Reconciling the worlds of Excel and Access

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Here's a question for anybody who has the time and interest:

I'm doing a little application to track my time on projects.

Now, Excel is fantastic for doing a monthly "timesheet." Like this:

1 2 3 ... 31
T1
T2
T3
...
Tn

Across the top the 31 days of the month, down the rows each task you might
work on. Put the number of hours you worked in the cells.

It gives you a complete overview of the whole month, shows you immediately
what the totals are, allows you to adjust, etc. It's perfect.

Where Excel begins to break down, of course, is when you want to start doing
queries on time spent on a single task over many months, and so on and so
forth. You begin to have to start bending over backwards in Excel to do
things that are straightforward in Access.

And so I want to have it in Access. Simple table:

Task, Hours, Date

(plus the other tables necessary to make it all work)

But I no longer have the great presentation that Excel gives me for data
entry, and even the presentation is no longer Excel-like.

Ideally I'd like to have both the conceptual world of Excel, for data entry,
and the conceptual world of Access for querying and the rest.

Now, I suppose one solution could be to do the entry in Excel and then
import into Access. Certainly that's an option, although even that could get
awkward.

But I have a suspicion that a REAL expert in Access, who really knows how to
make and use Forms and Reports, could come pretty close to giving me my
"Excel conceptual world" for entry and presentation. I'd be interested in
knowing whether this suspicion is correct and where I might direct my
studies of Forms and Reports to attack the problem early.

In any case, I'd be interested in comments!

Thanks,

John
 
JMF said:
Here's a question for anybody who has the time and interest:

I'm doing a little application to track my time on projects.

Now, Excel is fantastic for doing a monthly "timesheet." Like this:

1 2 3 ... 31
T1
T2
T3
...
Tn

Across the top the 31 days of the month, down the rows each task you might
work on. Put the number of hours you worked in the cells.

It gives you a complete overview of the whole month, shows you immediately
what the totals are, allows you to adjust, etc. It's perfect.

Where Excel begins to break down, of course, is when you want to start doing
queries on time spent on a single task over many months, and so on and so
forth. You begin to have to start bending over backwards in Excel to do
things that are straightforward in Access.

And so I want to have it in Access. Simple table:

Task, Hours, Date

(plus the other tables necessary to make it all work)

But I no longer have the great presentation that Excel gives me for data
entry, and even the presentation is no longer Excel-like.

Ideally I'd like to have both the conceptual world of Excel, for data entry,
and the conceptual world of Access for querying and the rest.

Now, I suppose one solution could be to do the entry in Excel and then
import into Access. Certainly that's an option, although even that could get
awkward.

But I have a suspicion that a REAL expert in Access, who really knows how to
make and use Forms and Reports, could come pretty close to giving me my
"Excel conceptual world" for entry and presentation. I'd be interested in
knowing whether this suspicion is correct and where I might direct my
studies of Forms and Reports to attack the problem early.

In any case, I'd be interested in comments!

Thanks,

John
You might want to consider a time tracking program. At one time I thought
I was going to need something to track time spent on different projects.
By googling time tracking software I managed to find several different
programs some as inexpensive as $29US. Depending on how valuable your time
is you may be better off buying something off the shelf.

gls858
 
gls858 said:
You might want to consider a time tracking program. At one time I thought
I was going to need something to track time spent on different projects.
By googling time tracking software I managed to find several different
programs some as inexpensive as $29US. Depending on how valuable your time
is you may be better off buying something off the shelf.

Good idea! I'll take a look.

Thanks,

John
 
JMF said:
Good idea! I'll take a look.

Thanks,

John
After searching a bit I found the one that I tested. Quite complete
lots of reporting 30 day free trial:
http://www.productive-tools.com/html/timetool.htm

It's a fairly large download 45 meg. But it did everything I
needed including creating invoices by customer or project and
tracking time by person on each project. In fact, I think it's
Access based, but I don't know for sure. I found an entry in
my registry that said TimeTool Access Database.

Standard disclaimer: I'm in no way associated with or receive
compensation from yada yada

gls858
 
gls858 said:
After searching a bit I found the one that I tested. Quite complete
lots of reporting 30 day free trial:
http://www.productive-tools.com/html/timetool.htm

It's a fairly large download 45 meg. But it did everything I
needed including creating invoices by customer or project and
tracking time by person on each project. In fact, I think it's
Access based, but I don't know for sure. I found an entry in
my registry that said TimeTool Access Database.

Standard disclaimer: I'm in no way associated with or receive
compensation from yada yada

gls858

Looks very good! Thanks, I'll give it a try.

John
 
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