 11/13, brought me Vista back.

But a PCICard: VScom PCI 100 HV2port, doesn't work.
First installing was impossible, later the port was there even the Creativ
Modemblaster.
But both working: no.
At VScom found no drivers.

- Therefore I went back to XP by using the preinstalled recoveryconsole.
There arrived, so much was wrong that I had to reinstall XP.

! Later reading about Live OneCare, somewhere a declaration was present,
that Live OneCare backup XP and --Vista did not work together.
I know for sure that XP made backups and also Vista did with Live OneCare!

2- Not knowing all this, I earlier tried to get a backup of both.

A- Is there a way to work from XP to get in Vista?

B- Can Vista made an upgrade of XP by hoping that all installed drivers of
XP lead to the good drivers for Vista? My XP now is US-en.

C- How can I prevent that the backups of OneCare cause to conflict.

Last but not least, we speak of Vista tryout and reinstalling it, lead to
less loss of documentation and data, for me now, and is easyer I think.

Thanks sofar and waiting your remise,

Fr. gr.,

Willem/Boeti
 
B

Bruce Sanderson

Sorry, I know absolutely nothing about OneCare! I see there is a newsgroup
called microsoft.public.fr.windows.onecare that you might find useful,
although I see all the posts are in French (not surprising considering the
".fr" in the name).

For the PCI card(s) that are problematic, I suggest a seperate post with the
name of the card in the subject; someone else may have some information that
will help.

You could try an upgrade from XP to Vista; some Windows XP drivers work well
with Vista and some may not.

Not sure what you mean by your question "A". Each OS installation is
independent of the others.

I see there are several "microsoft.public.de.windows.vista" and
"microsoft.public.fr.windows.vista" newsgroups. You may find that you can
get better help in those by avoiding the "language barrier".

--
Bruce Sanderson MVP Printing
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders

It is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.
 
D

DCR

The drive or partition that you boot into will always be the C: drive.
2 disks
Disk 1: 2 Partitions XP on first partition, first partition is C: when you are in XP
Disk 2: 2 partitions Vista x86 on first partition, Vista x64 on second partition. In Vista x86,
first partition is C:, in Vista x64 second partition is C:
Using Disk Manager you can change the drive letters for the other drives/partitions but you cannot
change C:
Look at Windows Explorer in both XP and Vista and you will see that you have only ONE C: drive


| Dear Bruce,
|
| Thank you for your advice.
|
| After repair of Windows XP, I tried to upgrade with Vista. Hoping accepting
| the drivers installed. That went wrong, so I newly installed Vista after
| formatting.
|
| Strangely I have now two C:-drives.
|
| The original c: the bootsector with Windows XP and on the other drive the 2'
| partition, called E but by Vista seen as C, when started.
|
| But all is working, so closing the case.
|
| Fr. gr.,
|
|
| Willem/Boeti
|
|
|
| "Bruce Sanderson" wrote:
|
| > Sorry, I know absolutely nothing about OneCare! I see there is a newsgroup
| > called microsoft.public.fr.windows.onecare that you might find useful,
| > although I see all the posts are in French (not surprising considering the
| > ".fr" in the name).
| >
| > For the PCI card(s) that are problematic, I suggest a seperate post with the
| > name of the card in the subject; someone else may have some information that
| > will help.
| >
| > You could try an upgrade from XP to Vista; some Windows XP drivers work well
| > with Vista and some may not.
| >
| > Not sure what you mean by your question "A". Each OS installation is
| > independent of the others.
| >
| > I see there are several "microsoft.public.de.windows.vista" and
| > "microsoft.public.fr.windows.vista" newsgroups. You may find that you can
| > get better help in those by avoiding the "language barrier".
| >
| > --
| > Bruce Sanderson MVP Printing
| > http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders
| >
| > It is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.
| >
| >
| >
| > | > > Dear Bruce,
| > >
| > > 1- At this moment the dualboot of XP is present.
| > > Everything went wrong.
| > > Your first advise dd 11/13, brought me Vista back.
| > >
| > > But a PCICard: VScom PCI 100 HV2port, doesn't work.
| > > First installing was impossible, later the port was there even the Creativ
| > > Modemblaster.
| > > But both working: no.
| > > At VScom found no drivers.
| > >
| > > - Therefore I went back to XP by using the preinstalled recoveryconsole.
| > > There arrived, so much was wrong that I had to reinstall XP.
| > >
| > > ! Later reading about Live OneCare, somewhere a declaration was present,
| > > that Live OneCare backup XP and --Vista did not work together.
| > > I know for sure that XP made backups and also Vista did with Live OneCare!
| > >
| > > 2- Not knowing all this, I earlier tried to get a backup of both.
| > >
| > > A- Is there a way to work from XP to get in Vista?
| > >
| > > B- Can Vista made an upgrade of XP by hoping that all installed drivers of
| > > XP lead to the good drivers for Vista? My XP now is US-en.
| > >
| > > C- How can I prevent that the backups of OneCare cause to conflict.
| > >
| > > Last but not least, we speak of Vista tryout and reinstalling it, lead to
| > > less loss of documentation and data, for me now, and is easyer I think.
| > >
| > > Thanks sofar and waiting your remise,
| > >
| > > Fr. gr.,
| > >
| > > Willem/Boeti
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > > "Bruce Sanderson" wrote:
| > >
| > >> It is not clear to me what your situation is. Unfortunately, my only
| > >> language is English!
| > >>
| > >> Usually, "Recovery Console" items only appear in the boot menu if you
| > >> have
| > >> specifically installed the Windows XP Recovery Console.
| > >>
| > >> If your XP installation was damaged during or because of the "crash", it
| > >> may
| > >> be necessary to re-install or repair the XP installation. If it is just
| > >> the
| > >> boot environment that is damaged, if you supply the information requested
| > >> below, I may be able to give explicit instructions to fix it so you can
| > >> boot
| > >> to Vista or XP.
| > >>
| > >> 1. in your reply, paste the content of the boot.ini file from the root of
| > >> the "System" partition (as identified in Computer Management, Disk
| > >> Management)
| > >> 2. if you can boot to Vista, open a Command Prompt window ("elevated" -
| > >> Run
| > >> as Administrator) and include the result of the following command in your
| > >> reply:
| > >>
| > >> bcdedit -enum
| > >>
| > >> 3.
| > >> a. open a Command Prompt window (in Vista, open it "elevated" - Run as
| > >> Administrator)
| > >> b. type these commands
| > >>
| > >> diskpart
| > >> list disk
| > >>
| > >> c. for each Disk listed in the response to the "list disk" command, type
| > >> the
| > >> commands
| > >>
| > >> select disk n
| > >> list partition
| > >>
| > >> d. for each Partition listed for each disk, type these commands and reply
| > >> with the results, and identify which partition(s) have Windows XP or
| > >> Vista
| > >> installed in them
| > >>
| > >> select partition n
| > >> detail partition
| > >>
| > >> For example:
| > >> C:\Windows\system32>diskpart
| > >>
| > >> Microsoft DiskPart version 6.0.6000
| > >> Copyright (C) 1999-2007 Microsoft Corporation.
| > >> On computer: V32RTMRETAIL
| > >>
| > >> DISKPART> list disk
| > >>
| > >> Disk ### Status Size Free Dyn Gpt
| > >> -------- ---------- ------- ------- --- ---
| > >> Disk 0 Online 112 GB 95 KB
| > >> Disk 1 Online 149 GB 158 KB
| > >> Disk 2 Online 149 GB 26 GB
| > >> Disk 3 No Media 0 B 0 B
| > >> Disk 4 No Media 0 B 0 B
| > >>
| > >> DISKPART> select disk 0
| > >>
| > >> Disk 0 is now the selected disk.
| > >>
| > >> DISKPART> list partition
| > >>
| > >> Partition ### Type Size Offset
| > >> ------------- ---------------- ------- -------
| > >> Partition 1 Primary 15 GB 32 KB
| > >> Partition 2 Primary 49 GB 15 GB <-- Windows XP SP2
| > >> installed here
| > >> Partition 3 Primary 12 GB 63 GB <-- Windows Vista
| > >> installed here
| > >> Partition 0 Extended 37 GB 75 GB
| > >> Partition 4 Logical 12 GB 75 GB
| > >> Partition 5 Logical 12 GB 87 GB
| > >> Partition 6 Logical 13 GB 99 GB
| > >>
| > >> DISKPART> select partition 1
| > >>
| > >> Partition 1 is now the selected partition.
| > >>
| > >> DISKPART> detail partition
| > >>
| > >> Partition 1
| > >> Type : 07
| > >> Hidden: No
| > >> Active: Yes
| > >>
| > >> Volume ### Ltr Label Fs Type Size Status
| > >> Info
| > >> ---------- --- ----------- ----- ---------- ------- --------- --------
| > >> * Volume 10 D D0P1System NTFS Partition 15 GB Healthy
| > >> System
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| > >> --
| > >> Bruce Sanderson MVP Printing
| > >> http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders
| > >>
| > >> It is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| > >> | > >> > Dear Bruce,
| > >> >
| > >> > Your 6 points are followd, indeed Vista appeared, but instead of the 2'
| > >> > choice: "older systems" there came "recovery console" for the XP's
| > >> > C:.....;D:.....;E:..... E obviously does not work .
| > >> >
| > >> > Next question: How replacing "recoveryconsole" in "older operation
| > >> > systems"
| > >> > again appearing dual boot XP ; XP + recover console.
| > >> > I hope my description is clear, for my language is in dutch.
| > >> >
| > >> > Up to here my thanks,
| > >> >
| > >> > W/B
| > >> >
| > >> > "Bruce Sanderson" wrote:
| > >> >
| > >> >> bcdedit is a command line tool for changing the Vista boot settings;
| > >> >> it
| > >> >> lives in %systemroot%\system32 of every Vista installation, but will
| > >> >> not
| > >> >> correct your problem..
| > >> >>
| > >> >> Use the file bootsect.exe that is in the folder called boot on the
| > >> >> Vista
| > >> >> installation DVD.
| > >> >>
| > >> >> These instructions should restore your Vista/XP dual boot
| > >> >> environment -
| > >> >> for
| > >> >> "x", use whatever letter your DVD reader happens to have.
| > >> >>
| > >> >> 1. boot to XP
| > >> >> 2. put the Vista DVD in the DVD drive
| > >> >> 3. open a Command Prompt
| > >> >> 4. key the command x:
| > >> >> 5. key the command cd x:\boot
| > >> >> 6. key the command bootsect /nt60 sys
| > >> >>
| > >> >>
| > >> >> --
| > >> >> Bruce Sanderson (bsanders)
| > >> >> MVP Printing
| > >> >> http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders
| > >> >> (e-mail address removed)
| > >> >>
| > >> >> It is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong
| > >> >> question.
| > >> >>
| > >> >>
| > >> >>
| > >> >>
| > >> >> message
| > >> >> | > >> >> > L. S.,
| > >> >> >
| > >> >> > In a dual booting system the second drive has 2 partitions.
| > >> >> > The last install is Vista on disk 2, 2' partition.
| > >> >> > After a crash nothing was accessible. But was asked for a system
| > >> >> > drive.
| > >> >> > So I first entered the XP operation cdrom, but that was not the
| > >> >> > good
| > >> >> > one.
| > >> >> > After placing the Vista beta2 cd was asked for recovering. So I did.
| > >> >> > Vista
| > >> >> > wil work, but the others not. By offering the XP cd rom is the
| > >> >> > questing
| > >> >> > to
| > >> >> > repair which drive so I choose the C drive. The dual boot works but
| > >> >> > now
| > >> >> > is
| > >> >> > Vista not accessible. In the boot ini of Windows XP is a warning
| > >> >> > that
| > >> >> > the
| > >> >> > boot of Vista can be changed with bcdedit.exe.
| > >> >> >
| > >> >> > Whats the name of that file, and what's the content. Is there
| > >> >> > anything
| > >> >> > else
| > >> >> > to look for or is reinstalling nenecessary?
| > >> >> >
| > >> >> > From XP dosn't matter which one the partition of Vista is seen.
| > >> >> >
| > >> >> > From Vista both others are also seen.
| > >> >> >
| > >> >> > What now?
| > >> >> >
| > >> >> > Fr. gr. for any help,
| > >> >> >
| > >> >> > W/B
| > >> >> >
| > >> >> >
| > >> >>
| > >> >>
| > >>
| >
 
B

Bruce Sanderson

The most important thing to remember about drive leters is that they are
ephemeral.

The hardware and the computer's BIOS do not have the concept of drive letter
at all. This concept is only in the operating system software. So, what
drive letter is assigned to which partition is entirely a matter of whatever
instance of whatever OS you happen to be running at the time. The
association between drive letter and partition only exists when a particular
OS instance is actually running.

As stated elsewhere, except for the "system" and "boot" partition, one can
change the drive letter to partition assignment by using Computer
Management, Disk Management.
 

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