RC1?

[Alagondar]

Hi, everyone,

Does anyone know when RC1 will be released? I tried installing beta 2 but it
didn't work so I set my hopes on RC1.

Regards,

Marc

 

[Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM]

Hi, everyone,

Does anyone know when RC1 will be released? I tried installing beta 2 but
it didn't work so I set my hopes on RC1.

Regards,

Marc

Them as know don't tell.
Them as tell don't know.

 

[Volkan]

Maybe August.

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

Probably a lot later than that. A lot later.

Maybe August.

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

You are hereby fined $0.25 for even asking when the next build, milestone,
whatever, will be released!

 

[John Barnes]

Are you suggesting that RTM won't make Nov (be delayed like Office2007 now
has been)

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

RTM was moved back to 1Q 2007 a couple of months ago.

 

[Guest]

RC1 was originally scheduled for August 2006, according to PT from
WinSuperSite.com, however, it may be Delayed, since some Beta Tester's have
said that Build 5456 is a Very Bad Release, just FYI.

 

[John Barnes]

Way I read the announcement RTM was moved back to November, the public would
be able to purchase the product in January.

In its statement, Microsoft said simply that it would ship the volume-
licensed, business-oriented versions of Vista in November 2006 and the
consumer-oriented versions in January 2007.

This was 3 months ago. You say they have slipped it further. Seems to be
no announcement I can find. What is the new schedule

company plans a release to manufacturing (RTM) for
Vista on or before October 25, 2006, approximately two months later
than the previous shipment schedule

 

[MICHAEL]

I thought I read Microsoft would have Vista available for OEM
installs in time for the Christmas shopping season- end of November.


-Michael

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

RTM was scheduled for Q3 2006 at that time, also. But RTM is now scheduled
for 1Q 2007.

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

General public availability is 1Q 2007.

I thought I read Microsoft would have Vista available for OEM
installs in time for the Christmas shopping season- end of November.


-Michael

 

[HDRDTD]

As with every new product..........

1. Beta testing exists to find bugs and fix them.
2. As the testing progresses, they create a new version (build).
3. They test the new build and look for bugs.
4. goto step 2 and repeat as needed till it looks like they have fixed all
the most important bugs (nobody ever fixes all the bugs)
5. Release another version (build) that they think is pretty close to done
and dub it RC1 (release candidate 1)
6. If after testing the RC1 version it still looks good, then it gets
released to manufacturing (RTM)
7. if however, more bugs are found, then they fix those bugs and repeat the
process with the next try at a final version (RC2)
goto step 6

The point is, nobody can pinpoint ahead of time when RC1 will be achieved.
Then can estimate, but that's all.
Nobody can predict ahead of time how many RC versions they will produce.
They can only estimate.

RC1 will be released when it's ready.

Vista will ship, when they're ready.

 

[Chad Harris]

MSFT announced the delay and clearly the non-enterprise releases were set
for Jan. The press in the US (predominantly beyond stupid as it is to
world events and political coverage and this as well) screwed the pooch with
a lot of crap about it as an index of some "slippage" in MSFT corporate
culture, related to shuffling of positions ect ect in the first wave back
then and in the recent wave. More directly, Allchin and a lot of his Vista
key players probably just looked at the bugs per build and their
significance and decided it needed holding up.

I wouldn't focus much on release dates for operating systems and Office
because history shows that they have been changed at the last minute
frequently. I'd just concentrate on getting the most you can out of what
you have. Vista has a number of features that most Beta testers despite all
their extra info aren't aware of that don't leap out at you.

I would say to the OP though, who says he can't use Beta 2 that rather than
making a nebulous sweeping statement, he/she should bring their issues here
or to a thousand other forums and get help with the problems they have and
it might be a whole other experience for them.

CH

 

[Chad Harris]

Some have; and some have said it's better in many ways; reviews have been
mixed. Generalizations don't work very well IMHO.

CH

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

It sure depends a lot on which subset of the features a person uses day to
day. If your favorite features were recently added to the build most likely
its bugs will drive you nuts making you percieve the whole to be a train
wreck.

 

[John Barnes]

Nice post, but are you saying there has been a more recent announcement from
Microsoft than the ones in my post? Already says RTM Oct-Nov and Retail in
Jan.

 

[Chad Harris]

No not saying that John. The "official word" has been as you've said. A
lot of "educated speculation" in the ezines and media is that there could be
further holdup. Many Windows VPs (there seem to be an endless roster of
them) have refused to answer whether there could be more delay. I
personally view all delay as good. There have been a number of mods as you
know to the original Vista. Win FS probably the most publicized and
discussed in web forums. Apparently .pdf and .xms will be downloadable
rather than natively included (lastest I'm hearing). I suspect that
whenever the releases--Office and Vista will release on exactly the same
dates but it's just my guess.

I always remember that this is "Jim Allchin's last hurrah in the sense that
although he will always be very connected (no puns) he has been the
supervisory force and architect of Windows OS's and servers. Allchin
started out in a poor farming family, dropped out of the engineering program
at the University of Florida to start a career in bands, went back to
school, Florida and then got his degree from Stanford, worked for Texas
Instruments and got his Ph.D. in Computer Science from Ga. Tech. From then
on he was the principle architect of diverse operating systems at different
companies.

Jim Allchin interview on Vista and Longhorn Servers
http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=63208

I see Allchin as a driving force to want to get things very right in this
OS. Having said that, I think his product managers possibly feeling
pressure from Sinofsky wanting trains to run on time whether the cars are
quality or not are trying to just phone many features in without fixing
them.

I know that Ed Bott--a good blog to read--is glad to have the time to work
on Vista Inside Out MSFT Press--and I'm glad he'll make it better because I
will learn more. I have n oticed in the Vista books now showing up in
stores, much information that MSFT refuses to publish anywhere on their
sites. I try to make it a point to monitor the Longhorn Vista blogs from
Technet and MSDN and MSDN and Technet as it relates to Vista and there is
not all that much there.

CH

 

[John Barnes]

I'm guessing there will be also, especially since there is an indefinite
hold on Office2007 which they seemed to want to release concurrently with
Vista
Also doesn't seem to be progressing well. Also from programming 101, you
need to fix the problem, not try to patch the symptom. Some of the reports
on the next version indicate they are trying patching and just causing more
symptoms