Post Diagnostic software Tool for Windows XP

[Guest]

Other than Windows support tools as they appear to not function at the point
that my computer hangs up. Does Microsoft have a Post Diagnostic Software
Tool that I can download that will give to me some clues as to what is going
wrong. It would be also useful if the same tool would also operate after
window XP has booted up and fully installed itself.
How come service Pack two has so many problems once installed with Windows
XP Home Edition such as I am using on my Tulip Vision Line md Computer and
252 MB RAM. I have Service Pack 2 on CD. But rather than install it from CD.
I have installed it from the Internet. Still no change there.
Is Microsoft bringing out any newer OEM on CD ROM based operating system
that will hopefully have fewer problems than Windows XP and all the service
packs do is make the apparent problems it appears to be suffering from many
times worse with what appear to be no apparent remedies. You repair one
problem and then something else appears to go haywire

 

[pjp]

The problems are only going to get worse until MS reaches the point that the
only software on your system is "stubs" that when invoked simply download
the "current" version onto your system.

I truly believe "MS/Bill"'s long-term intent is to slowly reach a state
where your OS is little more than a shell with most apps being downloaded
real-time as required ... at a fee for every use of course.

You can slowly see this happening as the "start the scam" of justifying
enforcing "Windows Update" etc. etc. is happening now using the excuse of
battling online virus', spyware, trojans etc. etc. They'll increasingly
justify more constraints and controls using this as the excuse for
"neccessary" changes in how we use our computers. There'll be little debate
that the real cause is their fundamental design.

Given that scenario, they have no real interest in creating an OS that
actually reliably works. This has been evident ever since Win95 (if not
earlier) when they decided that the best design was to bundle everything
including the kitchen sink into the OS.

Any idiot should be able to see that's not in "our" best interest.

 

[Richard Urban]

Seeing as how you did not explain precisely what your problem is, and seeing
as how you seem to be plagued by multiple problems, I suggest you take your
computer to a paid professional and allow them to repair it. You are in over
your head here.

What you are asking for comes from many years of experience from trouble
shooting many computers with similar/like problems. It isn't learned
overnight, or in a month or even in a year. Nor is there software that will
tell you exactly what is causing the problem. If there was, there would not
be a need for paid professionals.

Thank god we all maintain our jobs (-:

Now, if you would care to detail what your problem is, someone here is sure
to help you.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

 

[Ron Martell]

Other than Windows support tools as they appear to not function at the point
that my computer hangs up. Does Microsoft have a Post Diagnostic Software
Tool that I can download that will give to me some clues as to what is going
wrong. It would be also useful if the same tool would also operate after
window XP has booted up and fully installed itself.

POST usually means Power On Self Test which is a function of the
computer's BIOS and has zero to do with Windows

How come service Pack two has so many problems once installed with Windows
XP Home Edition such as I am using on my Tulip Vision Line md Computer and
252 MB RAM. I have Service Pack 2 on CD. But rather than install it from CD.
I have installed it from the Internet. Still no change there.

As a general rule installing Service Pack 2 from the CD has been more
problem free than installing from Windows Update.

Is Microsoft bringing out any newer OEM on CD ROM based operating system
that will hopefully have fewer problems than Windows XP and all the service
packs do is make the apparent problems it appears to be suffering from many
times worse with what appear to be no apparent remedies. You repair one
problem and then something else appears to go haywire

If you could describe at least some of the specific problems you are
experiencing, including the complete text of any associated error
messages, then it should be possible to help you to resolve these
issues. Service Pack 2 has been installed without difficulty on
millions of computers, but there have been some instances of problems
such as you seem to be experiencing.

Good luck


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
http://aumha.org/alex.htm

 

[Guest]

Hi,

Thank you for that, To me Windows 98 2nd edition appeared to work relatively
well indeed. I often feel that Microsoft should have kept this good operating
system in some respects and elaborated on it and made it better. Microsoft
had other ideas, It appeared not to be happy with the fact that it most
likely in all fairness to its abilities attract the highest skilled software
writers and programmers with its most probably best paid salaries around if
they could most likely show excellence in the field that they were employed
within and it headed off for an even bigger slice of the open market and
build an operating system that required a whole new kind of computer in the
way it installed the operating system or environment variables and in turn
how it saw and dealt with that whole breed of new software that had to be
manufactured to be compatible with this operating environment. I would have
said a very good marketing ploy that made Microsoft an even bigger giant in
the Market place than it really already was. They used excellent marketing
technique and know how to bounce the ball of the wall and watch it grow
bigger with each new bounce that it took, until I beleive the country that Mr
Bill gates resides within said we feel you are to big for your own good or
ours for that matter of fact and we will try and split you up or cut you down
to size.
I beleive that Microsoft wanted to download their operating systems at one
point because of the threat of theft, except it appeared that from the other
side of the world that fiction became fact for them as their own file servers
as i remember it being reported somewhere that they were broken into and a
lot of very highly valueable source code for a whole new breed of software
was stolen. So much for them trying to grasp the whole Market for themselves
and make us slaves to downloading in some respects to what your mail
suggests, except in the real world where we suffer real theft and we suffer.
This fat cat wanted to become even fatter. The Whole wide World said no and
if Microsoft had gone ahead with that plan it would most likely would be a
much smaller organisation now than it could ever envisage because the World
would find an equally good operating environment from somewhere else. Their
are much better Operating systems on the Market than Microsoft. The only
reason that Microsoft looks so good is because it has a bigger and better
slice of the market and to coin a phrase very well indeed which they have put
into practice for a very long time, In: "What glistens to the eye, Deceives
the Mind". and all those new operating systems are Paper Mache of producing
what first came out in Windows 95 to work and operate in a better way. What
you are getting now is no better than 95 first edition. It is just dressed up
to look different and behave differently. It is still the old DOS Environment
operating underneath with a front page that looks and is given the feel of
looking fantastic.

If you have to recover XP from the CD. You end up back down to the basics of
Dosshell as it used to run when windows 3.0 first came into the Market pace.
It has not changed. It is just Dosshell. and instead of typing Dosshell. You
type "HELP!. That is what should be written on all of their software with a
Government backed Warning of all of the Countries that it is used within or
state boundaries that it is sold across. Bill Gates and his entire team is
not building newer and better software. He is just embelishing older rubbish
and I beleive it reached its sold by date after Windows 95 and it is about
time we had a operating system that is clean cut and can virtually think for
itself. We are supposed to be in a World of Virtual Reality. Where is his
abilities or do they really lie in the fact that he can not harnass virtual
reality and put it to work for the whole of human kind rather than this DOS
and Windows rubbish. It is well past its sell by date.

The day that they try and sell their software and updates over the Internet,
That is the day that Microsoft will spell their doom and final destruction.
They are not the kind of establishment that builds an operating system that
behaves like a an Internet Virus protection organisation that has to have
updates on a continuous basis. The day they go all out for the idea of doing
that, and they are trying it already as in what appears in reality to be
taking place here bit by bit. That will be their untimely end and perharps
it is time that came about and someone else took over

 

[Treeman]

"William" (e-mail address removed) wrote:
-
Other than Windows support tools as they appear to not function at th
point
that my computer hangs up. Does Microsoft have a Post Diagnosti
Software
Tool that I can download that will give to me some clues as to what i
going
wrong. It would be also useful if the same tool would also operat
after
window XP has booted up and fully installed itself.-

POST usually means Power On Self Test which is a function of the
computer's BIOS and has zero to do with Windows

-
How come service Pack two has so many problems once installed wit
Windows
XP Home Edition such as I am using on my Tulip Vision Line md Compute
and
252 MB RAM. I have Service Pack 2 on CD. But rather than install i
from CD.
I have installed it from the Internet. Still no change there.-

As a general rule installing Service Pack 2 from the CD has been more
problem free than installing from Windows Update.

-
Is Microsoft bringing out any newer OEM on CD ROM based operatin
system
that will hopefully have fewer problems than Windows XP and all th
service
packs do is make the apparent problems it appears to be suffering fro
many
times worse with what appear to be no apparent remedies. You repai
one
problem and then something else appears to go haywire-

If you could describe at least some of the specific problems you are
experiencing, including the complete text of any associated error
messages, then it should be possible to help you to resolve these
issues. Service Pack 2 has been installed without difficulty on
millions of computers, but there have been some instances of problems
such as you seem to be experiencing.

Good luck


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
http://aumha.org/alex.htm

_Reality_Check,_
"Service Pack 2 has been installed without difficulty on
millions of computers, but there have bee
_some_instances_of_problems_
such as you seem to be experiencing."
In the SP2 forum here alone, there has been 6,024 threads started abou
SP2. (slow to update it'self I might add)
And I'm sure all the postings weren't congratulatory.
Sure the OP doesn't define his problems, he's just ranting. For you
part it's easy to dismiss his problem by saying, "Hey, SP2 worked o
millions of computers!" For the end-user with problems, that statemen
is tantamount to the kind of corporate justification, that people jus
don't buy anymore.

For myself, I wish that MS would have given us more control over ho
SP2 was deployed. SP2 for Power Users, (Custom Install) SP2 fo
everyone else, (Express Install)
Well the genie is out of the bottle, and we have to work with what w
have.

From past experience on this computer, I know what I have to do for
successful SP2 install. (extract & re-insert certain SP1 drivers int
the SP2.cab folder) remove all unnecessary hardware; (pci cards
scanner, printer, ext. drives, usb media reader, turn off usb 2.0 i
the bios) then update to SP2. Now all SP2 will see is an Inte
Processor, Intel Motherboard, WD H. Drives, and Kingston Memory. Afte
the update, I'll re-install everything back in the order it came out.

As you can see this computer isn't like "millions of other computers,
that took SP2 well. I know what to do, many others with problem
don't.
Please keep that in mind when you post.
Thanks,
Treema

 

[Guest]

Hi,

Thank you Ron Martell, You are a gentleman and most likely have gone a long
way in helping me solve my situation, unlike Mr Richard Urban who held up the
hand of extreme experience while he trashed and tarnished my abilities in the
simple field of Computer Technology that I have worked within for many years.
Microsoft should emphasise those facts as well to the end user like me on all
their software that I will come across persons like him, Maybe he does or
does not work for Microsoft, but he certainly sounds like a person that has
the abilities or capabilities to know what he is talking about as he tends to
look forward to a good nights rest and then he gets back to his place of
employment and reads mail such as mine and thinks to himself, "Well I will
just add another accolade to Microsofts abilities or his own, which ever the
case may be, while I trash this guy for, all that know me well" except the
Guy you attempted to trash knows possibly as much as you do". So that is two
thimble fulls each that we both posess on Microsofts abilities with this SP2.

Mr Ron Martell on the other hand read my mail and I am so thankful to him
and he understood the situation and provided good advice to the best of his
ability. I do not think that Mr Ron Martell will ever have any problem with
a good nights sleep or shed any worry or anxiety about his employment. He
knows how to deal with a situation and provide an intelligent reply as well
unlike some who wish to create mountains from Mole Hills. Then again you
possibly do need to worry about your employment and your rest Mr Urban

 

[Richard Urban]

William,

Use your many years in the field of computer technology to assess your
problems and repair them - OR take the computer to a professional who
can/will repair it for a price!

--
Regards,

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard

If you knew half as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!