Powerpoint 2003 Grayscale View

[Guest]

I have not been able to change the color of fills in the grayscale or pure
black and white views. If a fill is white in the color view, it remains white
after going through the process to change the grayscale or black and white so
the slide will print correctly. This process worked in Powerpoint 2000, but
appears to be broken in Powerpoint 2003. Does anybody know how to do this or
has anybody experienced this problem?

 

[Bill Dilworth]

Hi Dean,

Works on PowerPoint 2003 here. Just to be sure, you are selecting View |
Color/Grayscale | Grayscale, correct?

Then when you right click on an object and select Grayscale setting, what
happens?


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[Sonia]

I must not understand the question because white should be white in grayscale,
and in black and white. Also, I get the same results in PowerPoint 2000 and
2003. Can you describe what PowerPoint 2000 displays when a view is set to
grayscale and the objects are white, or what you want to display in PowerPoint
2003?

 

[Guest]

I have imported a Visio diagram into Powerpoint 2003. I choose "Format
Object", "Picture", "Recolor", "Fills". The original diagram was black on
white, but I need for it to be white on blue. If I choose a color (for the
fill) and change it to orange, for example, and then choose
"Color/Grayscale", "Grayscale", the orange fill color is present on the
grayscale diagram. (I would not expect to see a color in the grayscale view.)
If I check the grayscale color setting, it is black. It needs to be black (or
something close to black) to print properly. This file had previously been
edited in Powerpoint 2000 and everything showed correctly. Before changing
any colors, if I load the exact file into Powerpoint 2000, it displays
correctly in the grayscale view, but not in the grayscale view in Powerpoint
2003.

 

[Sonia]

Have you applied Service Pack 1 to Office 2003? If not, go to Help > Check for
Updates and follow the links labeled Check for Updates.

If you've already done that, have you checked recently for an updated driver for
your video card?

Drivers and such?
http://www.rdpslides.com/pptfaq/FAQ00029.htm

I'm not seeing any difference between PowerPoint 2000 and 2003 here, so I'm
hoping that one of the above will fix the issue for you.

 

[Guest]

Yes, I have service pack 1.
Why would a video card problem affect the printing? If it would print
corrctly, I wouldn't care about whether it showed on the screen or not.

I've downloaded the latest updates from the Windows Update site already.

 

[Sonia]

I'm focusing on the display because I can't replicate it here. I'm thinking
that the display is not what you want but the printer is just printing what
PowerPoint sends it. I'll have to think on it more and hope in the meantime
someone else cracks it.

 

[lost]

i think he is talking about the greyscale view in ppt2002/03 not acutally
working as it us to in 2000
to replicate his problem
its the old ppt2000 send to word in greyscale view appears in word greyscale
works but
ppt2002/03 send to word in greyscale view appears in color

remember this is only a "View"
Maybe the mvps can clarify if it was a bug in 2000 that the "view" actally
changed it or if it is a bug in 2002/03 or if it was fixed in 2002/03 so the
view is acutally a view and not a change.

remember it says " view " not format or change or anything

lost?

 

[Sonia]

Ah, yes, that rings a bell. I believe that Microsoft told us it was a bug or
fluke in PowerPoint 2000 and was "fixed" in PowerPoint 2002 and 2003. I know
that many people who create books and training manuals were not happy. I can't
even replicate it on my system because although I have PowerPoint 2000
installed, I only have Word 2003 installed. When I view in grayscale in
PowerPoint 2000 and send to Word (2003) it arrives in color.

I'm sure that Echo will remember the details. She is traveling on business, but
may see this in the next few days.

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

That's a bingo. And boy was Echo honked off.

PPT2000 sent everything to Word in grayscale if you were in b/w view but as
Sonia recollects, they fixed it in 2002. In the veterinary sense, I guess. ;-)

i think he is talking about the greyscale view in ppt2002/03 not acutally
working as it us to in 2000
to replicate his problem
its the old ppt2000 send to word in greyscale view appears in word greyscale
works but
ppt2002/03 send to word in greyscale view appears in color

remember this is only a "View"
Maybe the mvps can clarify if it was a bug in 2000 that the "view" actally
changed it or if it is a bug in 2002/03 or if it was fixed in 2002/03 so the
view is acutally a view and not a change.

remember it says " view " not format or change or anything

lost?

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[Echo S]

It depends on which view you send to word from in PPT 2000, Sonia. Doesn't
matter that you've got Word 2003. If you Send to Word in B/W normal view,
you'll get B/W. If you send from slide sorter view, you'll get color.

But yes, in PPT 2002 and 2003, you get color no matter what. And it sucks.
And it's causing me all kinds of grief lately -- even more than usual,
grrrr.

http://www.echosvoice.com/gotchas.htm (It's under Save as B/W Image and Send
to Word, but I just realized the links on that page are mostly broken. Poop.
And I also realized that I need to say specifically that Send to Word is
included in that "save as B/W image" section -- it's basically the same
problem.)

 

[Echo S]

That's a bingo. And boy was Echo honked off.

*Was*??? <g>

Echo

 

[Guest]

Thanks to all who responded. It looks like the Powerpoint 2000 with a bug
worked the way I need it to work while the fixed version doesn't. How's that
for progress? I can fix the problem by having two copies of the presentation
- one for display and one for printing. No matter what anybody thinks, when I
go to a grayscale view, all of my diagram should be shown in grayscale. There
should not be any color there. Whoever "fixed" the bug needs to fix it again
and try to get it right this time.