PS3 is NV50 based

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nv55

Playstation 3 graphics processor is going to be based on a custom
version of Nvidia's next generation graphics architecture, the NV50

http://www.newsfactor.com/story.xht...p-on-PlayStation-Graphics-Deal&story_id=28928
http://it.asia1.com.sg/newsdaily/news003_20041209.html
http://www.sanluisobispo.com/mld/sanluisobispo/business/technology/10360877.htm


NV50 aka GeForce 7 is going to make PS3 a graphics monster.

watch out Xbox2 and GCNext, your ATi powered graphics will be pathetic
next to the awesome power of a custom GeForce 7.

nVIDIA's GeForce 7 (NV5x) for PC video cards and for PS3 consoles will
run circles around ATi's r520 PC cards, r500 in Xbox2, whatever ATi
chip powers GCNext and even next, next gen r600 for PCs.
Radeon350 / Xenon and all other fanATIcs..... DIE! ;)
 
X

XtrAvErT

nv55 said:
Playstation 3 graphics processor is going to be based on a custom
version of Nvidia's next generation graphics architecture, the NV50

http://www.newsfactor.com/story.xht...p-on-PlayStation-Graphics-Deal&story_id=28928
http://it.asia1.com.sg/newsdaily/news003_20041209.html
http://www.sanluisobispo.com/mld/sanluisobispo/business/technology/10360877.htm


NV50 aka GeForce 7 is going to make PS3 a graphics monster.

watch out Xbox2 and GCNext, your ATi powered graphics will be pathetic
next to the awesome power of a custom GeForce 7.

nVIDIA's GeForce 7 (NV5x) for PC video cards and for PS3 consoles will
run circles around ATi's r520 PC cards, r500 in Xbox2, whatever ATi
chip powers GCNext and even next, next gen r600 for PCs.
Radeon350 / Xenon and all other fanATIcs..... DIE! ;)

have you stopped fighting the doomed gaystation/ >XBOX troll attempts?
a rat deserting the sinking ship : )
 
Z

Zackman

nv55 said:
Playstation 3 graphics processor is going to be based on a custom
version of Nvidia's next generation graphics architecture, the NV50

Welcome to three weeks ago.
watch out Xbox2 and GCNext, your ATi powered graphics will be pathetic
next to the awesome power of a custom GeForce 7.

You mean like how the X850 is pathetic next to the GeForce 6800? The
technolgoies are neck and neck, dipshit.

You and Xenon are a match made in heaven. Go huff airplane glue behind
someone's shed now.

-Z-
 
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Paul Angstrom

You and Xenon are a match made in heaven. Go huff airplane glue behind
someone's shed now.

"NV55" is the same person as "Xenon" and "Radeon350" despite pretending
not to be.
 
P

Paul Angstrom

Radeon350 / Xenon and all other fanATIcs..... DIE! ;)

You forgot to mention that the list of multiple aliases under which you
litter this newsgroup includes "Radeon350" and "Xenon."

Since you ARE both "Radeon350" and "Xenon," perhaps you should follow
your own advice.
 
D

dvus

Paul said:
"NV55" is the same person as "Xenon" and "Radeon350" despite
pretending not to be.

You sure? I'm no header expert, however I see NV55 and Radeon350 have some
header similarities, but Xenon looks quite different.

dvus
 
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Paul Angstrom

You sure? I'm no header expert, however I see NV55 and Radeon350 have some
header similarities, but Xenon looks quite different.

Yes, I'm 100% sure.

Take another look. NV55, Radeon350, and Xenon are all the same person
despite the attempts at switching aliases.
 
D

dvus

Paul said:
Yes, I'm 100% sure.

Take another look. NV55, Radeon350, and Xenon are all the same person
despite the attempts at switching aliases.

I'll take your word for it.
 
K

Khee Mao

considering that both ATi and nVidia have CURRENT generation parts pushing
1600x1200 displays with all the eye candy turned on and at playable
framerates, and neither regular TVs NOR HDTVs approach 1600x1200 resolution,
I think its safe to say that any next gen console will look absolutely
incredible...hell, the current generation xbox has some incredible looking
games with a "measly" GeForce 3...
 
J

J. Clarke

Khee said:
considering that both ATi and nVidia have CURRENT generation parts pushing
1600x1200 displays with all the eye candy turned on and at playable
framerates, and neither regular TVs NOR HDTVs approach 1600x1200
resolution,

?!?!?!?!?! 1600x1200 is 1,920,000 pixels. 1920x1080 is 2,073,600.
 
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chrisv

J. Clarke said:
?!?!?!?!?! 1600x1200 is 1,920,000 pixels. 1920x1080 is 2,073,600.

Try to actually get an honest 1920x1080, though. No source even
provides that, even IF your display could do it, which almost no
HDTV's can.

Really, 1280x720 HDTV (921,600 pixels) makes the most sense as the
next step. All HDTV's will display this resolution, either natively
or up-res'ed to the display's native resolution. And it should be
plenty good for games, I would think.
 
F

Frank

Try to actually get an honest 1920x1080, though. No source even
provides that, even IF your display could do it, which almost no
HDTV's can.

Really, 1280x720 HDTV (921,600 pixels) makes the most sense as the
next step. All HDTV's will display this resolution, either natively
or up-res'ed to the display's native resolution. And it should be
plenty good for games, I would think.


I have a slightly older Sony Wega (KV36xbr400 I think) and it can't
handle 720p. I had to turn off 720 in the xbox settings because it
wouldn't display properly. So hopefully the next gen systems will
have the option to output 720p or 1080i.
 
F

Frank

Try to actually get an honest 1920x1080, though. No source even
provides that, even IF your display could do it, which almost no
HDTV's can.

Really, 1280x720 HDTV (921,600 pixels) makes the most sense as the
next step. All HDTV's will display this resolution, either natively
or up-res'ed to the display's native resolution. And it should be
plenty good for games, I would think.

Try to actually get an honest 1920x1080, though. No source even
provides that, even IF your display could do it, which almost no
HDTV's can.

Really, 1280x720 HDTV (921,600 pixels) makes the most sense as the
next step. All HDTV's will display this resolution, either natively
or up-res'ed to the display's native resolution. And it should be
plenty good for games, I would think.
 
C

chrisv

Frank said:
I have a slightly older Sony Wega (KV36xbr400 I think) and it can't
handle 720p. I had to turn off 720 in the xbox settings because it
wouldn't display properly.

Hmm... I believe your situation is quite uncommon. Serves you right
for buying a 4:3 "HDTV". 8)
So hopefully the next gen systems will
have the option to output 720p or 1080i.

That would be "nice", to cover corner-cases like yours. Plus, there's
an image-quality advantage to delivering to the display the same
format for which it's optimized. (Although some displays, like plasma
panels, have oddball native resolutions and will always need
conversions.)

One possibility: If they rendered at 960x1080, for display at
1920x1080, it would be very difficult to distinguish from "true" HDTV,
which, best case, might come in at 1440x1080i (or 1280x720p, which is
about as good).
 
F

Frank

Hmm... I believe your situation is quite uncommon. Serves you right
for buying a 4:3 "HDTV". 8)

From what I gather, I think 720 support is fairly rare for TV's of my
generation (about 4 or 5 years old). At the time, I didn't really do
much homework on HDTV's so 720 support never entered my mind. I
bought the TV mainly due to the fantastic picture compared to most of
the other HDTV''s available , especially projection ones, but don't
worry, my next TV will definitely be 16:9 ;)
That would be "nice", to cover corner-cases like yours. Plus, there's
an image-quality advantage to delivering to the display the same
format for which it's optimized. (Although some displays, like plasma
panels, have oddball native resolutions and will always need
conversions.)

One possibility: If they rendered at 960x1080, for display at
1920x1080, it would be very difficult to distinguish from "true" HDTV,
which, best case, might come in at 1440x1080i (or 1280x720p, which is
about as good).

I'm hoping that Sony and MS put some thought into how they support
HDTV, but given that HDTV is still a relatively small percentage of
the market, do you think they'll bother with anything more than 720?
Will the hardware be designed in such a way that HDTV will be "free"
so that developers can include it by default?
 
V

vortex_combaticon

Khee said:
considering that both ATi and nVidia have CURRENT generation parts pushing
1600x1200 displays with all the eye candy turned on and at playable
framerates, and neither regular TVs NOR HDTVs approach 1600x1200 resolution,
I think its safe to say that any next gen console will look absolutely
incredible...hell, the current generation xbox has some incredible looking
games with a "measly" GeForce 3...

ummm... Xbox GPU is closer to a GeForce 4 than GeForce 3. plus the
Xbox GPU has some stuff not even in GeForce 4, that didn't come to the
desktop until GeForceFX
 
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chrisv

Frank said:
I'm hoping that Sony and MS put some thought into how they support
HDTV, but given that HDTV is still a relatively small percentage of
the market, do you think they'll bother with anything more than 720?
Will the hardware be designed in such a way that HDTV will be "free"
so that developers can include it by default?

As I've said, I think that 720p is quite sufficient. The only reason
to fool-around with 1080i would be for compatibility with older sets
like yours that don't support 720p. It's hard to say if it's worth
the cost increase to support both...
 

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