Re-partitioning system drive without having to rebuild?

P

(PeteCresswell)

New PC.

40-gig "C" drive.

System + Apps < 10 gigs.

I'd like to re-partition the device so there's 30 gigs for "C"
and 10 or whatever's left over for a "D" drive.

Seems like last time I tried this by making an image,
re-partitioning, and then trying to restore the image, the image
utility didn't buy it bco the size discrepancy.

Dunno if re-partitioning it "as-is" is possible, but it sounds
like a bad idea.


Anybody have a suggestion?
 
J

JS

40GB drive is not very large, either buy a larger drive to replace it or add
the larger drive as a second drive.

JS
 
P

(PeteCresswell)

Per "JS said:
40GB drive is not very large, either buy a larger drive to replace it or add
the larger drive as a second drive.

My usual practice is to keep the system and installed apps on one
device and data/work on one or more other devices.

But whether I re-partition the 40-gigger or replace it, the same
question remains: how to do it without having to rebuild the sys
from scratch.
 
J

JS

Although you had a bad experience with image backup software in the past
(don't know what software you used) these are two popular packages.

Norton Ghost
http://www.symantec.com/home_homeoffice/products/overview.jsp?pcid=br&pvid=ghost10

True Image (has a 15 day trial version also)
http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/

Also some Disk Diagnostic Utilities also provide software to copy XP from
the old drive to the new although I have not tried this approach the links
are provided below:
Western Digital's Data LifeGuard Diagnostics
http://support.wdc.com/download/?cxml=n&pid=999&swid=3

Seagate's SeaTools
http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/support/downloads/seatools

Maxtor's (Now Seagate) PowerMax
http://www.seagate.com/maxtor/

Fujitsu's Utilities
http://www.fujitsu.com/us/services/computing/storage/hdd/support/utilities.html

Samsung's Disk manager software
http://www.samsung.com/Products/HardDiskDrive/utilities/shdiag.htm

Hitachi's Drive Fitness Test software
http://www.hgst.com/hdd/support/download.htm#DFT

JS
 
P

(PeteCresswell)

Per "JS said:
Although you had a bad experience with image backup software in the past
(don't know what software you used) these are two popular packages.

Is that to say that you'd expect them to create an image of a
40-gig system disc where 10 gigs are actually used and restore
that image to a 30-gig partition?

If so, maybe I'm suffering from RCI and mis-remembering
something.... and maybe I should try it again....
 
J

JS

Yes, there should be an option (during the restore process) to restore the
image to a partition that you created on the new drive in advance of the
actual restore. This way you restore to a partition (A primary partition)
that already exist on the new drive and is not necessarily the same size.
The restore process should also offer you the option to make it an active
and boot partition.

In my case I formatted my new drive as a slave and then restored the image
to the new larger drive, during the restoration process I chose options to
"use the new drive as the destination partition", "to use the existing
larger (in other words - not to resize the partition back to the size of the
old drive) partition size it found on the new drive", "make it the active
partition" and most importantly "not to use any of the old drive's
signature/parameter information". After the image was restored to the new
drive, I powered down the PC, removed the old drive and changed the drive
jumper on the new drive to a master or single, removed the old drive and
booted.

Note that I created the image of the C: (Windows partition) on the second
partition of the old drive before I started the process.

JS
 
L

Lil' Dave

(PeteCresswell) said:
New PC.

40-gig "C" drive.

System + Apps < 10 gigs.

I'd like to re-partition the device so there's 30 gigs for "C"
and 10 or whatever's left over for a "D" drive.

Seems like last time I tried this by making an image,
re-partitioning, and then trying to restore the image, the image
utility didn't buy it bco the size discrepancy.

Dunno if re-partitioning it "as-is" is possible, but it sounds
like a bad idea.


Anybody have a suggestion?

Read the thread, that is JS's replies, prior to my reply.
Imaging software restorations re-creates the original partition, the file
system including security modifications, and folders and files. Some allow
restoration of original master boot record and drive signature as an option.
Image restorations are made to unused space on a hard drive, not to a
previously made partition. Some will allow restorations for creating a
larger partition (all remaining space on larger hard drive for instance),
but not a smaller partition.

You need 3rd party partitioning software to shrink the original partition to
use the current hard drive, and have remaining space for another partition.

When simply moving to a larger capacity hard drive, you can use the original
hard drive signature if you remove the original drive. That is, in the case
of an image restore. In fact, its preferrable if it contains the original
XP installation you intend to use. In such a case, I leave out the original
hard drive for up to month to be sure the larger hard drive is kosher, and
everything works. Afterwards, I reinsert the original hard drive as slave
or secondary master or slave, not allowing the new XP on the new hard drive
to see it. Immediately using bootable media, I then write zeroes to the old
hard drive. At that point, its ready for XP.

You can restore the original MBR if you don't change the partition size.
Mandatory if you use a 3rd party boot manager that resides in the MBR region
of the hard drive.
Dave
 
P

Phisherman

New PC.

40-gig "C" drive.

System + Apps < 10 gigs.

I'd like to re-partition the device so there's 30 gigs for "C"
and 10 or whatever's left over for a "D" drive.

Seems like last time I tried this by making an image,
re-partitioning, and then trying to restore the image, the image
utility didn't buy it bco the size discrepancy.

Dunno if re-partitioning it "as-is" is possible, but it sounds
like a bad idea.


Anybody have a suggestion?


Partition Magic
 
R

RMD

New PC.

40-gig "C" drive.

System + Apps < 10 gigs.

I'd like to re-partition the device so there's 30 gigs for "C"
and 10 or whatever's left over for a "D" drive.

Seems like last time I tried this by making an image,
re-partitioning, and then trying to restore the image, the image
utility didn't buy it bco the size discrepancy.

Dunno if re-partitioning it "as-is" is possible, but it sounds
like a bad idea.


Anybody have a suggestion?

Peter,

I do it using the boot disc from Acronis True Image. Never had any
trouble "auto-magically" changing the C-drive size up or down.

If the drive is new there ought not be stuff like sector errors to
screw things up.

Download the trial version of True Image and create the boot disc. It
will cost you nothing to try.

Ross
 
P

(PeteCresswell)

Per "JS said:
Yes, there should be an option (during the restore process) to restore the
image to a partition that you created on the new drive in advance of the
actual restore.

Sounds like what I'm looking for.

What product are you using?
 

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