Q re: Search Details columns

A

albert

WinXP Pro, sp1, build 2600.xpsp2

I have the system set to "windows classic" appearance. I have folder
options (through both "my computer" and "windows explorer") set to "remember
each folder's settings"......

I have Search set to "advanced." My search results default to the following
details -- name, in folder, relevance, size and type. I am not happy with
this arrangement. I keep changing it, but it does not keep the new setting
beyond that particular search. This is annoying and time wasting, and I
would like to know if there is a way to permanently set the details and
column sizes I wish (without, hopefully, messing around with the display of
columns in Windows Explorer)

I'd prefer to have the following details added to the colums: Date Created,
Date Modified. I'd also like to change the order of the columns and their
relative sizes. Even though I do all this manually, the search folder does
not retain its settings (WinExplorer does show the date created, so search
can't be picking up settings from Explorer, I guess). I have tried setting
up search to my liking and closing it while holding Ctrl (that used to work
for other stuff in WinMe, as I recall -- but no luck here).

Help will be appreciated.

albert
 
D

David Candy

Tools - Folder Options - View - Apply to All Folders (this means set as default for similar folders - search is a particular folder - file search and computer search are different folders)

It also sets the system defaults but a normal folder defaults override the system defaults. Doing it in Search folder (a hidden folder on your desktop) doesn't change File Folder defaults.
 
A

albert

I must be missing something -- I tried your steps, several ways, but still
no effect on the details columns. No matter how I try setting Folder
Options, Search always opens without the details I want -- e.g., without
Dates, Attributes, etc.

Any other ideas will be appreciated. Where is this stuff in the registry?

TIA
albert


Tools - Folder Options - View - Apply to All Folders (this means set as
default for similar folders - search is a particular folder - file search
and computer search are different folders)

It also sets the system defaults but a normal folder defaults override the
system defaults. Doing it in Search folder (a hidden folder on your desktop)
doesn't change File Folder defaults.
 
D

David Candy

There are numerous settings.

This next section is from the settlement interfaces.
If a property bag cannot be found for the specified folder, the system searches for identically named property bags in other locations that may be able to provide default values. For example, the system searches in the ancestors of the folder to see if any of them provide a SHGVSPB_INHERIT property bag. Other places the system searches are in the user defaults and the global defaults.
SHGVSPB_PERUSER
Returns the per-user properties for the specified pidl.
SHGVSPB_ALLUSERS
Returns the all user properties for the specified pidl.
One of the following flags is required.
SHGVSPB_PERFOLDER
Returns the property bag for the folder specified by the pidl parameter.
SHGVSPB_ALLFOLDERS
Returns the property bag that applies to all folders.
SHGVSPB_INHERIT
Returns the property bag used to provide defaults for subfolders that do not have their property bag.
So it's hard to predict what happens.

More info
Most people have problems with folders because they don't understand how it works. Why it works the way it does is beyond me.

With XP (and all previous versions with minor differences eg 95 stored 29 folders) the last 400 folders are remembered.

Clicking Apply to All folders set the defaults here
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Streams
settings=
and
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Streams\Defaults
With the numbers being the default for each type of folder. A file folder is
{F3364BA0-65B9-11CE-A9BA-00AA004AE837} [and search is {E17D4FC0-5564-11D1-83F2-00A0C90DC849}]

Then it deletes all saved settings for individual folders here
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam\Bags

So clicking Apply to all folders in My Comp does the settings= and the num for My Comp (not file folder).

Reset all folders just deletes all saved folder settings.

The streams key is where a folder's settings is stored pre XP but only removable drives and defaults are stored here in XP.

In another change (I think introduced with 2000) explorer view lost it's seperate settings and now shares with folder view. If you both explore and open folders this can lead to confusion. The initial window size comes from the saved settings - the window will be the same size if exploring or opening.

There are two further settings that determine how explorer works.
I'll let the Win2000 resource kit explain it.

Understanding Saved Views and Browsing Folders
In Windows 2000 Professional, the view you use is not always permanently saved in Windows Explorer. You can control whether the views you use are saved permanently or temporarily by using the Remember each folder's view settings check box on the View tab of the Folder Options dialog box (see figure 9.3).

By default the Remember each folder's view settings option is enabled. When you choose to leave this setting enabled, the following happens:

a.. The changes you make to a folder's view is automatically saved when you close the folder.
b.. The view you use to view one folder is not applied to other folders.
c.. When you open a folder, it opens in the view you used when you last viewed it.
When you clear the check box for Remember each folder's view settings, the following happens:

a.. When you start Windows Explorer, the first folder you view displays in the folder's saved view. Windows Explorer holds that view in temporary memory and applies it to all the folders that you visit while Windows Explorer remains open unless you manually alter the view.
b.. As you browse to other folders (after the initial folder is opened), the saved view for each folder is ignored, and when you quit Windows Explorer, the folder view that you have been using to view multiple folders is deleted from temporary memory.
c.. The next time you open Windows Explorer, once again, it is the saved view of the first folder you open that determines how you view multiple folders.
Setting All Folders to the Same View
Some users want to have all their Windows Explorer folders set to the same view. In Windows 2000 Professional, the default setting is that any change made to a folder's view is automatically saved when you close the folder and is not applied to other folders. However, you can set all folders to the same view by using the Folder Options command as described in the following procedure.

To set all folders to the same view
1.. In My Computer or Windows Explorer, set the view to your preference.
2.. On the Tools menu, click Folder Options.
3.. In the Folder Options dialog box, click the View tab.
4.. Under Folder Views, click Like Current Folder.
Important The Remember each folder's view settings check box on the View tab of the Folder Options dialog box (see Figure 9.3) affects how the view settings of individual folders are applied and saved. For more information about the impact of clearing this check box, see "Understanding Saved Views and Browsing Folders" earlier in this chapter.

It's me again not MS

Sometimes windows gets confused and doesn't save settings.

If no settings whatsoever are saved delete (note a reset of settings only clears one of these keys - one assumes corruption is more likely to be in the other key)
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam\Bags and
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam\BagMRU

If a few settings are saved then delete this key (this is also the sort for File Open but file open doesn't change it only reads it)

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer
Shellstate=

Try deleting everything I said above and try again.
 
D

David Candy

It works here. I now have horrid detail view with the relevence column. Make sure it works on normal folders.

--
David Candy
http://www.mvps.org/serenitymacros/
http://www.simtel.com/pub/pd/18669.html
There are numerous settings.

This next section is from the settlement interfaces.
If a property bag cannot be found for the specified folder, the system searches for identically named property bags in other locations that may be able to provide default values. For example, the system searches in the ancestors of the folder to see if any of them provide a SHGVSPB_INHERIT property bag. Other places the system searches are in the user defaults and the global defaults.
SHGVSPB_PERUSER
Returns the per-user properties for the specified pidl.
SHGVSPB_ALLUSERS
Returns the all user properties for the specified pidl.
One of the following flags is required.
SHGVSPB_PERFOLDER
Returns the property bag for the folder specified by the pidl parameter.
SHGVSPB_ALLFOLDERS
Returns the property bag that applies to all folders.
SHGVSPB_INHERIT
Returns the property bag used to provide defaults for subfolders that do not have their property bag.
So it's hard to predict what happens.

More info
Most people have problems with folders because they don't understand how it works. Why it works the way it does is beyond me.

With XP (and all previous versions with minor differences eg 95 stored 29 folders) the last 400 folders are remembered.

Clicking Apply to All folders set the defaults here
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Streams
settings=
and
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Streams\Defaults
With the numbers being the default for each type of folder. A file folder is
{F3364BA0-65B9-11CE-A9BA-00AA004AE837} [and search is {E17D4FC0-5564-11D1-83F2-00A0C90DC849}]

Then it deletes all saved settings for individual folders here
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam\Bags

So clicking Apply to all folders in My Comp does the settings= and the num for My Comp (not file folder).

Reset all folders just deletes all saved folder settings.

The streams key is where a folder's settings is stored pre XP but only removable drives and defaults are stored here in XP.

In another change (I think introduced with 2000) explorer view lost it's seperate settings and now shares with folder view. If you both explore and open folders this can lead to confusion. The initial window size comes from the saved settings - the window will be the same size if exploring or opening.

There are two further settings that determine how explorer works.
I'll let the Win2000 resource kit explain it.

Understanding Saved Views and Browsing Folders
In Windows 2000 Professional, the view you use is not always permanently saved in Windows Explorer. You can control whether the views you use are saved permanently or temporarily by using the Remember each folder's view settings check box on the View tab of the Folder Options dialog box (see figure 9.3).

By default the Remember each folder's view settings option is enabled. When you choose to leave this setting enabled, the following happens:

a.. The changes you make to a folder's view is automatically saved when you close the folder.
b.. The view you use to view one folder is not applied to other folders.
c.. When you open a folder, it opens in the view you used when you last viewed it.
When you clear the check box for Remember each folder's view settings, the following happens:

a.. When you start Windows Explorer, the first folder you view displays in the folder's saved view. Windows Explorer holds that view in temporary memory and applies it to all the folders that you visit while Windows Explorer remains open unless you manually alter the view.
b.. As you browse to other folders (after the initial folder is opened), the saved view for each folder is ignored, and when you quit Windows Explorer, the folder view that you have been using to view multiple folders is deleted from temporary memory.
c.. The next time you open Windows Explorer, once again, it is the saved view of the first folder you open that determines how you view multiple folders.
Setting All Folders to the Same View
Some users want to have all their Windows Explorer folders set to the same view. In Windows 2000 Professional, the default setting is that any change made to a folder's view is automatically saved when you close the folder and is not applied to other folders. However, you can set all folders to the same view by using the Folder Options command as described in the following procedure.

To set all folders to the same view
1.. In My Computer or Windows Explorer, set the view to your preference.
2.. On the Tools menu, click Folder Options.
3.. In the Folder Options dialog box, click the View tab.
4.. Under Folder Views, click Like Current Folder.
Important The Remember each folder's view settings check box on the View tab of the Folder Options dialog box (see Figure 9.3) affects how the view settings of individual folders are applied and saved. For more information about the impact of clearing this check box, see "Understanding Saved Views and Browsing Folders" earlier in this chapter.

It's me again not MS

Sometimes windows gets confused and doesn't save settings.

If no settings whatsoever are saved delete (note a reset of settings only clears one of these keys - one assumes corruption is more likely to be in the other key)
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam\Bags and
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam\BagMRU

If a few settings are saved then delete this key (this is also the sort for File Open but file open doesn't change it only reads it)

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer
Shellstate=

Try deleting everything I said above and try again.
 
A

albert

David,

Just got in........ You certainly did some homework for me -- it will take
me a while to digest what you have sent. I'll get to work on it and see
what I can accomplish. I'll post again with my results. Thank you very
much for your help.

albert



It works here. I now have horrid detail view with the relevence column. Make
sure it works on normal folders.

--
David Candy
http://www.mvps.org/serenitymacros/
http://www.simtel.com/pub/pd/18669.html
There are numerous settings.

This next section is from the settlement interfaces.
If a property bag cannot be found for the specified folder, the system
searches for identically named property bags in other locations that may be
able to provide default values. For example, the system searches in the
ancestors of the folder to see if any of them provide a SHGVSPB_INHERIT
property bag. Other places the system searches are in the user defaults and
the global defaults.
SHGVSPB_PERUSER
Returns the per-user properties for the specified pidl.
SHGVSPB_ALLUSERS
Returns the all user properties for the specified pidl.
One of the following flags is required.
SHGVSPB_PERFOLDER
Returns the property bag for the folder specified by the pidl parameter.
SHGVSPB_ALLFOLDERS
Returns the property bag that applies to all folders.
SHGVSPB_INHERIT
Returns the property bag used to provide defaults for subfolders that do
not have their property bag.
So it's hard to predict what happens.

More info
Most people have problems with folders because they don't understand how it
works. Why it works the way it does is beyond me.

With XP (and all previous versions with minor differences eg 95 stored 29
folders) the last 400 folders are remembered.

Clicking Apply to All folders set the defaults here
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Streams
settings=
and
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Streams
\Defaults
With the numbers being the default for each type of folder. A file folder is
{F3364BA0-65B9-11CE-A9BA-00AA004AE837} [and search is
{E17D4FC0-5564-11D1-83F2-00A0C90DC849}]

Then it deletes all saved settings for individual folders here
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam\Bags

So clicking Apply to all folders in My Comp does the settings= and the num
for My Comp (not file folder).

Reset all folders just deletes all saved folder settings.

The streams key is where a folder's settings is stored pre XP but only
removable drives and defaults are stored here in XP.

In another change (I think introduced with 2000) explorer view lost it's
seperate settings and now shares with folder view. If you both explore and
open folders this can lead to confusion. The initial window size comes from
the saved settings - the window will be the same size if exploring or
opening.

There are two further settings that determine how explorer works.
I'll let the Win2000 resource kit explain it.

Understanding Saved Views and Browsing Folders
In Windows 2000 Professional, the view you use is not always permanently
saved in Windows Explorer. You can control whether the views you use are
saved permanently or temporarily by using the Remember each folder's view
settings check box on the View tab of the Folder Options dialog box (see
figure 9.3).

By default the Remember each folder's view settings option is enabled. When
you choose to leave this setting enabled, the following happens:

a.. The changes you make to a folder's view is automatically saved when
you close the folder.
b.. The view you use to view one folder is not applied to other folders.
c.. When you open a folder, it opens in the view you used when you last
viewed it.
When you clear the check box for Remember each folder's view settings, the
following happens:

a.. When you start Windows Explorer, the first folder you view displays in
the folder's saved view. Windows Explorer holds that view in temporary
memory and applies it to all the folders that you visit while Windows
Explorer remains open unless you manually alter the view.
b.. As you browse to other folders (after the initial folder is opened),
the saved view for each folder is ignored, and when you quit Windows
Explorer, the folder view that you have been using to view multiple folders
is deleted from temporary memory.
c.. The next time you open Windows Explorer, once again, it is the saved
view of the first folder you open that determines how you view multiple
folders.
Setting All Folders to the Same View
Some users want to have all their Windows Explorer folders set to the same
view. In Windows 2000 Professional, the default setting is that any change
made to a folder's view is automatically saved when you close the folder and
is not applied to other folders. However, you can set all folders to the
same view by using the Folder Options command as described in the following
procedure.

To set all folders to the same view
1.. In My Computer or Windows Explorer, set the view to your preference.
2.. On the Tools menu, click Folder Options.
3.. In the Folder Options dialog box, click the View tab.
4.. Under Folder Views, click Like Current Folder.
Important The Remember each folder's view settings check box on the View tab
of the Folder Options dialog box (see Figure 9.3) affects how the view
settings of individual folders are applied and saved. For more information
about the impact of clearing this check box, see "Understanding Saved Views
and Browsing Folders" earlier in this chapter.

It's me again not MS

Sometimes windows gets confused and doesn't save settings.

If no settings whatsoever are saved delete (note a reset of settings only
clears one of these keys - one assumes corruption is more likely to be in
the other key)
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam\Bags and
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam\BagMRU

If a few settings are saved then delete this key (this is also the sort for
File Open but file open doesn't change it only reads it)

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer
Shellstate=

Try deleting everything I said above and try again.
 

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