Problems with mixed WIN 2000 and XP Computres

[bgardner]

My network was composed of 2 windows 2000 Pro, 1 Windows 2000 Server,
and 1 Win 98 computers. I had enabled both TCP/IP and net BEUI and
all worked well. All hard drives were shared and all drives were
available to all othe machine.

I recently upgraded so that now I have:
1 Windows 2000 Server
1 Windows 2000 Pro
1 WIndows XP PRO and
1 Windows XP media Center 2005

I stll had Net BEUI on all of the machinens along with TCP/IP. The
problem was I would frequently experience lengthy delays attempting to
access hard drives on the 2000 machinees from the XP machines. Between
2000 machins and XP machines - all appeared to be ok.

On doing some reading, it appears that having both ptoocals is probably
a bad idea and I should really only have TCP/IP. I removed Net BEUI
from all 4 machines and then rebooted them all.

Now what I have is the XP machines share just fine with each other.
The 2000 machine share just fine with each other. But I am having a
hard time getting sharing betweek operating systems.

This is setup as a workgroup and the name of the group is HOME. If I
go to either of the 2000 machine and drill down to HOME and open it up
I see all the other machine but can't access the two XP machines. If I
go to either of the XP machines and drill down through HOME, I only see
the other 2 XP machine.

I don't know how much more information I can provide at this point but
if anyone has any suggestions, or recommendations, or web sites to
check out. Please let me know.

Thanks,
Bob

 

[Chuck]

My network was composed of 2 windows 2000 Pro, 1 Windows 2000 Server,
and 1 Win 98 computers. I had enabled both TCP/IP and net BEUI and
all worked well. All hard drives were shared and all drives were
available to all othe machine.

I recently upgraded so that now I have:
1 Windows 2000 Server
1 Windows 2000 Pro
1 WIndows XP PRO and
1 Windows XP media Center 2005

I stll had Net BEUI on all of the machinens along with TCP/IP. The
problem was I would frequently experience lengthy delays attempting to
access hard drives on the 2000 machinees from the XP machines. Between
2000 machins and XP machines - all appeared to be ok.

On doing some reading, it appears that having both ptoocals is probably
a bad idea and I should really only have TCP/IP. I removed Net BEUI
from all 4 machines and then rebooted them all.

Now what I have is the XP machines share just fine with each other.
The 2000 machine share just fine with each other. But I am having a
hard time getting sharing betweek operating systems.

This is setup as a workgroup and the name of the group is HOME. If I
go to either of the 2000 machine and drill down to HOME and open it up
I see all the other machine but can't access the two XP machines. If I
go to either of the XP machines and drill down through HOME, I only see
the other 2 XP machine.

I don't know how much more information I can provide at this point but
if anyone has any suggestions, or recommendations, or web sites to
check out. Please let me know.

Thanks,
Bob

Bob,

Sounds like a segmented browse domain. What order did you reboot the computers?
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html

Take a look at "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all", from two Windows 2000 and
two Windows XP computers, and diagnose the problem. Read this article, and
linked articles, and follow instructions precisely (download browstat!):
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp

 

[bgardner]

Bob,

Sounds like a segmented browse domain. What order did you reboot the computers?
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html

Take a look at "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all", from two Windows 2000 and
two Windows XP computers, and diagnose the problem. Read this article, and
linked articles, and follow instructions precisely (download browstat!):
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp

Hi Chuck, I think you are on the right track. I got a copy of ipconfig
/all and browstat status from each machine.

I think I'm going to need help understanding them and determining my
next steps. Here goes:

Windows 2000 Server

Windows 2000 IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . :
homecontrol
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . .
.. . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2: Connection-specific DNS
Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet
Adapter(NC100 v2) #2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-20-78-07-F8-E2 DHCP Enabled. .
.. . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . :
192.168.0.12 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.254.0 Default
Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.10 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . .
.. . : 4.2.2.1
4.2.2.2
4.2.2.3


Status for domain HOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{2BDBB8B4-12EF-43F2-9F80-A93EF2F6CCA9}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: HOMECONTROL
Master browser is running build 2195
2 backup servers retrieved from master HOMECONTROL
\\HOMECONTROL
\\COMPAQ
There are 4 servers in domain HOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{2BDBB8B4-12EF-43F2-9F80-A93EF2F6CCA9}
There are 1 domains in domain HOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{2BDBB8B4-12EF-43F2-9F80-A93EF2F6CCA9}

Windows 2000 PRO

Windows 2000 IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : dream
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast IP Routing Enabled. . .
.. . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix
.. :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NETGEAR FA310TX Fast Ethernet
Adapter (NGRPCI)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-A0-CC-42-3D-52 DHCP Enabled. .
.. . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . :
192.168.0.11 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.254.0 Default
Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.10 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . .
.. . : 4.2.2.1
4.2.2.2
4.2.2.3


Status for domain HOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{7CFEA8F5-B198-4606-B07D-2269F469ADBF}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: HOMECONTROL
Master browser is running build 2195
1 backup servers retrieved from master HOMECONTROL
\\HOMECONTROL
There are 2 servers in domain HOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{7CFEA8F5-B198-4606-B07D-2269F469ADBF}
There are 1 domains in domain HOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{7CFEA8F5-B198-4606-B07D-2269F469ADBF}

Windows XP MCE



Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : EMACHINES

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family
Fast Ethernet NIC

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-16-76-BA-3C-E3

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.25

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.10

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 4.2.2.1

4.2.2.2



Status for domain HOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{472C1B25-E08F-42B1-83BC-9D79019BB7B3}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: EMACHINES
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master EMACHINES
\\EMACHINES
There are 2 servers in domain HOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{472C1B25-E08F-42B1-83BC-9D79019BB7B3}
There are 1 domains in domain HOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{472C1B25-E08F-42B1-83BC-9D79019BB7B3}

Windows XP PRO



Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : compaq

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family
Fast Ethernet NIC

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-9F-EF-B7-65

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.15

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.10

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 4.2.2.1

4.2.2.3

4.2.2.2



Status for domain HOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{A1C513FC-28B5-48B5-87AD-26916F555D1C}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: EMACHINES
Could not open key in registry, error = 5 Unable to determine
build of browser master: 5
\\\\EMACHINES . Version:05.01 Flags: 51003 NT POTENTIAL
MASTER
1 backup servers retrieved from master EMACHINES
\\EMACHINES
There are 2 servers in domain HOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{A1C513FC-28B5-48B5-87AD-26916F555D1C}
There are 1 domains in domain HOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{A1C513FC-28B5-48B5-87AD-26916F555D1C}


The Windows 2000 Server, Windows 2000 PRO, and Windows XP MCE run
virtually all of the time. The Windows XP Pro is a laptop Nd is
unplugged or on standby regularly.

Does this provide enough information to help me get started?

Thanks again for all the help.

Bob Gardner

 

[Chuck]

Hi Chuck, I think you are on the right track. I got a copy of ipconfig
/all and browstat status from each machine.

I think I'm going to need help understanding them and determining my
next steps. Here goes:

The Windows 2000 Server, Windows 2000 PRO, and Windows XP MCE run
virtually all of the time. The Windows XP Pro is a laptop Nd is
unplugged or on standby regularly.

Does this provide enough information to help me get started?

Thanks again for all the help.

Bob Gardner

That's a good start, Bob.

The ipconfig logs for all computers are good. All computers are on the
192.168.0.0/24 subnet, and all have compatible Node Type.

The browstat logs are interesting. HomeControl is a good baseline - it sees 4
servers on 1 domain, and has elected itself master browser. Dream sees 2
servers, and recognises HomeControl as the master browser. EMachines sees only
2 servers, and has elected itself master browser. Compaq sees 2 servers, and
recognises EMachines as the master browser.

So you're right - although HomeControl sees 4 servers, Dream, and EMachines /
Compaq, have made 2 separate broadcast domains.

Check that NetBT is consistently Enabled!
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html

And check for personal firewalls, forgotten or misconfigured.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html

Then go thru the rest of the issues in my troubleshooting guide.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html

And if the above get you nowhere, let's see what we get from CPSServ.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/cpsserv-comprehensive-psservice-source.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/cpsserv-comprehensive-psservice-source.html