Quick Launch - Show More Icons

H

HT

My Quick Launch toolbar only shows 3 icons. Can I make it bigger to show more
buttons instead of clicking the arrow button to see the other applications?

Thanks,
Heather
 
J

Jose

My Quick Launch toolbar only shows 3 icons. Can I make it bigger to show more
buttons instead of clicking the arrow button to see the other applications?

Thanks,
Heather

The answer to your question is yes.

I stole this from another forum. Typos included at no extra charge.

Just right click your Taskbar and uncheck "Lock the Taskbar" then put
your cursor(pointer) over the peforated verticle line on the right of
your Quicklaunch area till it turns into a 2 sided arrow, hold your
left mouse button down and drag to the right till all your quicklaunch
icons are showing, release the mouse button. You can then right click
your Taskbar again and checkmark "Lock the Taskbar". You can put
whatever you want in the quicklaunche area by making a shortcut to the
programs exe file and put it into your quicklaunch area.
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

My Quick Launch toolbar only shows 3 icons. Can I make it bigger to show more
buttons instead of clicking the arrow button to see the other applications?


Yes, its size is variable. Drag the divider at its end to the right
and it will get bigger. Drag it to the left and it will get smaller.
If the divider won't drag, your Task Bar is locked, so first
right-click on a blank part of it and unlock it.

However if it resides on the Task Bar and you make it bigger, the Task
Bar gets smaller with less room for anything else. Note that I said
"*if* it resides on the Task Bar." It doesn't have to. You can drag it
off the Task Bar entirely and dock it on another side of the screen.
Particularly if you have a wide-screen monitor, you may like the setup
with the Task Bar at the bottom (its location is also variable, and it
can be on another side of the screen) and the Quick Launch Bar at the
left or right.
 
B

Bill in Co.

Yes, its size is variable. Drag the divider at its end to the right
and it will get bigger. Drag it to the left and it will get smaller.
If the divider won't drag, your Task Bar is locked, so first
right-click on a blank part of it and unlock it.

However if it resides on the Task Bar and you make it bigger, the Task
Bar gets smaller with less room for anything else.

Speaking of which, is there ANY way to completely disable that scroll thing
when you have too many open apps? In other words, to disable the limit of
the max number of items on the task bar, before that stupid scroll thing
appears? I tried a registry patch to change the max limit number, but that
didn't eliminate it from still appearing).

I don't want that scroller thing, no matter how small the areas on the task
bar become.
 
T

Tim Meddick

If you mean by "stupid scroll thing" the way Windows "stacks" like minded
applications onto single taskbar entries - yes.

Either;
Set the following registry value to 99 :

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced]
"TaskbarGroupSize"=dword:00000063

(The reason it's "63" above, is that's hexadecimal for 99 - if you navigate manually
to the key using regedit.exe and re-set the value by double-clicking on it, you can
set it to either enter decimal or hex numbers by changing the position of the 'radio
button' )

Or...

Download the small TweakUI.exe program from Microsoft and set the item : 'Taskbar and
Start Menu' > 'Grouping' to 99

Download TweakUI.exe "powertoy" for XP from :

http://download.microsoft.com/downl...a6-b352-839afb2a2679/TweakUiPowertoySetup.exe


Either way, this will stop the Taskbar items from being grouped together - unless -
you happen to load more than 99 instances of an application...

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)
 
B

Bill in Co.

Tim said:
If you mean by "stupid scroll thing" the way Windows "stacks" like minded
applications onto single taskbar entries - yes.

That's what I mean.
LOL - if I wanted THAT kind of thing to happen, I'd ask for it, but I
wouldn't. More below..
Either;
Set the following registry value to 99 :

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced]
"TaskbarGroupSize"=dword:00000063

(The reason it's "63" above, is that's hexadecimal for 99 - if you
navigate
manually to the key using regedit.exe and re-set the value by
double-clicking
on it, you can set it to either enter decimal or hex numbers by changing
the
position of the 'radio button' )

Or...

Download the small TweakUI.exe program from Microsoft and set the item :
'Taskbar and Start Menu' > 'Grouping' to 99

Download TweakUI.exe "powertoy" for XP from :

http://download.microsoft.com/
download/f/c/a/fca6767b-9ed9-45a6-b352-839afb2a2679/TweakUiPowertoySetup.exe

No, don't want TweakUI. I always prefer the selective registry editing
approach, which I have already used:

I tried changing that value once again (as I have before) to a high value
like you suggested, but it does NOT prevent it from happening once you reach
around 8 or so items on the taskbar. (You can try it for yourself and see
what I mean).

It's very easy to test: make the change in regedit, and then keep clicking
on Explorer (to add more items to the task bar), and you'll see what I mean.
After you reach 8 or so items it may depend on what you already have in
Quick Launch), that stupid scroll bar appears, whether you want it or not,
registry patch notwithstanding.

Bill




Either way, this will stop the Taskbar items from being grouped together -
unless - you happen to load more than 99 instances of an application...

Now THAT would be highly unlikely!!
At any rate, I'll try upping the value beyond the lower ones I've already
tried in the past, and give it a shot - thanks.
 
T

Tim Meddick

Bill,
I tried it and found that it's not the same thing.

The "Taskbar Grouping" IS disabled if you set it to 99

However, something I've not experienced before happens (as I've always got Taskbar
Grouping set to 2).

The phenomena to which I think you were originally referring occurs, and I
incorrectly called "Taskbar Grouping".

This phenomena is like "scrolling" and produces up /down arrowed switches at the far
right end of the Taskbar.

This is irritating and would ask you to try setting the registry value to which I
referred to earlier to 2 instead of 99.

In addition, make sure the following reg value is either not present or set to 0
[zero]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]
"NoTaskGrouping"=dword:00000000

Grouped taskbar entries are not as irritating as the up / down "scroll" buttons at
the end.

If you use "Taskbar Grouping" land set it to 2 - like I have - you should never see
the "scroll" buttons again!

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)




Bill in Co. said:
Tim said:
If you mean by "stupid scroll thing" the way Windows "stacks" like minded
applications onto single taskbar entries - yes.

That's what I mean.
LOL - if I wanted THAT kind of thing to happen, I'd ask for it, but I wouldn't.
More below..
Either;
Set the following registry value to 99 :

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced]
"TaskbarGroupSize"=dword:00000063

(The reason it's "63" above, is that's hexadecimal for 99 - if you navigate
manually to the key using regedit.exe and re-set the value by double-clicking
on it, you can set it to either enter decimal or hex numbers by changing the
position of the 'radio button' )

Or...

Download the small TweakUI.exe program from Microsoft and set the item :
'Taskbar and Start Menu' > 'Grouping' to 99

Download TweakUI.exe "powertoy" for XP from :

http://download.microsoft.com/
download/f/c/a/fca6767b-9ed9-45a6-b352-839afb2a2679/TweakUiPowertoySetup.exe

No, don't want TweakUI. I always prefer the selective registry editing
approach, which I have already used:

I tried changing that value once again (as I have before) to a high value like you
suggested, but it does NOT prevent it from happening once you reach around 8 or so
items on the taskbar. (You can try it for yourself and see what I mean).

It's very easy to test: make the change in regedit, and then keep clicking on
Explorer (to add more items to the task bar), and you'll see what I mean. After you
reach 8 or so items it may depend on what you already have in Quick Launch), that
stupid scroll bar appears, whether you want it or not, registry patch
notwithstanding.

Bill




Either way, this will stop the Taskbar items from being grouped together -
unless - you happen to load more than 99 instances of an application...

Now THAT would be highly unlikely!!
At any rate, I'll try upping the value beyond the lower ones I've already tried in
the past, and give it a shot - thanks.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)
 
B

Bill in Co.

Tim said:
Bill,
I tried it and found that it's not the same thing.

The "Taskbar Grouping" IS disabled if you set it to 99

However, something I've not experienced before happens (as I've always got
Taskbar Grouping set to 2).

The phenomena to which I think you were originally referring occurs, and I
incorrectly called "Taskbar Grouping".

This phenomena is like "scrolling" and produces up /down arrowed switches
at
the far right end of the Taskbar.

YES, that was what I was talking about. Sorry about the confusion.
This is irritating and would ask you to try setting the registry value to
which I referred to earlier to 2 instead of 99.

Just did that...
In addition, make sure the following reg value is either not present or
set
to 0 [zero]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ Policies\Explorer]
"NoTaskGrouping"=dword:00000000

That specific key does not exist over here, so that's not an issue.
Grouped taskbar entries are not as irritating as the up / down "scroll"
buttons at the end.

If you use "Taskbar Grouping" land set it to 2 - like I have - you should
never see the "scroll" buttons again!

Tried that. Still get the same thing. After (for example) clicking on
windows explorer multiple times (to get multiple instances), once I get
around 8 or so that stupid scroll bar still appears.

Bill

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)




Bill in Co. said:
Tim said:
If you mean by "stupid scroll thing" the way Windows "stacks" like
minded
applications onto single taskbar entries - yes.

That's what I mean.
LOL - if I wanted THAT kind of thing to happen, I'd ask for it, but I
wouldn't. More below..
Either;
Set the following registry value to 99 :

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced]
"TaskbarGroupSize"=dword:00000063

(The reason it's "63" above, is that's hexadecimal for 99 - if you
navigate
manually to the key using regedit.exe and re-set the value by
double-clicking on it, you can set it to either enter decimal or hex
numbers by changing the position of the 'radio button' )

Or...

Download the small TweakUI.exe program from Microsoft and set the item :
'Taskbar and Start Menu' > 'Grouping' to 99

Download TweakUI.exe "powertoy" for XP from :

http://download.microsoft.com/
download/f/c/a/fca6767b-9ed9-45a6-b352-839afb2a2679/TweakUiPowertoySetup.exe

No, don't want TweakUI. I always prefer the selective registry
editing
approach, which I have already used:

I tried changing that value once again (as I have before) to a high value
like you suggested, but it does NOT prevent it from happening once you
reach
around 8 or so items on the taskbar. (You can try it for yourself and
see
what I mean). It's very easy to test: make the change in regedit, and
then keep clicking
on Explorer (to add more items to the task bar), and you'll see what I
mean.
After you reach 8 or so items it may depend on what you already have in
Quick Launch), that stupid scroll bar appears, whether you want it or
not,
registry patch notwithstanding.

Bill




Either way, this will stop the Taskbar items from being grouped
together -
unless - you happen to load more than 99 instances of an application...

Now THAT would be highly unlikely!!
At any rate, I'll try upping the value beyond the lower ones I've already
tried in the past, and give it a shot - thanks.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)




Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
My Quick Launch toolbar only shows 3 icons. Can I make it bigger to
show
more buttons instead of clicking the arrow button to see the other
applications?


Yes, its size is variable. Drag the divider at its end to the right
and it will get bigger. Drag it to the left and it will get smaller.
If the divider won't drag, your Task Bar is locked, so first
right-click on a blank part of it and unlock it.

However if it resides on the Task Bar and you make it bigger, the Task
Bar gets smaller with less room for anything else.

Speaking of which, is there ANY way to completely disable that scroll
thing
when you have too many open apps? In other words, to disable the
limit of
the max number of items on the task bar, before that stupid scroll
thing
appears? I tried a registry patch to change the max limit number, but
that
didn't eliminate it from still appearing).

I don't want that scroller thing, no matter how small the areas on the
task
bar become.
 
H

HT

Thanks Jose - way too simple. I should have just clicked around to see what
happens. THANKS MUCH!

Heather
 
H

HT

Hi Ken,

Well dang I feel like such a novice! This is so elementary, I'm sure. But I
just can't get that Quick Launch to move anywhere! Am I misunderstanding
something here? It seems you are saying that my task bar can reside on (e.g.)
the bottom of the screen but that I can somehow "detach" the quick launch
from the task bar to move it to another part of the screen? I'm interested in
doing that, but when I try to click and drag it, it doesn't go anywhere. I've
tried it with the taskbar locked and unlocked. Any ideas?

Thanks,
Heather
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Hi Ken,

Well dang I feel like such a novice! This is so elementary, I'm sure. But I
just can't get that Quick Launch to move anywhere! Am I misunderstanding
something here?


No, I don't think so.

It seems you are saying that my task bar can reside on (e.g.)
the bottom of the screen


Yes, or on another side of the screen.


but that I can somehow "detach" the quick launch
from the task bar to move it to another part of the screen?



Yes. It isn't really attached to the task bar, it's just sitting on
it. You can move it to any other side you prefer it on.

I'm interested in
doing that, but when I try to click and drag it, it doesn't go anywhere. I've
tried it with the taskbar locked and unlocked. Any ideas?


Make sure it's unlocked. Then drag it where you want it. It works.



 
H

HT

Finally! I got it. Thanks much. I had to re-size the task bar to make it
larger. For some odd reason, at least for me, it made it easier to grab the
right spot on the Quick Launch to drag it. Cool! Thanks again!

Heather
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Finally! I got it. Thanks much. I had to re-size the task bar to make it
larger. For some odd reason, at least for me, it made it easier to grab the
right spot on the Quick Launch to drag it. Cool! Thanks again!


You're welcome. Glad to help.

I knew that if you persisted, you'd get it.

 
T

Tim Meddick

Bill,
I did not read the lower side of the posts before sending my last post, just
the reply you sent to my erlier post.

But I am glad you got it sorted, and hope my explinations were of some help...

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)





Well Bill,
<clipped>
 
B

Bill in Co.

I didn't get it sorted. It never worked for me (that one registry key you
mentioned that may or may not exist did not exist in my registry), so no
matter what value I put in the other key, the scroll thing appeared. The
only thing I didn't try was to create that other key you mentioned.
 
T

Tim Meddick

If you mean the reg value below - then set it to '2' and NOT to '99' (Hex63) - as
when I first quoted that value I was thinking you wanted the opposite of what I now
realize you want.

i.e. To get rid of the 'nasty' up /down arrow 'scroll things'...

You could make a reg file out of the following :

--------------- begin --------------

REGEDIT4

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced]
"TaskbarGroupSize"=dword:00000002

---------------- end ---------------

....Or, you could execute the following from a 'Command Prompt' :

reg ADD HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced /v
TaskbarGroupSize /t REG_DWORD /d 2 /f

(The above command should be all on one line but may not appear so due to line-wrap.
Please ensure that the command begins with 'reg' and ends with '/f')

But, in both cases, without the use of TweakUI - you MUST logoff / logon to see the
change.

(Using the setting in TweakUI.exe 'refreshes' the setting without the need for
logging off)

In fact, I really would advise you to download TweakUI - it's not a 'cheat' I use a
number of "Tweak" programs to get what I want out of XP - I would definitely use the
program in this case - simply because of the 'refresh' issue - or I'd be forever
logging off and logging back on....

Just in case you change your mind :
http://download.microsoft.com/downl...a6-b352-839afb2a2679/TweakUiPowertoySetup.exe


*Note - Please exercise care when editing the registry, always create a backup and /
or create a 'System Restore' point first.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)
 
B

Bill in Co.

I know how to use regedit pretty well (so I don't need to create a reg file
to do it), as I've been in there numerous times, so that's no problem. But
I disagree with using TweakUI, as I like to have specific issues addressed
with specific registry key changes that *I* make and document, and not have
it all hidden under the auspices of a program like TweakUI, but that's just
me. :)

One of the two keys you mentioned earlier was non-existent, so that part was
a non-issue.

The only thing left was to set the other one (below) to have a value of 2,
as you said below, which I tried, but that didn't and doesn't solve the
problem for me.

Bill

Tim said:
If you mean the reg value below - then set it to '2' and NOT to '99'
(Hex63)
- as when I first quoted that value I was thinking you wanted the opposite
of
what I now realize you want.

i.e. To get rid of the 'nasty' up /down arrow 'scroll things'...

You could make a reg file out of the following :

--------------- begin --------------

REGEDIT4

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ Explorer\Advanced]
"TaskbarGroupSize"=dword:00000002

---------------- end ---------------

...Or, you could execute the following from a 'Command Prompt' :

reg ADD HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced
/v
TaskbarGroupSize /t REG_DWORD /d 2 /f

(The above command should be all on one line but may not appear so due to
line-wrap. Please ensure that the command begins with 'reg' and ends with
'/f')
But, in both cases, without the use of TweakUI - you MUST logoff / logon
to
see the change.

(Using the setting in TweakUI.exe 'refreshes' the setting without the need
for
logging off)

In fact, I really would advise you to download TweakUI - it's not a
'cheat' I
use a number of "Tweak" programs to get what I want out of XP - I would
definitely use the program in this case - simply because of the 'refresh'
issue - or I'd be forever logging off and logging back on....

Just in case you change your mind :
http://download.microsoft.com/downl...a6-b352-839afb2a2679/TweakUiPowertoySetup.exe


*Note - Please exercise care when editing the registry, always create a
backup and / or create a 'System Restore' point first.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)




Bill in Co. said:
I didn't get it sorted. It never worked for me (that one registry key
you
mentioned that may or may not exist did not exist in my registry), so no
matter what value I put in the other key, the scroll thing appeared. The
only thing I didn't try was to create that other key you mentioned.
 
T

Tim Meddick

Did you log off - like I said? - it will not be apparent unless you do.

There was another setting that got changed when a ran a comparison of the registry
changes on using FreshUI (another "tweak" program):

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]
"NoToolbarsOnTaskbar"=dword:00000001

....so, that and then the others I will quote yet again :

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]
"NoTaskGrouping"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced]
"TaskbarGroupSize"=dword:00000002

....I don't know if adding that first value will alter anything for you, but those ARE
absolutely all the settings that happened to be changed...

But you HAVE TO LOG OFF STRAIGHT AWAY - and then back on, to have the registry change
effected.

Also, having 'Grouping' set to ON and having 'Grouping' set to it's lowest value of 2
(i.e any more than 2 notepads get grouped under one taskbar entry) does NOT switch
off the up /down arrows.

But, as you can see in the screen-shots I posted earlier, you can still have 14 open
IE windows and 54 notepads open and still no scrolling arrows.

But, if you had a particularly 'short' usable area of Taskbar (because, say, you had
loads of Quick-launch icons) you WOULD get the arrows much sooner.

I have avoided seeing them in about two years since I implemented Taskbar Grouping in
the first place.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)




Bill in Co. said:
I know how to use regedit pretty well (so I don't need to create a reg file to do
it), as I've been in there numerous times, so that's no problem. But I disagree
with using TweakUI, as I like to have specific issues addressed with specific
registry key changes that *I* make and document, and not have it all hidden under
the auspices of a program like TweakUI, but that's just me. :)

One of the two keys you mentioned earlier was non-existent, so that part was a
non-issue.

The only thing left was to set the other one (below) to have a value of 2, as you
said below, which I tried, but that didn't and doesn't solve the problem for me.

Bill

Tim said:
If you mean the reg value below - then set it to '2' and NOT to '99' (Hex63)
- as when I first quoted that value I was thinking you wanted the opposite of
what I now realize you want.

i.e. To get rid of the 'nasty' up /down arrow 'scroll things'...

You could make a reg file out of the following :

--------------- begin --------------

REGEDIT4

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ Explorer\Advanced]
"TaskbarGroupSize"=dword:00000002

---------------- end ---------------

...Or, you could execute the following from a 'Command Prompt' :

reg ADD HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced /v
TaskbarGroupSize /t REG_DWORD /d 2 /f

(The above command should be all on one line but may not appear so due to
line-wrap. Please ensure that the command begins with 'reg' and ends with
'/f')
But, in both cases, without the use of TweakUI - you MUST logoff / logon to
see the change.

(Using the setting in TweakUI.exe 'refreshes' the setting without the need for
logging off)

In fact, I really would advise you to download TweakUI - it's not a 'cheat' I
use a number of "Tweak" programs to get what I want out of XP - I would
definitely use the program in this case - simply because of the 'refresh'
issue - or I'd be forever logging off and logging back on....

Just in case you change your mind :
http://download.microsoft.com/downl...a6-b352-839afb2a2679/TweakUiPowertoySetup.exe


*Note - Please exercise care when editing the registry, always create a
backup and / or create a 'System Restore' point first.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)




Bill in Co. said:
I didn't get it sorted. It never worked for me (that one registry key you
mentioned that may or may not exist did not exist in my registry), so no
matter what value I put in the other key, the scroll thing appeared. The
only thing I didn't try was to create that other key you mentioned.

Tim Meddick wrote:
Bill,
I did not read the lower side of the posts before sending my last post,
just the reply you sent to my erlier post.

But I am glad you got it sorted, and hope my explinations were of some
help... ==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)





Well Bill,
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