prob installing thermaltake heatsink

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Thermaltake Polo 735 rev 2 A2144
I have a p4 processor

instructions
http://www.thermaltake.com/support/installguide/coolers/A2144_Polo735_Rev2.pdf

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I put the 'I Bar' in the heatsink through the center, and can see how
that the clips go over it. but the clips just aren't proper clips. They
are like in that picture.

One side of the clip is a clip like thing - push with thumb type thing.
The other side of the 'clip' is not. The other side doesn't seem to
hook securely onto anything


thanks in advance
 
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Thermaltake Polo 735 rev 2 A2144
I have a p4 processor

instructions
http://www.thermaltake.com/support/installguide/coolers/A2144_Polo735_Rev2.pdf

-
I put the 'I Bar' in the heatsink through the center, and can see how
that the clips go over it. but the clips just aren't proper clips. They
are like in that picture.

One side of the clip is a clip like thing - push with thumb type thing.
The other side of the 'clip' is not. The other side doesn't seem to
hook securely onto anything


thanks in advance
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by the way. that URL is a direct link to a PDF . I see that google
hides the length of the link.
 
Thermaltake Polo 735 rev 2 A2144
I have a p4 processor

instructions
http://www.thermaltake.com/support/installguide/coolers/A2144_Polo735_Rev2.pdf

-
I put the 'I Bar' in the heatsink through the center, and can see how that
the clips go over it. but the clips just aren't proper clips. They are
like in that picture.

One side of the clip is a clip like thing - push with thumb type thing.
The other side of the 'clip' is not. The other side doesn't seem to hook
securely onto anything


thanks in advance
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I wasn't gonna bother but I peeked. Dude those are the instructions in
English with photos and screw like things. Do the non-clip "like thing"
side first then secure the "clip like thing" side.
 
jaster said:
I wasn't gonna bother but I peeked. Dude those are the instructions in
English with photos and screw like things. Do the non-clip "like thing"
side first then secure the "clip like thing" side.
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yeah, then it falls off 'cos the non clip like thing doesn't clip on.
Gravity
Dose anybody here actuall have any experience with this design of
heatsink?

note: note: LHS = left hand side RHS=right hand side

The whole clip thing looks like this

----------------|_ |
|

now what the heck is that RHS of the clip thing meant to clip onto -
without falling off?

I could understand a bit if it was shaped like

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| | |
|

btu unfortunately, The clip thing looks like the former diagram and
gravity prevents that RHS from clipping on.

The LHS is easy, recognizable , common to all clips.

You can do te RHS first, then hold it to prevent gravity taking its
course. Then do the LHS, but gravity will still take its course,
becuase the LHS does nothing to stop the RHS from falling down.
 
yeah, then it falls off 'cos the non clip like thing doesn't clip on.
Gravity
Dose anybody here actuall have any experience with this design of
heatsink?

note: note: LHS = left hand side RHS=right hand side

The whole clip thing looks like this

----------------|_ |
|

now what the heck is that RHS of the clip thing meant to clip onto -
without falling off?

I could understand a bit if it was shaped like

-----------------
| | |
|

btu unfortunately, The clip thing looks like the former diagram and
gravity prevents that RHS from clipping on.

The LHS is easy, recognizable , common to all clips.

You can do te RHS first, then hold it to prevent gravity taking its
course. Then do the LHS, but gravity will still take its course,
becuase the LHS does nothing to stop the RHS from falling down.
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Gravity isn't going to do anything if you install it properly because the
middle of the spring is over the top of the mounting bar and when you push
down on the thumb clip side, and secure it, the entire thing is under
tension due to being bent over the bar.

The 'other side', as you call it, wants to go UP because of the spring
tension but is captured under the frame bracket on that side.

Insert 'the other side' into the frame retention bracket then hinge the
spring down over the bar and press down the thumb clip.
 
David said:
Gravity isn't going to do anything if you install it properly because the
middle of the spring is over the top of the mounting bar and when you push
down on the thumb clip side, and secure it, the entire thing is under
tension due to being bent over the bar.

The 'other side', as you call it, wants to go UP because of the spring
tension but is captured under the frame bracket on that side.

Insert 'the other side' into the frame retention bracket then hinge the
spring down over the bar and press down the thumb clip.
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I think I have some idea of what you're describing, but it's not what I
am seeing.

The bar (instructions call it an I bar) that goes through the heatsink
is not mounted anywhere, it just drops down the to the bottom of the
HSF. That PDF shows it, it doesn't scrwe in anywhere. And there are no
springs
I see that if the 'I bar'(mounting bar?) were somehow screwed in and
perhaps even on a spring, then it'd raise the Clip and provide a
hinge.
But actually, if you look at that PDF, not only is the mouting bar not
scrwed in, - just dropping to the bottom - it is not providing a hinge
for the clip. The clip is parallel with the board.


P4 installation pictures say use 1 "I bar" and 2 clips. (i.e. no
mention of springs or even screws)
It is the other ones like K8 and LGA775 that say use screws and springs
Also, there's nowhere to screw in that "I bar" either + the
instructions picture it not screwed in anywhere.
 
I think I have some idea of what you're describing, but it's not what I
am seeing.

The bar (instructions call it an I bar) that goes through the heatsink
is not mounted anywhere, it just drops down the to the bottom of the
HSF. That PDF shows it, it doesn't scrwe in anywhere. And there are no
springs I see that if the 'I bar'(mounting bar?) were somehow screwed in
and perhaps even on a spring, then it'd raise the Clip and provide a
hinge. But actually, if you look at that PDF, not only is the mouting
bar not scrwed in, - just dropping to the bottom - it is not providing a
hinge for the clip. The clip is parallel with the board.


P4 installation pictures say use 1 "I bar" and 2 clips. (i.e. no
mention of springs or even screws)
It is the other ones like K8 and LGA775 that say use screws and springs
Also, there's nowhere to screw in that "I bar" either + the instructions
picture it not screwed in anywhere.
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Ok. As I read the instructions the I-bar goes through the middle of the
heatsink "V" facing downwards.

One of the 2 clips is attached to one end of the m/b P4 bracket and over
that end of the I-bar then the thumbnail is pressed to secure that clip
at the other end of that side of the m/b P4 bracket. Then do the same
with the other clip to the m/b P4 bracket on the other side.

P4 bracket on motherboard
|| ||
|| ||
-------------


P4 bracket looking down
||-----------|| < clip across here
| |
| |
||-----------|| < clips across here


Clips
[ ]_______


i-bar
------___------
 
I think I have some idea of what you're describing, but it's not what I
am seeing.

The bar (instructions call it an I bar) that goes through the heatsink
is not mounted anywhere, it just drops down the to the bottom of the
HSF. That PDF shows it, it doesn't scrwe in anywhere.
Click to expand...

I didn't say anything about screws so why are you?
And there are no
springs
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The I-bar and clips are 'springs'.
I see that if the 'I bar'(mounting bar?) were somehow screwed in and
perhaps even on a spring, then it'd raise the Clip and provide a
hinge.
But actually, if you look at that PDF, not only is the mouting bar not
scrwed in, - just dropping to the bottom - it is not providing a hinge
for the clip. The clip is parallel with the board.
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Of course it's parallel with the board. It's the 'other end', as you call
it, of the clip that is the hinge point when you install.
P4 installation pictures say use 1 "I bar" and 2 clips. (i.e. no
mention of springs or even screws)
It is the other ones like K8 and LGA775 that say use screws and springs
Also, there's nowhere to screw in that "I bar" either + the
instructions picture it not screwed in anywhere.
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Don't know why you're obsessing about screws.

Anyway, the way it works is the I-bar is across the bottom of the heatsink
and the two clips on both ends push down on it and since the I-Bar is on
top of the heatsink base that sandwiches the base between the I-Bar and the
processor.

The only thing I can figure is you're placing just one clip down at a time
and letting the I-Bar flop down on that side so that it looks like
everything is loose.

Try this. Position the heatsink in the right spot, align the I-Bar, insert
the 'other end' of both spring clips into the retention bracket and push
them both down at the same time with the thumb handle so the I-bar doesn't
flop over to one side or the other.

OOOOOOOOOOOhhhh. Maybe you're putting the I-Bar in upside down. It goes
with the bent middle part DOWN. I.E. with the ends flying UP. It's those UP
ends that the two clips push down on forming the 'spring' action.

clip clip
| |
V V
____ ____
* *
* I-Bar *
* _____________________ *
|===================================| heatsink base
================================================= frame
 
OOOOOOOOOOOhhhh. Maybe you're putting the I-Bar in upside down. It goes
with the bent middle part DOWN. I.E. with the ends flying UP. It's those UP
ends that the two clips push down on forming the 'spring' action.
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thanks! you're right. I have the HSF secured now!

It was suich a hassle just putting that I bar into the HSF.
(unscrewing part of the heatsink, putting it in, screwing it back). I
got it in and hadn't noticed it was V shaped! Then I kept reading I
bar in the instructions and didn't realise it had a V!
But yes, it and was upside down. I got it clipped in now.

I was going to respond sorrowfully, after all the help you've given,
and say that alas the I bar was straight, i.e. an I bar. Then I thought
I better check just to make sure. so I unscrewed the heatsink, removed
it, and lo and behold, it was more like a V bar !

Thanks again, I appreciate all the help
 
jaster said:
On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 08:26:28 -0800, q_q_anonymous thoughtfully wrote:
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Ok. As I read the instructions the I-bar goes through the middle of the
heatsink "V" facing downwards.
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Thank for your help, and the diagrams. Indeed, I hadn't realised I had
the I bar upside down. Infact, I hadn't even realised that the I bar
was a V or U bar. Had I noticed that, I might not have put it in
upside down.

I was so frustrated after having to unscrew the HSF and screwing it
back up to put that I bar in, I hadn't noticed it was V shaped. And
hadn't thought to take it out. I was just glad it was in!!

It was actually a kind of U shaped bar

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|-------------|

as you actually showed. So when it was in the HSF, looking at both
visible ends of it , it really looked like it didn't have a V or U in
it. WHat with it being called an I bar.

Thanks for your help and diagrams. Much appreciated.
 
thanks! you're right. I have the HSF secured now!

It was suich a hassle just putting that I bar into the HSF.
(unscrewing part of the heatsink, putting it in, screwing it back). I
got it in and hadn't noticed it was V shaped! Then I kept reading I
bar in the instructions and didn't realise it had a V!
But yes, it and was upside down. I got it clipped in now.

I was going to respond sorrowfully, after all the help you've given,
and say that alas the I bar was straight, i.e. an I bar. Then I thought
I better check just to make sure. so I unscrewed the heatsink, removed
it, and lo and behold, it was more like a V bar !

Thanks again, I appreciate all the help
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Super duper. Glad ya got it working.
 
Thank for your help, and the diagrams. Indeed, I hadn't realised I had
the I bar upside down. Infact, I hadn't even realised that the I bar was a
V or U bar. Had I noticed that, I might not have put it in upside down.

I was so frustrated after having to unscrew the HSF and screwing it back
up to put that I bar in, I hadn't noticed it was V shaped. And hadn't
thought to take it out. I was just glad it was in!!

It was actually a kind of U shaped bar

-------- -------------
|-------------|

as you actually showed. So when it was in the HSF, looking at both visible
ends of it , it really looked like it didn't have a V or U in it. WHat
with it being called an I bar.

Thanks for your help and diagrams. Much appreciated.
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Glad you got it working with all the replies from everyone.
Have good new year.
 
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