printer status -driver update needed

[Guest]

when i install the driver throuth PnP the status is changing from ready to
driver update needed in vista. this problem is seen only if i upgrade XP to
vista. if i install vista directly this problem is not seen.

 

[Cari \(MS-MVP\)]

Make and model of printer?????

 

[Guest]

Toshiba e-sutdio411c

Make and model of printer?????

 

[Cari \(MS-MVP\)]

I can't find any mention of it at the Toshiba website..... perhaps it's not
a US model. If so, which country does it come from.

 

[Guest]

hi cari, im in printer driver developement team of toshiba MFP's. when i do
Point and Print from a toshiba print server the status of printer is getting
changed from ready to driver update needed after some time. this problem is
not seen in XP. and more over this problem will be seen only if we upgrade xp
to vista. do you have any idea why the status changes from ready to driver
update needed?

 

[Alan Morris [MSFT]]

I'll handle this

Check the date stamps on the files on the server. If you have a module that
periodically updates information to the server ( auto configuration?), then
the file set between the server and the client is different and the printer
needs to be updated. On Vista, there is a status change set and user action
is required.

There is a group policy setting to change this to previous OS behavior.

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

 

[Guest]

Dear Allan,

I have the same issue but i canot find the KB article. Please provide us the
url or the location of the setting.

Daniel Pardoen

 

[Guest]

Alan,
can you provide the link from where i can get the information to changing
the group policy for this issue.
and the other doubt is "Driver update needed" issue is seen only if we
UPGRADE xp to vista. if we install vista directly by formatting the hard disc
this problem is not observed.
your have mentioned that by changing the group policies we can over come
this issue.
can you please clarify is this issue a bug in vista when we upgrade xp to
vista or some thing else?

and the other problem is this issue is not seen in x64 machines after
installing vcredist_x64.exe taken form the following link. but even after
installing vcredist_x86.exe on a x86 machine this problem is seen
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...30-4468-4BBC-9673-D6ACABD5D13B&displaylang=en

is there any executable which will change the group policies to previous
version of OS or which will eliminate this issue. if yes can you please
provide the link for the same.

I'll handle this

Check the date stamps on the files on the server. If you have a module that
periodically updates information to the server ( auto configuration?), then
the file set between the server and the client is different and the printer
needs to be updated. On Vista, there is a status change set and user action
is required.

There is a group policy setting to change this to previous OS behavior.

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

hi cari, im in printer driver developement team of toshiba MFP's. when i
do
Point and Print from a toshiba print server the status of printer is
getting
changed from ready to driver update needed after some time. this problem
is
not seen in XP. and more over this problem will be seen only if we upgrade
xp
to vista. do you have any idea why the status changes from ready to driver
update needed?

 

[Alan Morris [MSFT]]

On an upgrade, the printer driver is not retained on the client but the
connection information is retained so the client must get the driver from
the server before it can print, thus the printer is placed in Driver Update
Needed until the client first prints and downloads the driver or right
clicks on the printer and selects update from the menu.

Point and Print Restriction policy in Vista.
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/print/VistaPnPSec.mspx



--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

Alan,
can you provide the link from where i can get the information to changing
the group policy for this issue.
and the other doubt is "Driver update needed" issue is seen only if we
UPGRADE xp to vista. if we install vista directly by formatting the hard
disc
this problem is not observed.
your have mentioned that by changing the group policies we can over come
this issue.
can you please clarify is this issue a bug in vista when we upgrade xp to
vista or some thing else?

and the other problem is this issue is not seen in x64 machines after
installing vcredist_x64.exe taken form the following link. but even after
installing vcredist_x86.exe on a x86 machine this problem is seen.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...30-4468-4BBC-9673-D6ACABD5D13B&displaylang=en

is there any executable which will change the group policies to previous
version of OS or which will eliminate this issue. if yes can you please
provide the link for the same.

I'll handle this

Check the date stamps on the files on the server. If you have a module
that
periodically updates information to the server ( auto configuration?),
then
the file set between the server and the client is different and the
printer
needs to be updated. On Vista, there is a status change set and user
action
is required.

There is a group policy setting to change this to previous OS behavior.

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

hi cari, im in printer driver developement team of toshiba MFP's. when
i
do
Point and Print from a toshiba print server the status of printer is
getting
changed from ready to driver update needed after some time. this
problem
is
not seen in XP. and more over this problem will be seen only if we
upgrade
xp
to vista. do you have any idea why the status changes from ready to
driver
update needed?


:

I can't find any mention of it at the Toshiba website..... perhaps
it's
not
a US model. If so, which country does it come from.
--
Cari (MS-MVP)
Windows Technologies - Printing & Imaging
http://www.coribright.com/windows

Toshiba e-sutdio411c

:

Make and model of printer?????
--
Cari (MS-MVP)
Windows Technologies - Printing & Imaging
http://www.coribright.com/windows

message
when i install the driver throuth PnP the status is changing from
ready
to
driver update needed in vista. this problem is seen only if i
upgrade
XP
to
vista. if i install vista directly this problem is not seen.

 

[Guest]

hi Alan,
the problem is ill upgrade XP to vista and ill clean up all the installed
printer drivers in vista and then do a PnP download. if i click some of the
tabs of downloaded driver such as cofiguration etc then the status changes
from "ready" to "driver updateneeded". this problem is seen only in xp to
upgraded version. this problem is not observed in fresh installation of
vista. plese let me know what could be the reason for this.

On an upgrade, the printer driver is not retained on the client but the
connection information is retained so the client must get the driver from
the server before it can print, thus the printer is placed in Driver Update
Needed until the client first prints and downloads the driver or right
clicks on the printer and selects update from the menu.

Point and Print Restriction policy in Vista.
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/print/VistaPnPSec.mspx



--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

Alan,
can you provide the link from where i can get the information to changing
the group policy for this issue.
and the other doubt is "Driver update needed" issue is seen only if we
UPGRADE xp to vista. if we install vista directly by formatting the hard
disc
this problem is not observed.
your have mentioned that by changing the group policies we can over come
this issue.
can you please clarify is this issue a bug in vista when we upgrade xp to
vista or some thing else?

and the other problem is this issue is not seen in x64 machines after
installing vcredist_x64.exe taken form the following link. but even after
installing vcredist_x86.exe on a x86 machine this problem is seen.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...30-4468-4BBC-9673-D6ACABD5D13B&displaylang=en

is there any executable which will change the group policies to previous
version of OS or which will eliminate this issue. if yes can you please
provide the link for the same.

I'll handle this

Check the date stamps on the files on the server. If you have a module
that
periodically updates information to the server ( auto configuration?),
then
the file set between the server and the client is different and the
printer
needs to be updated. On Vista, there is a status change set and user
action
is required.

There is a group policy setting to change this to previous OS behavior.

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

hi cari, im in printer driver developement team of toshiba MFP's. when
i
do
Point and Print from a toshiba print server the status of printer is
getting
changed from ready to driver update needed after some time. this
problem
is
not seen in XP. and more over this problem will be seen only if we
upgrade
xp
to vista. do you have any idea why the status changes from ready to
driver
update needed?


:

I can't find any mention of it at the Toshiba website..... perhaps
it's
not
a US model. If so, which country does it come from.
--
Cari (MS-MVP)
Windows Technologies - Printing & Imaging
http://www.coribright.com/windows

Toshiba e-sutdio411c

:

Make and model of printer?????
--
Cari (MS-MVP)
Windows Technologies - Printing & Imaging
http://www.coribright.com/windows

message
when i install the driver throuth PnP the status is changing from
ready
to
driver update needed in vista. this problem is seen only if i
upgrade
XP
to
vista. if i install vista directly this problem is not seen.

 

[Alan Morris [MSFT]]

So is this a local printer or a connection to a server?

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

hi Alan,
the problem is ill upgrade XP to vista and ill clean up all the installed
printer drivers in vista and then do a PnP download. if i click some of
the
tabs of downloaded driver such as cofiguration etc then the status changes
from "ready" to "driver updateneeded". this problem is seen only in xp to
upgraded version. this problem is not observed in fresh installation of
vista. plese let me know what could be the reason for this.

On an upgrade, the printer driver is not retained on the client but the
connection information is retained so the client must get the driver from
the server before it can print, thus the printer is placed in Driver
Update
Needed until the client first prints and downloads the driver or right
clicks on the printer and selects update from the menu.

Point and Print Restriction policy in Vista.
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/print/VistaPnPSec.mspx



--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

Alan,
can you provide the link from where i can get the information to
changing
the group policy for this issue.
and the other doubt is "Driver update needed" issue is seen only if we
UPGRADE xp to vista. if we install vista directly by formatting the
hard
disc
this problem is not observed.
your have mentioned that by changing the group policies we can over
come
this issue.
can you please clarify is this issue a bug in vista when we upgrade xp
to
vista or some thing else?

and the other problem is this issue is not seen in x64 machines after
installing vcredist_x64.exe taken form the following link. but even
after
installing vcredist_x86.exe on a x86 machine this problem is seen.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...30-4468-4BBC-9673-D6ACABD5D13B&displaylang=en

is there any executable which will change the group policies to
previous
version of OS or which will eliminate this issue. if yes can you please
provide the link for the same.






:

I'll handle this

Check the date stamps on the files on the server. If you have a
module
that
periodically updates information to the server ( auto configuration?),
then
the file set between the server and the client is different and the
printer
needs to be updated. On Vista, there is a status change set and user
action
is required.

There is a group policy setting to change this to previous OS
behavior.

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

hi cari, im in printer driver developement team of toshiba MFP's.
when
i
do
Point and Print from a toshiba print server the status of printer is
getting
changed from ready to driver update needed after some time. this
problem
is
not seen in XP. and more over this problem will be seen only if we
upgrade
xp
to vista. do you have any idea why the status changes from ready to
driver
update needed?


:

I can't find any mention of it at the Toshiba website..... perhaps
it's
not
a US model. If so, which country does it come from.
--
Cari (MS-MVP)
Windows Technologies - Printing & Imaging
http://www.coribright.com/windows

message
Toshiba e-sutdio411c

:

Make and model of printer?????
--
Cari (MS-MVP)
Windows Technologies - Printing & Imaging
http://www.coribright.com/windows

message
when i install the driver throuth PnP the status is changing
from
ready
to
driver update needed in vista. this problem is seen only if i
upgrade
XP
to
vista. if i install vista directly this problem is not seen.

 

[Guest]

hi morris,
the printer is connected to server. it has been installed with point and
print method.
and one more doubt. as you have mentioned in our earlier discussion about
changing the group policy dont you think its a degrade in vistas performance.
is ther any other alternative solution for this issue.

So is this a local printer or a connection to a server?

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

hi Alan,
the problem is ill upgrade XP to vista and ill clean up all the installed
printer drivers in vista and then do a PnP download. if i click some of
the
tabs of downloaded driver such as cofiguration etc then the status changes
from "ready" to "driver updateneeded". this problem is seen only in xp to
upgraded version. this problem is not observed in fresh installation of
vista. plese let me know what could be the reason for this.

On an upgrade, the printer driver is not retained on the client but the
connection information is retained so the client must get the driver from
the server before it can print, thus the printer is placed in Driver
Update
Needed until the client first prints and downloads the driver or right
clicks on the printer and selects update from the menu.

Point and Print Restriction policy in Vista.
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/print/VistaPnPSec.mspx



--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

Alan,
can you provide the link from where i can get the information to
changing
the group policy for this issue.
and the other doubt is "Driver update needed" issue is seen only if we
UPGRADE xp to vista. if we install vista directly by formatting the
hard
disc
this problem is not observed.
your have mentioned that by changing the group policies we can over
come
this issue.
can you please clarify is this issue a bug in vista when we upgrade xp
to
vista or some thing else?

and the other problem is this issue is not seen in x64 machines after
installing vcredist_x64.exe taken form the following link. but even
after
installing vcredist_x86.exe on a x86 machine this problem is seen.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...30-4468-4BBC-9673-D6ACABD5D13B&displaylang=en

is there any executable which will change the group policies to
previous
version of OS or which will eliminate this issue. if yes can you please
provide the link for the same.






:

I'll handle this

Check the date stamps on the files on the server. If you have a
module
that
periodically updates information to the server ( auto configuration?),
then
the file set between the server and the client is different and the
printer
needs to be updated. On Vista, there is a status change set and user
action
is required.

There is a group policy setting to change this to previous OS
behavior.

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

hi cari, im in printer driver developement team of toshiba MFP's.
when
i
do
Point and Print from a toshiba print server the status of printer is
getting
changed from ready to driver update needed after some time. this
problem
is
not seen in XP. and more over this problem will be seen only if we
upgrade
xp
to vista. do you have any idea why the status changes from ready to
driver
update needed?


:

I can't find any mention of it at the Toshiba website..... perhaps
it's
not
a US model. If so, which country does it come from.
--
Cari (MS-MVP)
Windows Technologies - Printing & Imaging
http://www.coribright.com/windows

message
Toshiba e-sutdio411c

:

Make and model of printer?????
--
Cari (MS-MVP)
Windows Technologies - Printing & Imaging
http://www.coribright.com/windows

message
when i install the driver throuth PnP the status is changing
from
ready
to
driver update needed in vista. this problem is seen only if i
upgrade
XP
to
vista. if i install vista directly this problem is not seen.

 

[Alan Morris [MSFT]]

It requires the user or a Domain administrator to set the proper security on
driver that are loaded from the print server.

Longhorn Server and trusted driver stores but Servers not baked yet but the
client portion is complete

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

hi morris,
the printer is connected to server. it has been installed with point and
print method.
and one more doubt. as you have mentioned in our earlier discussion about
changing the group policy dont you think its a degrade in vistas
performance.
is ther any other alternative solution for this issue.

So is this a local printer or a connection to a server?

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

hi Alan,
the problem is ill upgrade XP to vista and ill clean up all the
installed
printer drivers in vista and then do a PnP download. if i click some of
the
tabs of downloaded driver such as cofiguration etc then the status
changes
from "ready" to "driver updateneeded". this problem is seen only in xp
to
upgraded version. this problem is not observed in fresh installation of
vista. plese let me know what could be the reason for this.

:

On an upgrade, the printer driver is not retained on the client but
the
connection information is retained so the client must get the driver
from
the server before it can print, thus the printer is placed in Driver
Update
Needed until the client first prints and downloads the driver or right
clicks on the printer and selects update from the menu.

Point and Print Restriction policy in Vista.
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/print/VistaPnPSec.mspx



--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

Alan,
can you provide the link from where i can get the information to
changing
the group policy for this issue.
and the other doubt is "Driver update needed" issue is seen only if
we
UPGRADE xp to vista. if we install vista directly by formatting the
hard
disc
this problem is not observed.
your have mentioned that by changing the group policies we can over
come
this issue.
can you please clarify is this issue a bug in vista when we upgrade
xp
to
vista or some thing else?

and the other problem is this issue is not seen in x64 machines
after
installing vcredist_x64.exe taken form the following link. but even
after
installing vcredist_x86.exe on a x86 machine this problem is seen.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...30-4468-4BBC-9673-D6ACABD5D13B&displaylang=en

is there any executable which will change the group policies to
previous
version of OS or which will eliminate this issue. if yes can you
please
provide the link for the same.






:

I'll handle this

Check the date stamps on the files on the server. If you have a
module
that
periodically updates information to the server ( auto
configuration?),
then
the file set between the server and the client is different and the
printer
needs to be updated. On Vista, there is a status change set and
user
action
is required.

There is a group policy setting to change this to previous OS
behavior.

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

message
hi cari, im in printer driver developement team of toshiba MFP's.
when
i
do
Point and Print from a toshiba print server the status of printer
is
getting
changed from ready to driver update needed after some time. this
problem
is
not seen in XP. and more over this problem will be seen only if
we
upgrade
xp
to vista. do you have any idea why the status changes from ready
to
driver
update needed?


:

I can't find any mention of it at the Toshiba website.....
perhaps
it's
not
a US model. If so, which country does it come from.
--
Cari (MS-MVP)
Windows Technologies - Printing & Imaging
http://www.coribright.com/windows

message
Toshiba e-sutdio411c

:

Make and model of printer?????
--
Cari (MS-MVP)
Windows Technologies - Printing & Imaging
http://www.coribright.com/windows

message
when i install the driver throuth PnP the status is
changing
from
ready
to
driver update needed in vista. this problem is seen only if
i
upgrade
XP
to
vista. if i install vista directly this problem is not
seen.

 

[Guest]

hi Alan,
my doubt still remains un cleared. the change in printer status from "ready"
to "Driver update needed" with Point and Print installation is a bug in vista
or not?

It requires the user or a Domain administrator to set the proper security on
driver that are loaded from the print server.

Longhorn Server and trusted driver stores but Servers not baked yet but the
client portion is complete

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

hi morris,
the printer is connected to server. it has been installed with point and
print method.
and one more doubt. as you have mentioned in our earlier discussion about
changing the group policy dont you think its a degrade in vistas
performance.
is ther any other alternative solution for this issue.

So is this a local printer or a connection to a server?

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

hi Alan,
the problem is ill upgrade XP to vista and ill clean up all the
installed
printer drivers in vista and then do a PnP download. if i click some of
the
tabs of downloaded driver such as cofiguration etc then the status
changes
from "ready" to "driver updateneeded". this problem is seen only in xp
to
upgraded version. this problem is not observed in fresh installation of
vista. plese let me know what could be the reason for this.

:

On an upgrade, the printer driver is not retained on the client but
the
connection information is retained so the client must get the driver
from
the server before it can print, thus the printer is placed in Driver
Update
Needed until the client first prints and downloads the driver or right
clicks on the printer and selects update from the menu.

Point and Print Restriction policy in Vista.
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/print/VistaPnPSec.mspx



--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

Alan,
can you provide the link from where i can get the information to
changing
the group policy for this issue.
and the other doubt is "Driver update needed" issue is seen only if
we
UPGRADE xp to vista. if we install vista directly by formatting the
hard
disc
this problem is not observed.
your have mentioned that by changing the group policies we can over
come
this issue.
can you please clarify is this issue a bug in vista when we upgrade
xp
to
vista or some thing else?

and the other problem is this issue is not seen in x64 machines
after
installing vcredist_x64.exe taken form the following link. but even
after
installing vcredist_x86.exe on a x86 machine this problem is seen.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...30-4468-4BBC-9673-D6ACABD5D13B&displaylang=en

is there any executable which will change the group policies to
previous
version of OS or which will eliminate this issue. if yes can you
please
provide the link for the same.






:

I'll handle this

Check the date stamps on the files on the server. If you have a
module
that
periodically updates information to the server ( auto
configuration?),
then
the file set between the server and the client is different and the
printer
needs to be updated. On Vista, there is a status change set and
user
action
is required.

There is a group policy setting to change this to previous OS
behavior.

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

message
hi cari, im in printer driver developement team of toshiba MFP's.
when
i
do
Point and Print from a toshiba print server the status of printer
is
getting
changed from ready to driver update needed after some time. this
problem
is
not seen in XP. and more over this problem will be seen only if
we
upgrade
xp
to vista. do you have any idea why the status changes from ready
to
driver
update needed?


:

I can't find any mention of it at the Toshiba website.....
perhaps
it's
not
a US model. If so, which country does it come from.
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Cari (MS-MVP)
Windows Technologies - Printing & Imaging
http://www.coribright.com/windows

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Toshiba e-sutdio411c

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Make and model of printer?????
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Cari (MS-MVP)
Windows Technologies - Printing & Imaging
http://www.coribright.com/windows

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when i install the driver throuth PnP the status is
changing
from
ready
to
driver update needed in vista. this problem is seen only if
i
upgrade
XP
to
vista. if i install vista directly this problem is not
seen.

 

[Alan Morris [MSFT]]

No if the file set of the driver on the server is different than the file
set on the client, the driver most times must be updated on the client.
Vista requires user interactions for the update, either through the policy
setting to disable the user prompts and warning or by the user when the
select Update Driver.

Compare the driver files on the client and the server
\windows\system32\spool\drivers\[ARCHITECTURE]\3

check the date stamps first then the file version (for dll, exe).

Also verify that the dependent file list is the same on server and client
and the files actually exist on the server. I saw one case where the
dependent files in the list did not exist on the server and the client was
forced into the update state because it did not have the complete file set.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Print\Environments\Windows
NT x86\Drivers\Version-3\Drivername\Dependent Files



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hi Alan,
my doubt still remains un cleared. the change in printer status from
"ready"
to "Driver update needed" with Point and Print installation is a bug in
vista
or not?

It requires the user or a Domain administrator to set the proper security
on
driver that are loaded from the print server.

Longhorn Server and trusted driver stores but Servers not baked yet but
the
client portion is complete

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hi morris,
the printer is connected to server. it has been installed with point
and
print method.
and one more doubt. as you have mentioned in our earlier discussion
about
changing the group policy dont you think its a degrade in vistas
performance.
is ther any other alternative solution for this issue.

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So is this a local printer or a connection to a server?

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hi Alan,
the problem is ill upgrade XP to vista and ill clean up all the
installed
printer drivers in vista and then do a PnP download. if i click some
of
the
tabs of downloaded driver such as cofiguration etc then the status
changes
from "ready" to "driver updateneeded". this problem is seen only in
xp
to
upgraded version. this problem is not observed in fresh installation
of
vista. plese let me know what could be the reason for this.

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On an upgrade, the printer driver is not retained on the client but
the
connection information is retained so the client must get the
driver
from
the server before it can print, thus the printer is placed in
Driver
Update
Needed until the client first prints and downloads the driver or
right
clicks on the printer and selects update from the menu.

Point and Print Restriction policy in Vista.
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/print/VistaPnPSec.mspx



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Alan,
can you provide the link from where i can get the information to
changing
the group policy for this issue.
and the other doubt is "Driver update needed" issue is seen only
if
we
UPGRADE xp to vista. if we install vista directly by formatting
the
hard
disc
this problem is not observed.
your have mentioned that by changing the group policies we can
over
come
this issue.
can you please clarify is this issue a bug in vista when we
upgrade
xp
to
vista or some thing else?

and the other problem is this issue is not seen in x64 machines
after
installing vcredist_x64.exe taken form the following link. but
even
after
installing vcredist_x86.exe on a x86 machine this problem is
seen.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...30-4468-4BBC-9673-D6ACABD5D13B&displaylang=en

is there any executable which will change the group policies to
previous
version of OS or which will eliminate this issue. if yes can you
please
provide the link for the same.






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I'll handle this

Check the date stamps on the files on the server. If you have a
module
that
periodically updates information to the server ( auto
configuration?),
then
the file set between the server and the client is different and
the
printer
needs to be updated. On Vista, there is a status change set and
user
action
is required.

There is a group policy setting to change this to previous OS
behavior.

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Windows Printing Team
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hi cari, im in printer driver developement team of toshiba
MFP's.
when
i
do
Point and Print from a toshiba print server the status of
printer
is
getting
changed from ready to driver update needed after some time.
this
problem
is
not seen in XP. and more over this problem will be seen only
if
we
upgrade
xp
to vista. do you have any idea why the status changes from
ready
to
driver
update needed?


:

I can't find any mention of it at the Toshiba website.....
perhaps
it's
not
a US model. If so, which country does it come from.
--
Cari (MS-MVP)
Windows Technologies - Printing & Imaging
http://www.coribright.com/windows

message
Toshiba e-sutdio411c

:

Make and model of printer?????
--
Cari (MS-MVP)
Windows Technologies - Printing & Imaging
http://www.coribright.com/windows

in
message
when i install the driver throuth PnP the status is
changing
from
ready
to
driver update needed in vista. this problem is seen only
if
i
upgrade
XP
to
vista. if i install vista directly this problem is not
seen.