pop ups

B

Boyd

Any idea how to stop all the pop ups? Some pop up even when I don't have a
web site open.

I have Ad-Aware, Spybot, Spyblaster, MIE v 6.0 pop ups on, Nortons' on and
Xoftspy.
 
M

Malke

Boyd said:
Any idea how to stop all the pop ups? Some pop up even when I don't have a
web site open.

I have Ad-Aware, Spybot, Spyblaster, MIE v 6.0 pop ups on, Nortons' on and
Xoftspy.

You may have all those antispyware programs, but your computer is not clean.
Also, if you are getting popups when you don't have a browser open, you
probably don't have a firewall and you probably haven't updated to Service
Pack 2 (or you've enabled the Messenger service).

Disconnect your computer from the Internet and from any local area network.
Make sure it is clean by going through these malware removal steps
systematically, doing all the prep work, finishing work, and following the
instructions to do all scans in Safe Mode.

http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Removing_Malware

Once the computer is completely clean, prepare it for Service Pack 2. I'm
just assuming you don't have it; if I'm incorrect then you need to install
a third-party firewall OR enable the Windows Firewall AND disable the
Messenger service.

Are You Ready for WinXP SP2? -
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=windowsxpsp2
Download full SP2 - http://tinyurl.com/5bobl
Order SP2 on CD from MS - http://tinyurl.com/6g675
Follow the Service Pack Installation Checklist -
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spackins.htm
SP2 links to OEMs - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/oemlinks.mspx
http://aumha.net - See SP2 forums
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_s.htm#sp2 - Windows SP2 Information,
Guidelines and Troubleshooting

Xoftspy is not a program that I would choose to use. While it is no longer
listed as rogue on MVP Eric Howes' excellent site, with so many good honest
antispyware programs available I wouldn't use one that had a tainted
history.

http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm

Malke
 
W

Wesley Vogel

Make sure a firewall is turned on. And you need to disable or remove the
Messenger service.

[[If advertisements are opening on your computer in a window titled
Messenger Service, it may indicate that your system is not secure. You
should enable the Internet Connection Firewall and disable the Messenger
Service in Windows XP to help protect your computer from unwanted spam and
other potential threats.

The Messenger Service was originally designed for use by system
administrators to notify Windows users about their networks. However, some
advertisers have started using this service to send information via the
Internet, and these messages could be used maliciously to distribute a
virus.]]
Disabling Messenger Service in Windows XP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/security/learnmore/stopspam.mspx

[[These messages are also known as "messenger spam."]]
[[To resolve this issue, install or turn on a firewall that blocks inbound
NetBIOS and UDP broadcast traffic. ]]
[[To work around this issue, turn off the Messenger service.]]
Messenger Service window that contains an Internet advertisement appears
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;330904

Disabling Messenger Service in Windows XP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/communicate/stopspam.asp

Messenger Service window that contains an Internet advertisement appears
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;330904

How to prevent Windows Messenger from running on a Windows XP-based computer
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=302089

[[This utility will allow you to disable Windows Messenger on per-user
basis, or on a machine wide basis.]]
Disable/Remove Windows Messenger
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_mess_disable.htm

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In
 
B

Bruce Chambers

Boyd said:
Any idea how to stop all the pop ups? Some pop up even when I don't have a
web site open.

I have Ad-Aware, Spybot, Spyblaster, MIE v 6.0 pop ups on, Nortons' on and
Xoftspy.

Are you sure that you have *SpyBlaster*, and not "Spyblast," which is
itself a source of problems?

What specific kind of pop-ups are you seeing? There are at least
three varieties of pop-ups, and the solutions vary accordingly.

1) Does the title bar of these pop-ups read "Messenger Service?"

This type of spam has become quite common over the past few years,
and unintentionally serves as a valid security "alert." It demonstrates
that the computer user hasn't been taking sufficient precautions while
connected to the Internet. The user's data probably hasn't been
compromised by these specific advertisements, but if he/she's open to
this exploit, he/she may well be open to other threats, such as the
Blaster Worm that swept across the Internet years ago and the Sasser
Worm that followed shortly thereafter, both of which can still be
contacted. Install and use a decent, properly configured firewall.
(Merely disabling the messenger service, as some people recommend, only
hides the symptom, and does little or nothing to truly secure the
machine.) And ignoring or just "putting up with" the security gap
represented by these messages is particularly foolish.

Messenger Service of Windows
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;168893

Messenger Service Window That Contains an Internet Advertisement
Appears
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=330904

Stopping Advertisements with Messenger Service Titles
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/communicate/stopspam.asp

Blocking Ads, Parasites, and Hijackers with a Hosts File
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm

Oh, and be especially wary of people who advise the user to do
nothing more than disable the messenger service. Disabling the
messenger service, by itself, is a "head in the sand" approach to
computer security. The real problem is not the messenger service
pop-ups; they're actually providing a useful, if annoying, service by
acting as a security alert. The true problem is the unsecured computer,
and the user's been advised to merely turn off the warnings. How is
this helpful?

2) For regular Internet pop-ups, you might try the free 12Ghosts
Popup-killer from http://12ghosts.com/ghosts/popup.htm, Pop-Up Stopper
from http://www.panicware.com/, or the Google Toolbar from
http://toolbar.google.com/. Alternatively, you can upgrade your WinXP
to SP2, to install IE's pop-up blocker. Another alternative would be
to use another browser, such as Mozilla or Firefox, which has pop-up
blocking capabilities. (But I'd avoid Netscape; it carries too much
extraneous AOL garbage.)

3) To deal with pop-ups caused by any sort of "adware" and/or
"spyware,"such as Gator, Comet Cursors, Xupiter, Bonzai Buddy, or
KaZaA, and their remnants, that you've deliberately (but without
understanding the consequences) installed, two products that are
quite effective (at finding and removing this type of scumware) are
Ad-Aware from www.lavasoft.de and SpyBot Search & Destroy from
www.safer-networking.org/. Both have free versions. It's even
possible to use SpyBot Search & Destroy to "immunize" your system
against most future intrusions. I use both and generally perform
manual scans every week or so to clean out cookies, etc.

Additionally, manual removal instructions for the most common
varieties of scumware are available here:

PC Hell Spyware and Adware Removal Help
http://www.pchell.com/support/spyware.shtml

More information and assistance is available at these sites:

Blocking Ads, Parasites, and Hijackers with a Hosts File
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm

The Parasite Fight
http://www.aumha.org/a/parasite.htm

Neither adware nor spyware, collectively known as scumware,
magically install themselves on anyone's computer. They are almost
always deliberately installed by the computer's user, as part of some
allegedly "free" service or product.

While there are some unscrupulous malware distributors out there,
who do attempt to install and exploit malware without consent, the
majority of them simply rely upon the intellectual laziness and
gullibility of the average consumer, counting on them to quickly click
past the EULA in his/her haste to get the latest in "free" cutesy
cursors, screensavers, "utilities," and/or wallpapers.

If you were to read the EULAs that accompany, and to which the
computer user must agree before the download/installation of the
"screensaver" continues, most adware and spyware, you'll find that
they _do_ have the consumer's permission to do exactly what they're
doing. In the overwhelming majority of cases, computer users have no
one to blame but themselves.

There are several essential components to computer security: a
knowledgeable and pro-active user, a properly configured firewall,
reliable and up-to-date antivirus software, and the prompt repair (via
patches, hotfixes, or service packs) of any known vulnerabilities.

The weakest link in this "equation" is, of course, the computer
user. No software manufacturer can -- nor should they be expected
to -- protect the computer user from him/herself. All too many people
have bought into the various PC/software manufacturers marketing
claims of easy computing. They believe that their computer should be
no harder to use than a toaster oven; they have neither the
inclination or desire to learn how to safely use their computer. All
too few people keep their antivirus software current, install patches
in a timely manner, or stop to really think about that cutesy link
they're about to click.

Firewalls and anti-virus applications, which should always be used
and should always be running, are important components of "safe hex,"
but they cannot, and should not be expected to, protect the computer
user from him/herself. Ultimately, it is incumbent upon each and
every computer user to learn how to secure his/her own computer.

To learn more about practicing "safe hex," start with these links:

Protect Your PC
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/default.asp

Home Computer Security
http://www.cert.org/homeusers/HomeComputerSecurity/

List of Antivirus Software Vendors
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;49500

Home PC Firewall Guide
http://www.firewallguide.com/

Scumware.com
http://www.scumware.com/


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:



They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrum Russell
 
G

Guest

I have win2000 installed. Reciently I started having a storm of 'messenger
service' reports of registry errors and directing me to various sites to
'cure' the problem (which I ignor). These messages pop-up every one or two
minutes but only when on the internet.

Please, How do I stop these in win2000? By the way my anti-virus and
spyware checkers say the machine is clean.
 
G

Guest

I have win2000 installed.

I have just started having a storm of 'messenger service' pop-ups declaring
regerstry errors and directing me to various/different sites for the 'cure'.

Please, How do I stop these in win2000 ?
 
G

Guest

Gordon,

Fantastic idea. Wounder why this (your) group header does not say it only
discusses XP ? issues (assumed) . Just checked and it really does not.

Please no need to reply, I will wander around and find a windows 2000 group.

Thank you.
Jaye
 
G

Gordon

Jaye said:
I have win2000 installed.

I have just started having a storm of 'messenger service' pop-ups
declaring
regerstry errors and directing me to various/different sites for the
'cure'.

Please, How do I stop these in win2000 ?
--

Don't post twice - and post to a W2K group......
 
G

Guest

Here I am again.

Mr. Gordon, perhaps to your dismay, Microsoft clearly sent me her for
WIN2000 discussions.

If anyone you can be heplfull with this win2000 issue I will greatly
appreciate the help.

I am trying to stop messenger service pop-ups that declare regestry errors
exist (they do not exist) and then directs me to various sites.

Please, how do I turn-off messanger service or block these events?

Thank you.
Jaye
 
C

Carey Frisch [MVP]

Install both good firewall and a good antispyware program.

http://www.zonelabs.com/store/conte...alm/freeDownload.jsp?dc=12bms&ctry=US&lang=en

Why you need a firewall:
http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/support/zasc/whyFirewall.jsp?lid=home_pc_firewall

Windows Defender
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP 2007
Windows - Shell/User

Enjoy all the benefits of genuine Microsoft software:
http://www.microsoft.com/genuine/default.mspx

---------------------------------------------------------------------------­---------------------------------

:

| I have win2000 installed.
|
| I have just started having a storm of 'messenger service' pop-ups declaring
| regerstry errors and directing me to various/different sites for the 'cure'.
|
| Please, How do I stop these in win2000 ?
| --
| Jaye
 
G

Gordon

Jaye said:
Here I am again.

Mr. Gordon, perhaps to your dismay, Microsoft clearly sent me her for
WIN2000 discussions.

if you MUST use the web interface, the W2K groups are under IIS in
Servers-Windows Server for some unimaginable reason..........
 
G

Guest

Cary,

Is there a specific way to disable the messanger service in win2000?

I will install the two programs you suggest although I presently have a
spyware & virus checker installed.

However this acts like a virus in that the sites the messanger service
directs me toward keeps changing.

Thank you for the reply
Jaye
 
M

Malke

Jaye said:
Cary,

Is there a specific way to disable the messanger service in win2000?

I will install the two programs you suggest although I presently have
a spyware & virus checker installed.

However this acts like a virus in that the sites the messanger service
directs me toward keeps changing.

Start>Run>services.msc [enter]

Scroll down to the Messenger service and disable it.

Malke
 
G

Guest

Malke,

Thank you very much for taking the time to respond. I will do that this
evening
--
Jaye


Malke said:
Jaye said:
Cary,

Is there a specific way to disable the messanger service in win2000?

I will install the two programs you suggest although I presently have
a spyware & virus checker installed.

However this acts like a virus in that the sites the messanger service
directs me toward keeps changing.

Start>Run>services.msc [enter]

Scroll down to the Messenger service and disable it.

Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
 
P

Patrick Keenan

Jaye said:
I have win2000 installed.

I have just started having a storm of 'messenger service' pop-ups
declaring
regerstry errors and directing me to various/different sites for the
'cure'.

Please, How do I stop these in win2000 ?

You'd locate the Messenger Service and disable it, if in fact it is the
Messenger service that's being used to present these messages. In XP SP2,
this service is disabled by default.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/330904

"WORKAROUND
To work around this issue, turn off the Messenger service. To do this,
follow these steps: 1. Click Start, and then click Control Panel (or point
to Settings, and then click Control Panel).
2. Double-click Administrative Tools.
3. Double-click Services.
4. Double-click Messenger.
5. In the Startup type list, click Disabled.
6. Click Stop, and then click OK.
"

HTH
-pk
 
G

Guest

Patrick,

Thank you for the detailed message. I will disable the messenger service
this evening.
 
B

Bruce Chambers

Jaye said:
I have win2000 installed. Reciently I started having a storm of 'messenger
service' reports of registry errors and directing me to various sites to
'cure' the problem (which I ignor). These messages pop-up every one or two
minutes but only when on the internet.

Please, How do I stop these in win2000? By the way my anti-virus and
spyware checkers say the machine is clean.



What specific kind of pop-ups are you seeing? There are at least
three varieties of pop-ups, and the solutions vary accordingly.

1) Does the title bar of these pop-ups read "Messenger Service?"

This type of spam has become quite common over the past few years,
and unintentionally serves as a valid security "alert." It demonstrates
that the computer user hasn't been taking sufficient precautions while
connected to the Internet. The user's data probably hasn't been
compromised by these specific advertisements, but if he/she's open to
this exploit, he/she may well be open to other threats, such as the
Blaster Worm that swept across the Internet years ago and the Sasser
Worm that followed shortly thereafter, both of which can still be
contacted. Install and use a decent, properly configured firewall.
(Merely disabling the messenger service, as some people recommend, only
hides the symptom, and does little or nothing to truly secure the
machine.) And ignoring or just "putting up with" the security gap
represented by these messages is particularly foolish.

Messenger Service of Windows
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;168893

Messenger Service Window That Contains an Internet Advertisement
Appears
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=330904

Stopping Advertisements with Messenger Service Titles
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/communicate/stopspam.asp

Blocking Ads, Parasites, and Hijackers with a Hosts File
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm

Oh, and be especially wary of people who advise the user to do
nothing more than disable the messenger service. Disabling the
messenger service, by itself, is a "head in the sand" approach to
computer security. The real problem is not the messenger service
pop-ups; they're actually providing a useful, if annoying, service by
acting as a security alert. The true problem is the unsecured computer,
and the user's been advised to merely turn off the warnings. How is
this helpful?

2) For regular Internet pop-ups, you might try the free 12Ghosts
Popup-killer from http://12ghosts.com/ghosts/popup.htm, Pop-Up Stopper
from http://www.panicware.com/, or the Google Toolbar from
http://toolbar.google.com/. Alternatively, you can upgrade your WinXP
to SP2, to install IE's pop-up blocker. Another alternative would be
to use another browser, such as Mozilla or Firefox, which has pop-up
blocking capabilities. (But I'd avoid Netscape; it carries too much
extraneous AOL garbage.)

3) To deal with pop-ups caused by any sort of "adware" and/or
"spyware,"such as Gator, Comet Cursors, Xupiter, Bonzai Buddy, or
KaZaA, and their remnants, that you've deliberately (but without
understanding the consequences) installed, two products that are
quite effective (at finding and removing this type of scumware) are
Ad-Aware from www.lavasoft.de and SpyBot Search & Destroy from
www.safer-networking.org/. Both have free versions. It's even
possible to use SpyBot Search & Destroy to "immunize" your system
against most future intrusions. I use both and generally perform
manual scans every week or so to clean out cookies, etc.

Additionally, manual removal instructions for the most common
varieties of scumware are available here:

PC Hell Spyware and Adware Removal Help
http://www.pchell.com/support/spyware.shtml

More information and assistance is available at these sites:

Blocking Ads, Parasites, and Hijackers with a Hosts File
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm

The Parasite Fight
http://www.aumha.org/a/parasite.htm

Neither adware nor spyware, collectively known as scumware,
magically install themselves on anyone's computer. They are almost
always deliberately installed by the computer's user, as part of some
allegedly "free" service or product.

While there are some unscrupulous malware distributors out there,
who do attempt to install and exploit malware without consent, the
majority of them simply rely upon the intellectual laziness and
gullibility of the average consumer, counting on them to quickly click
past the EULA in his/her haste to get the latest in "free" cutesy
cursors, screensavers, "utilities," and/or wallpapers.

If you were to read the EULAs that accompany, and to which the
computer user must agree before the download/installation of the
"screensaver" continues, most adware and spyware, you'll find that
they _do_ have the consumer's permission to do exactly what they're
doing. In the overwhelming majority of cases, computer users have no
one to blame but themselves.

There are several essential components to computer security: a
knowledgeable and pro-active user, a properly configured firewall,
reliable and up-to-date antivirus software, and the prompt repair (via
patches, hotfixes, or service packs) of any known vulnerabilities.

The weakest link in this "equation" is, of course, the computer
user. No software manufacturer can -- nor should they be expected
to -- protect the computer user from him/herself. All too many people
have bought into the various PC/software manufacturers marketing
claims of easy computing. They believe that their computer should be
no harder to use than a toaster oven; they have neither the
inclination or desire to learn how to safely use their computer. All
too few people keep their antivirus software current, install patches
in a timely manner, or stop to really think about that cutesy link
they're about to click.

Firewalls and anti-virus applications, which should always be used
and should always be running, are important components of "safe hex,"
but they cannot, and should not be expected to, protect the computer
user from him/herself. Ultimately, it is incumbent upon each and
every computer user to learn how to secure his/her own computer.

To learn more about practicing "safe hex," start with these links:

Protect Your PC
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/default.asp

Home Computer Security
http://www.cert.org/homeusers/HomeComputerSecurity/

List of Antivirus Software Vendors
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;49500

Home PC Firewall Guide
http://www.firewallguide.com/

Scumware.com
http://www.scumware.com/


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:



They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell
 
B

Bruce Chambers

Patrick said:
You'd locate the Messenger Service and disable it, if in fact it is the
Messenger service that's being used to present these messages. In XP SP2,
this service is disabled by default.


I realize that you're trying to help, and that such an intent is
commendable, but please don't post potentially harmful advice.

Merely disabling the messenger service, as you suggest, is a
dangerous "head in the sand" approach to computer security that leaves
the PC vulnerable to threats such as the W32.Blaster, W32.Welchia, and
W32,Sasser worms.

The real problem is _not_ the messenger service pop-ups; they're
actually providing a useful, if unintentional, service by acting as a
security alert. The true problem is the unsecured computer, and your
only advice, however well-intended, was to turn off the warnings. Was
this truly helpful?

Equivalent Scenario: You over-exert your shoulder at work or play,
causing bursitis. After weeks of annoying and sometimes excruciating
pain whenever you try to reach over your head, you go to a doctor and
say, while demonstrating the motion, "Doc, it hurts when I do this." The
doctor, being as helpful as you've been, replies, "Well, don't do that."

The only true way to secure the PC, short of disconnecting it from
the Internet, is to install and *properly* configure a firewall; just
installing one and letting it's default settings handle things is no
good. Unfortunately, this does require one to learn a little bit more
about using a computer than used to be necessary.


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:



They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell
 

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