Previously used page #s should appear in the CTRL-G box.

[Guest]

That way the user can go to them simply by clicking on them. This would be
analogous to jumping around files using Alt-Tab. It’s useful to be able
“toggle†among a few locations in a document. (Note—perhaps the list of
previous page numbers should include pages that were jumped to by bookmarks,
etc., as well.)

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[Jezebel]

Shift-F5.

 

[Jezebel]

Shift-F5.

 

[Guest]

Aha!
But that doesn't give me the option to go to more than one spot, the way the
Alt-Tab menu allows. I'd sometimes like to cycle around three or four spots.
But thanks again for the info. (That should help with recovering from
accidental transfers to the start or end of the document, something else I
requested help for elsewhere in this batch of suggestions.)

 

[Guest]

Aha!
But that doesn't give me the option to go to more than one spot, the way the
Alt-Tab menu allows. I'd sometimes like to cycle around three or four spots.
But thanks again for the info. (That should help with recovering from
accidental transfers to the start or end of the document, something else I
requested help for elsewhere in this batch of suggestions.)

 

[Pat Garard]

Are you a TROLL PolyRoll?

 

[Pat Garard]

Are you a TROLL PolyRoll?

 

[Jezebel]

Yes it does: press it repeatedly. Has it ever occurred to you to read Help,
rather than just posting inane questions for all the things you've never
taken the trouble to find out how to do?

 

[Jezebel]

Yes it does: press it repeatedly. Has it ever occurred to you to read Help,
rather than just posting inane questions for all the things you've never
taken the trouble to find out how to do?

 

[Guest]

Help states, "Microsoft Word keeps track of the last three locations where
you typed or edited text." And it suggests using Shift+F5 to access that
power.

I do usually use Help. This is a rare visit here by me, and what I've posted
haven't been questions but suggestions. The inanities in these threads (with
one exception) haven't been mine.

Despite the availability of Shift-F5, I think my suggestion is a good one.
First, there might be half a dozen locations within a large document (I'm
working on a hundred-pager at the moment) that I might be regularly
visitng--in some cases I mightn't have entered text there on my last visit
(via Ctrl-G), but just checked what was written. (So shift-F5 wouldn't have
made note of it, but Ctrl-G would have.) It would be convenient to be able to
have access to Word's memory bank of more than three locations.

Second, I'm not yet mostly a keyboard-shortcut user--and many people are
not. I read pages 40-42 of the Word Inside Out guide and realized I'd only
remember half of them. Since I'm in the habit of using Ctrl-G to navigate the
document, it's more intuitive for me, and I suspect for other users like me,
to be able to "do it all" within our present mode of working, and not have to
switch modes.

I think it wouldn't be an imposition on MS to incorporate this feature,
since there is free real estate at the right spot in the box and page numbers
wouldn't take much space.

 

[Guest]

Help states, "Microsoft Word keeps track of the last three locations where
you typed or edited text." And it suggests using Shift+F5 to access that
power.

I do usually use Help. This is a rare visit here by me, and what I've posted
haven't been questions but suggestions. The inanities in these threads (with
one exception) haven't been mine.

Despite the availability of Shift-F5, I think my suggestion is a good one.
First, there might be half a dozen locations within a large document (I'm
working on a hundred-pager at the moment) that I might be regularly
visitng--in some cases I mightn't have entered text there on my last visit
(via Ctrl-G), but just checked what was written. (So shift-F5 wouldn't have
made note of it, but Ctrl-G would have.) It would be convenient to be able to
have access to Word's memory bank of more than three locations.

Second, I'm not yet mostly a keyboard-shortcut user--and many people are
not. I read pages 40-42 of the Word Inside Out guide and realized I'd only
remember half of them. Since I'm in the habit of using Ctrl-G to navigate the
document, it's more intuitive for me, and I suspect for other users like me,
to be able to "do it all" within our present mode of working, and not have to
switch modes.

I think it wouldn't be an imposition on MS to incorporate this feature,
since there is free real estate at the right spot in the box and page numbers
wouldn't take much space.

 

[Patrick Schmid]

I think it wouldn't be an imposition on MS to incorporate this
feature,

since there is free real estate at the right spot in the box and page numbers
wouldn't take much space.

Look at Office 2007. Microsoft changed the user interface extremely
radically. Most of your suggestions are probably outdated with this new
interface.

Patrick Schmid

 

[Patrick Schmid]

I think it wouldn't be an imposition on MS to incorporate this
feature,

since there is free real estate at the right spot in the box and page numbers
wouldn't take much space.

Look at Office 2007. Microsoft changed the user interface extremely
radically. Most of your suggestions are probably outdated with this new
interface.

Patrick Schmid

 

[Guest]

Great--"Just in time to miss the boat!" (I've read the very positive
comments on the interface in Office 2007 in the latest "PC World" and look
forward to it.)

But it's possible that a few of my suggestions haven't been "overtaken by
events," in which case I hope MS will consider them.

 

[Guest]

Great--"Just in time to miss the boat!" (I've read the very positive
comments on the interface in Office 2007 in the latest "PC World" and look
forward to it.)

But it's possible that a few of my suggestions haven't been "overtaken by
events," in which case I hope MS will consider them.

 

[Patrick Schmid]

If you really want to have an impact on Office 2007, then you should get
the beta version (preferably on another computer as betas shouldn't be
installed on a production machine). Once you have it, install the send a
smile tool and send frowns on your issues to MS. Everything you send via
this tool will be read by the Office beta team. I honestly doubt that
suggestions you submit here will have any influence on Office 2007. For
more info about the tool and how the feedback is used, see
http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh/archive/2006/06/23/644160.aspx
Btw, I did look at your suggestions in Word 2007. I couldn't find any
changes on top of what you have already been told was incorporated into
2003.
In terms of submitting different threads or not: It is better to submit
different threads if the issues are different. In your case, it would
have made sense to group all the once related to the insert bookmark
dialog and all the ones related to the go to dialog. Or, alternatively,
if you wanted to use separate threads, then they should have been truly
separate. That means, someone should have been able to read one post and
get the entire context. You posted one sentence suggestions that even
started in the subject line without giving any context. A good
suggestion contains the full suggestion and context as well as a
statement why this would be better than the current behavior. 13 one
sentence suggestions that are based on the assumption that the person
reading them reads all the others as well just isn't well received by
the volunteers reading and replying here. In addition, Microsoft will
probably discard them because they are not detailed enough, nor give any
motivation/rationale for the change. If you use the Send-A-Smile tool
after you installed 2007, I would highly suggest to send detailed
suggestions with a long explanation as to why you would like to see
those changes. Simply keep in mind that what seems obvious to you, is
probably not obvious at all to the person reading your suggestion.

Patrick Schmid

 

[Patrick Schmid]

If you really want to have an impact on Office 2007, then you should get
the beta version (preferably on another computer as betas shouldn't be
installed on a production machine). Once you have it, install the send a
smile tool and send frowns on your issues to MS. Everything you send via
this tool will be read by the Office beta team. I honestly doubt that
suggestions you submit here will have any influence on Office 2007. For
more info about the tool and how the feedback is used, see
http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh/archive/2006/06/23/644160.aspx
Btw, I did look at your suggestions in Word 2007. I couldn't find any
changes on top of what you have already been told was incorporated into
2003.
In terms of submitting different threads or not: It is better to submit
different threads if the issues are different. In your case, it would
have made sense to group all the once related to the insert bookmark
dialog and all the ones related to the go to dialog. Or, alternatively,
if you wanted to use separate threads, then they should have been truly
separate. That means, someone should have been able to read one post and
get the entire context. You posted one sentence suggestions that even
started in the subject line without giving any context. A good
suggestion contains the full suggestion and context as well as a
statement why this would be better than the current behavior. 13 one
sentence suggestions that are based on the assumption that the person
reading them reads all the others as well just isn't well received by
the volunteers reading and replying here. In addition, Microsoft will
probably discard them because they are not detailed enough, nor give any
motivation/rationale for the change. If you use the Send-A-Smile tool
after you installed 2007, I would highly suggest to send detailed
suggestions with a long explanation as to why you would like to see
those changes. Simply keep in mind that what seems obvious to you, is
probably not obvious at all to the person reading your suggestion.

Patrick Schmid

 

[Guest]

You (Patrick Schmid) wrote, “if you wanted to use separate threads, then they
should have been truly separate. That means, someone should have been able to
read one post and get the entire context.â€

But they can get the entire context from each. Here are nine of my first ten
suggestions (omitting #5, a blooper). All of them are self-contained and
self-explanatory:

1. I should be able to edit a Bookmark’s name.
2. Add a warning to Insert Bookmark that spaces are not allowed.
3. The Insert Bookmark box shouldn’t disappear after adding a bookmark. I
sometimes want to add lots of bookmarks at once.
4. I’d like to exit the Insert Bookmark box [clarification: after I’ve
started to create a bookmark name] and then return.
6. I’d like bookmarks in Go To in order of Location. I.e., there should be
an option to select the preferred arrangement, similar to the two options in
Insert Bookmark.
7. In Go To, clicking Page [in the left-hand box] should move the cursor to
page-number [in the right-hand box].
8. The Go To box shouldn’t open with only one bookmark item showing.
9. Go To’s drop-down menu of bookmark items should be larger.
10. I’d like a button to jump to the end of Go To’s bookmark menu.

You (Patrick Schmid) wrote, “A good suggestion contains the full suggestion
and context as well as a statement why this would be better than the current
behavior. … Microsoft will probably discard them because they are not
detailed enough, nor give any motivation/rationale for the change.â€

I disagree. An elaborate justification is needed only when heading into
unknown territory, or when proposing an expensive or disruptive change. What
I’ve suggested here are just ideas for smoothing over a few rough patches.
One or two additional sentences of justification (which I’ve provided in all
cases) should be enough to explain why these changes would be beneficial. I’d
feel presumptuous in trying to “sell†such minor features. It would imply
that my audience was rather dense. MS’s teams are the experts and are much
more able than I to decide what would be useful to the majority of users, and
how tough each would be to implement. A word to the wise should be
sufficient. (And also, it’s arguable whether certain features I’ve suggested
actually would be welcomed by a majority of users. I’d feel presumptuous
tearing a passion to tatters in favor of a change, just because I personally
would benefit from it.)

 

[Guest]

You (Patrick Schmid) wrote, “if you wanted to use separate threads, then they
should have been truly separate. That means, someone should have been able to
read one post and get the entire context.â€

But they can get the entire context from each. Here are nine of my first ten
suggestions (omitting #5, a blooper). All of them are self-contained and
self-explanatory:

1. I should be able to edit a Bookmark’s name.
2. Add a warning to Insert Bookmark that spaces are not allowed.
3. The Insert Bookmark box shouldn’t disappear after adding a bookmark. I
sometimes want to add lots of bookmarks at once.
4. I’d like to exit the Insert Bookmark box [clarification: after I’ve
started to create a bookmark name] and then return.
6. I’d like bookmarks in Go To in order of Location. I.e., there should be
an option to select the preferred arrangement, similar to the two options in
Insert Bookmark.
7. In Go To, clicking Page [in the left-hand box] should move the cursor to
page-number [in the right-hand box].
8. The Go To box shouldn’t open with only one bookmark item showing.
9. Go To’s drop-down menu of bookmark items should be larger.
10. I’d like a button to jump to the end of Go To’s bookmark menu.

You (Patrick Schmid) wrote, “A good suggestion contains the full suggestion
and context as well as a statement why this would be better than the current
behavior. … Microsoft will probably discard them because they are not
detailed enough, nor give any motivation/rationale for the change.â€

I disagree. An elaborate justification is needed only when heading into
unknown territory, or when proposing an expensive or disruptive change. What
I’ve suggested here are just ideas for smoothing over a few rough patches.
One or two additional sentences of justification (which I’ve provided in all
cases) should be enough to explain why these changes would be beneficial. I’d
feel presumptuous in trying to “sell†such minor features. It would imply
that my audience was rather dense. MS’s teams are the experts and are much
more able than I to decide what would be useful to the majority of users, and
how tough each would be to implement. A word to the wise should be
sufficient. (And also, it’s arguable whether certain features I’ve suggested
actually would be welcomed by a majority of users. I’d feel presumptuous
tearing a passion to tatters in favor of a change, just because I personally
would benefit from it.)

 

[Patrick Schmid]

I should just drop this thread, because you apparently don't take any
suggestion from an experienced Office beta tester on how to best
communicate your suggestions to Microsoft.

The following are the most obvious shortcomings of your suggestions:

1. I should be able to edit a Bookmark's name. Why?

2. Add a warning to Insert Bookmark that spaces are not allowed. Why?

3. The Insert Bookmark box shouldn't disappear after adding a bookmark. I
sometimes want to add lots of bookmarks at once.

Why is bringing the bookmark dialog back up not a sufficient workaround
for you?

4. I'd like to exit the Insert Bookmark box [clarification: after I've
started to create a bookmark name] and then return.

Meaning? How would you like it to return? What is the disadvantage of
the current way it works?

6. I'd like bookmarks in Go To in order of Location. I.e., there should be
an option to select the preferred arrangement, similar to the two options in
Insert Bookmark. Why?

7. In Go To, clicking Page [in the left-hand box] should move the cursor to
page-number [in the right-hand box]. Why?

8. The Go To box shouldn't open with only one bookmark item showing. Why?

9. Go To's drop-down menu of bookmark items should be larger. Why?

10. I'd like a button to jump to the end of Go To's bookmark menu. Why?

You (Patrick Schmid) wrote, "A good suggestion contains the full suggestion
and context as well as a statement why this would be better than the current
behavior. . Microsoft will probably discard them because they are not
detailed enough, nor give any motivation/rationale for the change."

I disagree. An elaborate justification is needed only when heading into
unknown territory, or when proposing an expensive or disruptive change. What
I've suggested here are just ideas for smoothing over a few rough patches.
One or two additional sentences of justification (which I've provided in all
cases) should be enough to explain why these changes would be beneficial. I'd
feel presumptuous in trying to "sell" such minor features. It would imply
that my audience was rather dense. MS's teams are the experts and are much
more able than I to decide what would be useful to the majority of users, and
how tough each would be to implement. A word to the wise should be
sufficient. (And also, it's arguable whether certain features I've suggested
actually would be welcomed by a majority of users. I'd feel presumptuous
tearing a passion to tatters in favor of a change, just because I personally
would benefit from it.)

I honestly don't care whether you agree or not. I was trying to be
helpful and explain to you what you need to do if you want your
suggestions to have any chance of success. Believe it or not, but a user
needs to sell the tiniest change to the MS Office team. Even things that
are totally obvious to a user and should be a no-brainer to fix. For
example, Outlook 2007 has a dialog where you can enter the address of an
RSS feed. If you accidentally put a blank before the address, the RSS
feed addition will fail. The fix for this is rather simple and to me
this seems to be an obvious one. Yet despite me trying to sell it as
best as I could, MS decided not to fix it.
Any change you propose costs money and MS has limited resources that
they apply selectively. Any suggestion you propose, no matter how small,
is in competition for those limited resources with a lot of other
suggestions and bug fixes. That's why you get messages here from MVPs
who have been complaining about a certain lacking feature (often times a
small one) for several Office versions, but still haven't gotten it
fixed.

So, take my advice or keep assuming that you are the know-it-all about
how to best communicate your wishes. I personally don't care whether
your suggestions ever make it into Word or not. So please keep
submitting suggestions that look like somebody was just too lazy to do a
good job. You make it easy for Microsoft, as all they have to do is hit
delete.

Patrick Schmid