Printers with water resistant inks

A

al

I have an HP Photosmart 3310 all-in-one printer that uses Vivera ink.
Printer is great EXCEPT I find that the slightest moisture will cause the
inks to smear a lot. This is true even many days after the ink has dried.
Are there any newer printers that use a more water resistant type of ink? I
don't expect the inks to be waterproof, just water resistant.
Thanks
 
F

frederick

al said:
I have an HP Photosmart 3310 all-in-one printer that uses Vivera ink.
Printer is great EXCEPT I find that the slightest moisture will cause the
inks to smear a lot. This is true even many days after the ink has dried.
Are there any newer printers that use a more water resistant type of ink? I
don't expect the inks to be waterproof, just water resistant.
Thanks
HP Advanced photo paper is supposed to be water resistant with Vivera inks.
Pigment ink printers (eg HP B9180 / Epson R800 etc - and the newly
announced Kodak printers) give fully waterproof prints on a wide range
of papers.
 
A

Arthur Entlich

HP Vivera inks are designed to provide longevity through the use of
swellable polymer papers, which unfortunately is quite sensitive to
moisture. I believe HP has just released a new faster drying and
supposedly equally archival paper, but haven't heard about the result.

Art
 
B

bessie.gutmann

The Vivera ink in the 3310 is a dye-based ink. When printing things
that are important to you (where you might be able to justify more
expensive paper, instead of just office bond or copy paper), try using
a microporous coated "photo" paper.

Microporous inkjet paper uses an ink-absorption layer of microscopic
particles of various silica or aluminum compounds. This coating
creates its pores that absorb the ink by capillary action, which is
more efficient and faster than the swelling process used in other
coatings.

Usually, any of the "premium" photo papers are microporous, but check
the packaging description to be sure.

Royce Bair
Tips, news, reviews and resources...
http://www.InkjetNEWSandTIPS.com/
 
L

louise

The Vivera ink in the 3310 is a dye-based ink. When printing things
that are important to you (where you might be able to justify more
expensive paper, instead of just office bond or copy paper), try using
a microporous coated "photo" paper.

Microporous inkjet paper uses an ink-absorption layer of microscopic
particles of various silica or aluminum compounds. This coating
creates its pores that absorb the ink by capillary action, which is
more efficient and faster than the swelling process used in other
coatings.

Usually, any of the "premium" photo papers are microporous, but check
the packaging description to be sure.

Royce Bair
Tips, news, reviews and resources...
http://www.InkjetNEWSandTIPS.com/

Would this be true for the Vivera inks in the 8250 as well?

I was under an impression that one had to use HP paper
rather than, for example, an Epson ultra paper.

Louise
 
F

frederick

louise said:
Would this be true for the Vivera inks in the 8250 as well?

I was under an impression that one had to use HP paper rather than, for
example, an Epson ultra paper.

Louise

Yes - except that "fast dry" papers and dye inks are generally a poor
combination for longevity as they suffer from "gas fading". An
exception to this is HP Advanced - which gives reasonable longevity,
fast dry, and water resistance. Epson dye printers also have reasonable
(but not fantastic) fade resistance on Epson branded fast-dry papers.
A "Fast Dry" description is probably a better indicator that the paper
is microporous/ceramic coated/RC than a "Premium" label.
 
M

measekite

frederick said:
Yes - except that "fast dry" papers and dye inks are generally a poor
combination for longevity as they suffer from "gas fading". An
exception to this is HP Advanced - which gives reasonable longevity,
fast dry, and water resistance. Epson dye printers also have
reasonable (but not fantastic) fade resistance on Epson branded
fast-dry papers.
A "Fast Dry" description is probably a better indicator that the paper
is microporous/ceramic coated/RC than a "Premium" label.

I have heard the same thing which is why I bought Ilford Classic Pearl
instead of Ilford Smooth Pearl. However, I have also used Canon Photo
Paper Pro and Epson Premium Glossy along with Epson Heavyweight Matte
and have not experienced any fading in two years where the photos have
been sitting on a desk next to a window.
 

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