Reactivate Windows???

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Professor said:
"Since Windows was first activated on this computer, the hardware on the
computer has changed significantly. Due to these changes, Windows must be
reactivated within 3 days.
Do you want to reactivate Windows now?"

Well, naturally, I clicked NO. However, this insidious message kept
recurring. I have
even been threatened to have Windows inoperable if I don't "reactivate"
within the
3-day time limit.

I eventually tried to cooperate with "big brother". However, for some reason
known
only to my computer, this script cannot connect to the internet (even though
I
have no trouble doing it myself). I then tried the phone connection, only to
receive
a busy signal every time I try it.
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Do not try from that initial message. Cancel that, then be connected to
the Internet and go to
Start - All Programs - Accessories - System Tools - Activate Windows
Use Activate on the Internet now and it should go through

The condition BTW may be brought on by disabling a device (especially a
NIC that counts extra) and rebooting with it disabled. This loses all
the votes from the device that things are as they were - permanently,
until you activate again with it present.
 
Apparently, _Professor_, on 09/02/05 04:11,typed:
position in the first place? I haven't done anything illegal, or even
immoral! Yet I am being threatened with losing everything on my computer.
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er ... ahem ... morals usually have nothing to do with the working of a
corporation. sigh!

However, I do understand your predicament. Hope you get your problem
resolved soon. It really is odd you cannot get them over the telephone
though. What number are you trying, just out of curosity?

Sam.
 
Apparently, _Alias_, on 09/02/05 05:57,typed:
What's worse it that the activation scam/folly doesn't impact the crackers
at all. It only affects users such as you and me that PAY for the product.
It makes you wonder if MS cares about their paying customers.
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Many people have argued that MS doesn't really crack down on crackers
because crackers are free adertisement, huge advertisement, for them and
make Windows so prevelant. However, recently somebody in the management
cadres of MS thought up the idea that they stand to gain something now
by forcing everyone to get a valid licence (due to all this
'competition' from others OS's, or so the story goes), so they started
that what's-it-name program to block updates to invalid copies of
Windows. Basically, they don't mind crackers as long as they serve their
purpose. But this is what the people at my univ usually think. My views?
There may be some truth in it but I am not sure.
 
Apparently, _Alex Nichol_, on 09/02/05 09:18,typed:
Professor wrote:




Do not try from that initial message. Cancel that, then be connected to
the Internet and go to
Start - All Programs - Accessories - System Tools - Activate Windows
Use Activate on the Internet now and it should go through

The condition BTW may be brought on by disabling a device (especially a
NIC that counts extra) and rebooting with it disabled. This loses all
the votes from the device that things are as they were - permanently,
until you activate again with it present.
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This really sucks. Even as I write this, I am contemplating replacing my
Realtek NIC since it's socket for the CAT5 has kind of become loose and
I loose connection if the cable is moved even slightly. So given your
comments above, I sould expect I should have go through the same grind.
Not pleasant at all :(

BTW, do your comments still hold if I "remove hardware" the NIC first.
Power down, replace the nic. Then power up and "add hardware" if it is
not already detected?

Sam.
 
Sam said:
Apparently, _Alex Nichol_, on 09/02/05 09:18,typed:


This really sucks. Even as I write this, I am contemplating replacing my
Realtek NIC since it's socket for the CAT5 has kind of become loose and I
loose connection if the cable is moved even slightly. So given your
comments above, I sould expect I should have go through the same grind.
Not pleasant at all :(

BTW, do your comments still hold if I "remove hardware" the NIC first.
Power down, replace the nic. Then power up and "add hardware" if it is not
already detected?

Sam.
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If, when you say NIC, you mean the ether card, I just replaced my onboard
ether card with a new one and no problems at all, no reactivation, no
nothing.
 
Apparently, _Alias_, on 09/02/05 11:43,typed:
If, when you say NIC, you mean the ether card, I just replaced my onboard
ether card with a new one and no problems at all, no reactivation, no
nothing.
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Yes, I meant ether card (a 10/100 MBps NIC: Network Interface Card).

Cool, this is encouraging. Thanks.

Sam.
 
Sam said:
Apparently, _Alias_, on 09/02/05 11:43,typed:



Yes, I meant ether card (a 10/100 MBps NIC: Network Interface Card).

Cool, this is encouraging. Thanks.
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The problem with PA is that it doesn't seem to be consistent. One
person can have one eXPerience, while another can have another.

Hope everything goes smoothly for you.

--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
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"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
 
Alias said:
If, when you say NIC, you mean the ether card, I just replaced my onboard
ether card with a new one and no problems at all, no reactivation, no
nothing.
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"NIC" = Network Interface Card. Standard term.

Steve
 
Losing the CD and DVD drives in your hardware configuration was most
likely the "Windows Activation" trigger - as many hardware component IDs are
using to create the Windows Activation hash, the most important is
"motherboard", but the 1st 7 important ones are used, your NIC is another,
including CPU, DVD, CD, Video, Modem and Sound Cards are all others, and if
an OEM XP your BIOS plays into the hash, especially if the PC is
hardware/BIOS locked and you've lost or replaced the CD/DVD and upgraded the
BIOS - been there done that.
If your PC can't activate by internet, then choose the phone option, you
are then given the chance to "phonetically" speak into the phone the
50-digit hash code, if the MS activation center computer is happy, it will
give you a 50-digit activation code back, if not, you'll be able to stay on
the line to speak with a representative - explain your situation, but stick
strictly to activation (but remember he/she didn't cause your problem, but
they can solve the problem by giving you an activation code) - you need not
give name, phone, address, or any other personal info - just the 25-digit
Product Key, the 50-digit hardware hash and in return you get the 50-digit
activation key.
I go through this about every 3-6 months on one my Dell's - the XP Pro
is BIOS/Hardware locked, Dell has released 2 BIOS upgrades, and I've upgrade
the CPU, memory and replace the DVD and CD drives with newer better DVD-+RW
and CD-RWs - so I feel your pain.

--
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"Google is your Friend!"
www.google.com

***********************************************
 
Al said:
Product Activation is wasting millions of man-hours around the world,
and Microsoft executives don't give a damn. Why? Because it isn't
costing Microsoft a cent. They are making money when their poor
customers get frustrated and frightened into buying new copies of
Windows that they don't really need. Does Gates care if some woman in
Peoria wastes twenty hours of her time because her computer is down
because Windows isn't working on her computer because of Product
Activation? Does he care if she gives up on her OEM version and goes out
and buys a retail version of Windows?

Until Microsoft is held legally accountable for the hours of their
customers' work time that they waste, there's no incentive for Microsoft
to change its ways.
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I'd put it more like this way:

Until MS is legally held economically accountable for the hours of their
customers' work, time and money that they waste, there's no incentive
for Microsoft to change its ways.

As you point out, it is currently in MS' best economic interest to focus
efforts on technologically enhancing the security of their income. Doing
so at the expence of the end user (and IT support staff, might I add),
while appearing to be very profitable in the short term, my opinion is
that such practices will eventually back-fire on the company. People
(especially many IT people, who most end users initially seek advice
from) are looking elsewhere.

Just because something is possible to do doesn't mean it's a good thing
to do.

In reality, we are all just "subscribers" to Microsoft Windows. We have
been since the 80s.

Steve
 
Alias said:
What's worse it that the activation scam/folly doesn't impact the
crackers at all. It only affects users such as you and me that PAY
for the product. It makes you wonder if MS cares about their paying
customers.
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I recently upgraded to a 64 bit mb and processor.
Did a repair install of XP Pro.
Would not activate, popped up a toll free number. Called, took me all of
about 1 minute to get it activated.
 
kurttrail said:
Glad you finally got activated, after all the frustration. The best
way to get back at them is to remember this eXPerience when MS tries
to sell you a new PA-disabled product. Don't buy it.
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Practice what you preach. OR are you saying, don't buy it, steal it??

Once a thief, always a thief.
 
Don said:
I recently upgraded to a 64 bit mb and processor.
Did a repair install of XP Pro.
Would not activate, popped up a toll free number. Called, took me all
of about 1 minute to get it activated.
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And people that get licensing check errors have to reinstall the OS.

"It worked for me" is completely callous attitude.

--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
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http://microscum.com
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
 
Don said:
Practice what you preach. OR are you saying, don't buy it, steal it??
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I haven't bought a MS product since Office XP.
Once a thief, always a thief.
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Once a MicroMoron, always a MicroMoron

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Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
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http://microscum.com
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
 
Kelly said:
Better than the folks here calling me: Maw Gates! :o(
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And you aren't a MicroMoron. You are a great help to many people, and
do it with a sense of humor, and although I still think your website is
hard to navigate, I haven't seen a web site with as much info as you
have that isn't.

For what it's worth [and I know there are some that think it ain't worth
nothin'], you are "The Bomb" in my book! :)

--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
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http://microscum.com
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
 

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