Re: MS Paint transparency problems in XP

[Sharon F]

We can't get the XP version of Microsoft Paint to save
the transparent background properly on gif art created in
Paint. We had no problems with it in the Windows ME
version of Microsoft Paint.

What is "not properly"? If you want the image to be "transparent," select
the same color for background as the color of the page it will be placed
on.

NOTE: In its default form, Paint is pretty basic. If you install any MS
products (Office, Picture It, etc) and opt to add the graphics filters
during setup, it will gain some extra capabilities. Transparency is still
set the same way though - matching background to the same color as the
target page.

 

[I'm Probably Not Here]

On 14/8/2003 18:12, Sharon F wrote:

What is "not properly"? If you want the image to be "transparent," select
the same color for background as the color of the page it will be placed
on.

That's not the definition of a transparent background.

 

[Sharon F]

On 14/8/2003 18:12, Sharon F wrote:



That's not the definition of a transparent background.

It is when you are working with GIF files.

True transparencies are easier accomplished with a different image format
and with programs that allow you to work in layers. Paint is not one of
those programs.

 

[Sharon F]

Nope, that's not the _definition_ for gif89a, which is "The GIF89
transparent color extension allows an image to specify a transparent
color, which can then be displayed as the same color as the background
on which the image is to be displayed."

Source: http://www.mit.edu:8001/people/nocturne/transparent.html

Transparent cannot be the absence of color. The definition says "which can
be displayed as the same color as the background..." That color has to be
assigned somewhere and somehow. In most graphics program that color is
inserted into the image by the user. Even Photoshop with its "transparent"
gif requires you to set the color of at least one background pixel when
creating a transparent gif. Paint cannot create transparent gifs. It can
read the files and will use the current designated background color to
display the image. That's as far as its capabilities go.

 

[Sharon F]

Transparent cannot be the absence of color. The definition says "which can
be displayed as the same color as the background..." That color has to be
assigned somewhere and somehow. In most graphics program that color is
inserted into the image by the user. Even Photoshop with its "transparent"
gif requires you to set the color of at least one background pixel when
creating a transparent gif. Paint cannot create transparent gifs. It can
read the files and will use the current designated background color to
display the image. That's as far as its capabilities go.

Oops, Photoshop will create a transparent background. My mistake, sorry.
Hopefully we can get a program or some steps to help the OP with their
problem. Thanks for your discussion about transparent gifs. Enjoyed it

 

[I'm Probably Not Here]

On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 13:35:40 -0500, Sharon F wrote:

Oops, Photoshop will create a transparent background. My mistake, sorry.
Hopefully we can get a program or some steps to help the OP with their
problem. Thanks for your discussion about transparent gifs. Enjoyed it

And to you, Sharon: You are welcome, thanks for the apology, glad you
enjoyed this.