Re install of Vista Home Premium

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Guest

I need to reinstall Vista HP Upgrade.
But when I try to run the Vista CD from the present OS I get an error and
the install aborts.
If I try to boot on the Vista CD I get a message saying that I need to run
the install from the existing Vista.

Why simples operations are so complicated !!!

Thanks for your help.

Bernard
 
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Carey Frisch [MVP]

How to Install or Reinstall Windows Vista
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/e77344fa-e978-464c-953e-eba44f0522671033.mspx

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Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User

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I need to reinstall Vista HP Upgrade.
But when I try to run the Vista CD from the present OS I get an error and
the install aborts.
If I try to boot on the Vista CD I get a message saying that I need to run
the install from the existing Vista.

Why simples operations are so complicated !!!

Thanks for your help.

Bernard
 
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Paul Randall

They are complicated because we want to take the easy/cheap way out, we
assume a big company like Microsoft is honorable and honest, and we don't
want to be bothered with actually thinking about the words we read and
understanding them and the consequences if things go wrong. We just want to
get it installed and be happy.

An upgrade is just that. The license requires you to have some previous
system installed, and it has to meet the requirements of the upgrade. Does
your upgrade license allow upgrading from your broken Vista to a new copy of
the same version of Vista? Maybe you have to reinstall WXP (or whatever you
upgraded from the first time) before you can try to do the upgrade again.
Of course that presents a problem if your WXP was an upgrade from W98, and
your W98 was an upgrade of W95 and your W95 was an upgrade of W3.1.
Upgrades can be a real pain if you abide by the license terms.

If Microsoft were an honorable company, it would tell you when it purposely
designs the software so that you can get around restrictions stated in the
license. For example, I think the WXP upgrade can be installed on a freshly
formatted hard drive if you just have the qualifying W98 CD inserted in a CD
drive (rather than installed on a hard drive) at the time it checks for
qualifying software. I've read that this does not work for Vista.

You might try this:
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_upgrade_clean.asp

Even though Microsoft designed this into the upgrade CD, it is possible that
Microsoft could redesign its phone-home activation reverification process to
deactivate your software at some point in the future, since technically it
wouldn't meet your upgrade license requirements. Some one on this newsgroup
says Microsoft already has made this change, but I haven't heard
confirmation from an actual end-user.

Microsoft has the capaility to deactivate your legal Vista installation at
any time in the future. If someone else activates their system by phone,
using your key, then you will soon have to reactivate.

I hope this response helps you and doesn't turn this thread into a Frank &
Earnest flame-throwing, name-calling utopian-OS marathon.

-Paul Randall
 
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Guest

Thanks Carey

Well with this page I only have the choice to make a CLEAN install and
loosing all existing programs or a reinstall of Vista . But as I mentioned
the second option does not works since it returns errors and the install is
aborted.
Is there a way to REPARE Vista without loosing all my stuff ?

Bernard
 
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Guest

Paul

Yes I agree with you. I understand that a software company needs to be
protected but I guess one easily way was to accept that the Upgrade Version
of Vista could verify that I have an original version of Windows XP by
checking its license number ! No ?

Bernard
 
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John

Well said, Bernard. Some people become a bit self-righteous loosing sight of
the forest from the trees. Have you tried booting the XP cd and seeing if
you can stop the install at a point where you can run the Vista upgrade? I
have heard there are ways to upgrade Vista from a Vista intall but I don't
know the specifics. It's probably on a hacker's site and worth researching.
 
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John

It was easy. I did a full install using an upgrade disk without putting
the numbers in. Then, when I was sure everything worked, I went back and
used the install disk again. I put the numbers in, chose upgrade, and it
upgraded the previous install of vista from the upgrade disk. The folks
at Best Buy showed me how to do it. At least i saved the money of buying
a full installation disk.

Of course, I got a brand new install, not an upgrade. But my efforts at
ugrading from xp had only succeeded in totally screwing up the puter.


John
 
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John

I followed these instructions precisely and also the instructions that
came with the upgrade disk. It didn't work. I got Microsoft Support on
the phone and over a period of 3 hours or so we all worked on it. It
still didn't work. Here is what they said was missing from the written
and published instructions. You should download and install all the new
drivers needed before upgrading and then boot to the upgrade disk and
upgrade. Apparently, even if you are on line, vista install can't find
the drivers and then just shuts down. You are then stuck with an
inoperable Vista install and your original xp not yet backed up so you
can revert to it.

Incidentally... I am incredibly impressed with the phone Microsoft
support. It's the best support of any company I've encountered in years
by far.

John
 

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