Partitioning New Drive?

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BobK

Hello,

I just replaced my boot drive with a larger Seagate ATA 320 Gig 16 MB
cache on a five year old computer. I used Seagate Tools to copy my old
boot drive to my new drive and all went well. I can now boot from the
new drive.

My Computer shows 388 Gigs of Free Space with WinXP Pro SP2 taking up
10 Gigs for a total of 298 Gigs. Disk Manager shows one large
partition in healthy condition.

I would like to partition the drive to have a second partition at the
end. Essentially I want to divide the drive in half so I have a C and
D drive. My old drive has a drive D that has all my programs on it and
I want to copy that onto a new partition on the new drive.

However, when I run the partitioning program from Seagate Tools, it
says that there is no free space. Does anyone know what I should do to
get a partition going on the new drive?

Thanks,

Bob
 
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Big Al

BobK said:
Hello,

I just replaced my boot drive with a larger Seagate ATA 320 Gig 16 MB
cache on a five year old computer. I used Seagate Tools to copy my old
boot drive to my new drive and all went well. I can now boot from the
new drive.

My Computer shows 388 Gigs of Free Space with WinXP Pro SP2 taking up
10 Gigs for a total of 298 Gigs. Disk Manager shows one large
partition in healthy condition.

I would like to partition the drive to have a second partition at the
end. Essentially I want to divide the drive in half so I have a C and
D drive. My old drive has a drive D that has all my programs on it and
I want to copy that onto a new partition on the new drive.

However, when I run the partitioning program from Seagate Tools, it
says that there is no free space. Does anyone know what I should do to
get a partition going on the new drive?

Thanks,

Bob
Partion magic will do the job in place. Do it now while you still have
the old system in case things go haywire.
Acronis True Image will also image a drive and allow you to move to
another drive and at the same time partition, and if it does not, it
will at least allow you to use a pre-partitioned drive as is.
150meg/150meg.

I bought a 100 meg drive for my laptop and partitioned it 90/10.
 
S

sgopus

Your tools require the drive to unallocated space to create partitions, this
is not good, other tools will allow you to create partitions without being
destructive to your operating system, ie Partition magic and or Acronis TI
 
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DL

Theres no point in copying your Programs to anywhere; They still wont work
You need to reinstall them all
Or You should have imaged the entire old hd to the new hd
 
B

BobK

Theres no point in copying your Programs to anywhere; They still
wont work
You need to reinstall them all
Or You should have imaged the entire old hd to the new hd

I am not sure that is correct. The Seagate Tools only permits working
with one partition at a time. The original drive is partitioned into
two drives (C & D). The programs were on a D drive and I am trying put
them in the same spot on the new drive.

I reformatted the new drive and created two partitions. However, when
I copied the boot partition it seems to have removed the second
partition. I am not sure why it did that. Does anyone know what might
have gone wrong? I want to retain two partitions on the new drive with
C being the boot drive and D being all my programs.

Thanks,

Bob
 
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smlunatick

I am not sure that is correct. The Seagate Tools only permits working
with one partition at a time. The original drive is partitioned into
two drives (C & D). The programs were on a D drive and I am trying put
them in the same spot on the new drive.

I reformatted the new drive and created two partitions. However, when
I copied the boot partition it seems to have removed the second
partition. I am not sure why it did that. Does anyone know what might
have gone wrong? I want to retain two partitions on the new drive with
C being the boot drive and D being all my programs.

Thanks,

Bob






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Copying from the older boot drive, the Seagate tools would be
"duplicating" the old partition(s) from the old drive and replace the
partition(s) on new drive.
 
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BobK

I am not sure that is correct. The Seagate Tools only permits
working
with one partition at a time. The original drive is partitioned into
two drives (C & D). The programs were on a D drive and I am trying
put
them in the same spot on the new drive.

I reformatted the new drive and created two partitions. However,
when
I copied the boot partition it seems to have removed the second
partition. I am not sure why it did that. Does anyone know what
might
have gone wrong? I want to retain two partitions on the new drive
with
C being the boot drive and D being all my programs.

Thanks,

Bob






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Copying from the older boot drive, the Seagate tools would be
"duplicating" the old partition(s) from the old drive and replace the
partition(s) on new drive.



Seagate Tools seems to have a separate selection for copying the boot
drive. You have to select the whole new drive as the target. When
using the boot drive copy, it seems to ignore the second partition on
the old drive and places the old boot drive on a single partition
occupying the whole new drive. So it seems to remove my second
partition when creating the boot drive.

I am probably doing something wrong but I am not sure what. Any ideas?

Thanks,

Bob
 
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smlunatick

Copying from the older boot drive, the Seagate tools would be
"duplicating" the old partition(s) from the old drive and replace the
partition(s) on new drive.

Seagate Tools seems to have a separate selection for copying the boot
drive. You have to select the whole new drive as the target. When
using the boot drive copy, it seems to ignore the second partition on
the old drive and places the old boot drive on a single partition
occupying the whole new drive. So it seems to remove my second
partition when creating the boot drive.

I am probably doing something wrong but I am not sure what. Any ideas?

Thanks,

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Part of the copy will replace the partitioning table. If the older
drive has only one partition, then the newer drive will also only have
one.

If the older drive have two paritition then you must look at the
Seagate tools so as to make sure it also does every partitions (this
is not usually set in Partition Magic.)

You may want to use a different clone utility and here is a free one:

http://www.pcinspector.de/Sites/clone_maxx/info.htm?language=1
 
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DL

Acronis True Image has a fully functioning trial available on their site,
with this you could clone the entire hd (both partitions)
However there is no advantage to installing Apps to a seperate partition.
Installing these apps will still dump files on the C drive & if you have to
format your win drive you will still have to reinstall the apps
You are merely adding an unneccessary complication
 
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Anna

I am not sure that is correct. The Seagate Tools only permits working with
one partition at a time. The original drive is partitioned into two drives
(C & D). The programs were on a D drive and I am trying put them in the
same spot on the new drive.

I reformatted the new drive and created two partitions. However, when I
copied the boot partition it seems to have removed the second partition. I
am not sure why it did that. Does anyone know what might have gone wrong?
I want to retain two partitions on the new drive with C being the boot
drive and D being all my programs.

Thanks,

Bob

Copying from the older boot drive, the Seagate tools would be
"duplicating" the old partition(s) from the old drive and replace the
partition(s) on new drive.



Seagate Tools seems to have a separate selection for copying the boot
drive. You have to select the whole new drive as the target. When using
the boot drive copy, it seems to ignore the second partition on the old
drive and places the old boot drive on a single partition occupying the
whole new drive. So it seems to remove my second partition when creating
the boot drive.

I am probably doing something wrong but I am not sure what. Any ideas?

Thanks,

Bob


Bob:
I'm assuming that what you want to do is clone the contents of your old
HDD - it has two partitions - to a new larger HDD - so that the new HDD will
similarly contain two partitions. And that your old HDD is a *single* HDD
containing the two partitions.

Ordinarily (since you're using a Seagate HDD) one should use the Seagate
DiscWizard (freely available from their web site) to accomplish this. If
memory serves me correctly the Seagate disk copying utility is a derivative
of the Acronis True Image disk-cloning program. To the best of my knowledge
it does not have the capability of cloning the contents of one HDD to
another HDD on a partition-to-partition basis - rather, it's a
"disk-to-disk" cloning process. Again, if I recall correctly, the DiscWizard
will create the two partitions on the "destination" HDD, however it will be
on a percentage basis dependent upon the percentage of disk space used on
the "source" HDD.

So - in your case - assuming for example that your "source" HDD was an 80 GB
HDD and your C: partition was (approx) 40 GB and your D: partition was
(approx) 40 GB (you apparently have indicated that you prefer a 50 - 50
split) - the DiscWizard will similarly divide your 320 GB "destination" HDD
(actually about 298 GB in binary terms) so that the C: partition will be 149
GB (approx) and the D: partition will be 149 GB (approx). Presumably this is
acceptable to you.

Again, I believe I'm correct in describing how the Seagate DiscWizard
performs in situations such as yours but I haven't worked with the program
in some time. So if I'm incorrect re the above, I trust some current user
will correct me.

BTW, their are third-party disk-cloning programs that perform the
disk-cloning operations on a partition-to-partition basis so you may want to
consider using one of them in the future for routine disk-cloning operations
in connection with establishing & maintaining a comprehensive backup program
that can be used on a routine basis. The particular program that we
recommend is the Casper 4 program (http://www.fssdev.com).
Anna
 
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BobK

I am not sure that is correct. The Seagate Tools only permits
Copying from the older boot drive, the Seagate tools would be
"duplicating" the old partition(s) from the old drive and replace
the
partition(s) on new drive.

Seagate Tools seems to have a separate selection for copying the
boot
drive. You have to select the whole new drive as the target. When
using the boot drive copy, it seems to ignore the second partition
on
the old drive and places the old boot drive on a single partition
occupying the whole new drive. So it seems to remove my second
partition when creating the boot drive.

I am probably doing something wrong but I am not sure what. Any
ideas?


Well, I finally got it. I chatted with Seagate from their site and was
told that I was using a very old version of Disk Wizard. I downloaded
the new version and it was great. In one operation it formatted the
new drive, partitioned the drives to my specs, and copied both my C
and D drives to the correct locations. The interface was self
explanatory and it went very smoothly.

Thank you all for all your help. I appreciate it very much.

Bob
 
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smlunatick

Well, I finally got it. I chatted with Seagate from their site and was
told that I was using a very old version of Disk Wizard. I downloaded
the new version and it was great. In one operation it formatted the
new drive, partitioned the drives to my specs, and copied both my C
and D drives to the correct locations. The interface was self
explanatory and it went very smoothly.

Thank you all for all your help. I appreciate it very much.

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Of course! We forgot the first rule of thimb with any "software"
included with the hardware we purchase:

always check the manufacturer's web site for revised (aka newer)
versions of the drivers / utilities.
 

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