Problems! *sigh*

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Adrenalin

Yello ... I have a strange dilemma.
I have an Intel P4 Prescott CPU (not that this matters) but anyway
....
It was working fine and i know this is where you ask "What did
you do to it just before it crashed" Well, I don't consider
myself a total newbie to this stuff, I can fix my own PC's normally
but this has me fooled.
All the fans spin, including my graphics card, PSU fan and my CPU fan,
now, that's all that happens! There's no picture on the screen, my
graphics card is fine, my PSU is ok and my memory is ok (I hope)

Anyone?
Specs:

Chaintech Apogee Silver 9PJL2 aka 865PE motherboard
Intel Prescott 3.0Ghz CPU (Socket 478) with HT bla bla
Chaintech 6600GT graphics card (AGP)
and all the rest, hdd, dvgd writer etc etc.
 
T

ToolPackinMama

Adrenalin said:
Yello ... I have a strange dilemma.
I have an Intel P4 Prescott CPU (not that this matters) but anyway
...
It was working fine and i know this is where you ask "What did
you do to it just before it crashed" Well, I don't consider
myself a total newbie to this stuff, I can fix my own PC's normally
but this has me fooled.
All the fans spin, including my graphics card, PSU fan and my CPU fan,
now, that's all that happens! There's no picture on the screen, my
graphics card is fine, my PSU is ok and my memory is ok (I hope)

So, no post? No boot to BIOS?
 
T

Tom Lake

ToolPackinMama said:
Is your monitor caput?

If the monitor was dead, he'd still hear beeps as the CPU went through POST
at least.
If there's not even a flashing cursor on the screen, I'd bet on the CPU
being dead.

Tom Lake
 
J

John Doe

Tom Lake said:
If the monitor was dead, he'd still hear beeps as the CPU went
through POST at least.

Well, I guess that's the question. And whether or not the hard disk
continues working until the Windows startup sound (assuming system
sounds are enabled), in which case it's related to the monitor.
 
N

Nice1

Adrenalin said:
Yello ... I have a strange dilemma.
I have an Intel P4 Prescott CPU (not that this matters) but anyway
..
It was working fine and i know this is where you ask "What did
you do to it just before it crashed" Well, I don't consider
myself a total newbie to this stuff, I can fix my own PC's normally
but this has me fooled.
All the fans spin, including my graphics card, PSU fan and my CPU fan,
now, that's all that happens! There's no picture on the screen, my
graphics card is fine, my PSU is ok and my memory is ok (I hope)

Anyone?
Specs:

Chaintech Apogee Silver 9PJL2 aka 865PE motherboard
Intel Prescott 3.0Ghz CPU (Socket 478) with HT bla bla
Chaintech 6600GT graphics card (AGP)
and all the rest, hdd, dvgd writer etc etc.
It might be your motherboard dead, i say this because that's exactly
what mine was doing, all fans spinning, and no picture, and no beeps, i
got a new motherboard, and used all the things off my old mobo,i.e.
graphics card, psu, cpu, now all is fine, as i said it might be your
mobo, it could also be a number of other things.

Good luck
Nice1
 
A

Adrenalin

Yebo yes. There are no beeps, nothing on the screen, no POST. No bio
screen ... I have replaced the everything except the PSU, mobo an
CPU because i do not have spares ... Everything else was replace
with other working parts and it did the same thing
 
B

BP

Adrenalin said:
Yebo yes. There are no beeps, nothing on the screen, no POST. No bios
screen ... I have replaced the everything except the PSU, mobo and
CPU because i do not have spares ... Everything else was replaced
with other working parts and it did the same thing.

Were you, by chance, using any USB devices just before the crash?
 
J

JimboSlim

How do you know the PSU is Ok?
fan can still whirl and it still be faulty

IF NO POST it is usually the PSU or the motherboard, May be faulty fitted
memory make sure it is all pushed right in

I had same symptoms swapped PSU with my wife's PC and it run Ok went out and
bought a cheap PSU for £15 and alls well that works fine.

PSU seemed OK but one part of it only had failed.
 
E

Ed Medlin

Adrenalin said:
Yebo yes. There are no beeps, nothing on the screen, no POST. No bios
screen ... I have replaced the everything except the PSU, mobo and
CPU because i do not have spares ... Everything else was replaced
with other working parts and it did the same thing.

Those are also symptoms of a faulty PSU.

Ed
 
A

Adrenalin

It could be the PSU yes but what I have done is take another PSU fro
another machine and put it in and it does the same thing, the PSU i
in the PC I am using now to talk to you so it's fine! The onl
difference is that this is a 300W PSU and mine was a 400W. It shoul
still boot with a 300W if I have no DVD Writers plugged in and no hd
right? The one pin on my PSU is brown, from what I have no idea bu
I'm not sure if it was always like that or if it just did that whe
the PC crashed. My memory is ok that I know for a fact. The PC wa
working fine until the day i brought it home from where i had it. Th
CPU fan didn't spin at first and took about 10seconds to star
spinning, the gfx card fan also didn't spin a copule times but the
also worked. Somehow I have this strange feeling it is the PSU bu
how could it be when I have a perfectly working 300W one here and i
does the same thing when I put this one in my machine withou
pulugging in hdd, dvd roms etc, Only bare essentials

This is a great forum by the way. Really nice. Good answers wit
people who at least know what they are talking about. Unlike som
others i have been to ..
I could also test the PSU with a multi meter and stuff i guess ..
 
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Adrenalin

And no I was not using a USB device other then my mouse wwhich wasn'
even plugged in ..
 
J

JAD

have you stripped it down to the boot minimums?
have you dumped the CMOS? reset to defaults?
 
B

Bob M

Adrenalin said:
It could be the PSU yes but what I have done is take another PSU from
another machine and put it in and it does the same thing, the PSU is
in the PC I am using now to talk to you so it's fine! The only
difference is that this is a 300W PSU and mine was a 400W. It should
still boot with a 300W if I have no DVD Writers plugged in and no hdd
right? The one pin on my PSU is brown, from what I have no idea but
I'm not sure if it was always like that or if it just did that when
the PC crashed.



You just answered your own question right here.


My memory is ok that I know for a fact. The PC was
working fine until the day i brought it home from where i had it. The
CPU fan didn't spin at first and took about 10seconds to start
spinning, the gfx card fan also didn't spin a copule times but then
also worked. Somehow I have this strange feeling it is the PSU but
how could it be when I have a perfectly working 300W one here and it
does the same thing when I put this one in my machine without
pulugging in hdd, dvd roms etc, Only bare essentials?

Because the 300w might be a cheap PSU that just won't work with your
system. I don't know because all you say is 300w. You don't mention any
brand name or PSU specs. You need to try a good quality PSU. You've
already stated the old PSU has a brown (proabably burnt) pin.
This is a great forum by the way. Really nice. Good answers with
people who at least know what they are talking about. Unlike some
others i have been to ...
I could also test the PSU with a multi meter and stuff i guess ...

You could. My money is on a bad PSU. Do yourself a favor and buy a
better quality name brand PSU with better specs. Good luck.

Bob
 
S

SteveH

Adrenalin said:
I thank-you guys :) Hopefully next weekend I will be online, with my
own pc ...
I just fix a PC with exactly the same symptoms. Turned out to be faulty psu
AND blown cpu.

SteveH
 
A

Adrenalin

I have done that I think. Plugged in gfx card, mobo connector (d'uh
and yeah, thats it and it didn't want to boot ... I have not yet ese
the cmos but i was thinking of that to ..
 
J

JAD

after reading bobs post, i think you have a fried system/PSU at
least....cpu is questionable if the 'brown' pin is the cpu voltage lead... I
completely mis read that.. i thought you were referring to the 'brown' wire
colored pin, not that it was burned.
 
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John Doe

no said:
I have done that I think. Plugged in gfx card, mobo connector
(d'uh) and yeah, thats it and it didn't want to boot ... I have
not yet eset the cmos but i was thinking of that to ...

Currently, I think your most debilitating problem is lack of
USENET posting skill. Sometimes it's trivial, like JAD's persistent
top posted oftentimes irrelevant replies, but when you need help you
benefit by making yourself clear. Is there some technical reason you
cannot reply after the person you are replying to?

I realize this isn't a shoot from the hip, go with the flow,
spontaneous flailing attempt to offer help. But if your problem
persists, the best thing to do IMO is hunker down and get the basics
right. This probably won't be the last time you need help.

Good luck.
 
D

DaveW

Just because your fans spin up does NOT necessarly mean your PSU is fully
functional. Your system's symptoms sound like either the PSU or the
motherboard has failed. The easiest way to find out which is to replace the
PSU with a known working one of adequate power output. If that doesn't fix
it then it's a dead motherbard.
 

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