Please help me with home network

[GMF]

I have set up a wireless (ad-hoc) network connection between my home
desktop and laptop computer. The only reason I did this was to
utilize the Internet Connection Sharing so I could connect to the
Internet on my laptop via the DSL connection on my desktop. However,
even though both computers are showing that they are connected via the
wireless cards, I can't "see" the other computer when I explore My
Network places. The name of my network is "Mshome" and if I'm on my
desktop the only computer that shows up on that network is my desktop.
If I explore Mshome on my laptop, the only computer that shows up is
my laptop. I've enabled ICS on my DSL connection, but I can't connect
to the Internet on my laptop (which is to be expected, I suppose,
until I can get the two computers to recognize each other on the
network).

Any and all help would be appreciated.

 

[Chuck]

I have set up a wireless (ad-hoc) network connection between my home
desktop and laptop computer. The only reason I did this was to
utilize the Internet Connection Sharing so I could connect to the
Internet on my laptop via the DSL connection on my desktop. However,
even though both computers are showing that they are connected via the
wireless cards, I can't "see" the other computer when I explore My
Network places. The name of my network is "Mshome" and if I'm on my
desktop the only computer that shows up on that network is my desktop.
If I explore Mshome on my laptop, the only computer that shows up is
my laptop. I've enabled ICS on my DSL connection, but I can't connect
to the Internet on my laptop (which is to be expected, I suppose,
until I can get the two computers to recognize each other on the
network).

Any and all help would be appreciated.

Actually, basic connectivity, Internet access, and file sharing (aka "seeing"
other computers) use the same basic components, but also some different
components.

Did you run the Network Setup wizard on each computer? If not, do that, and
choose Option #1 on the desktop, and then #2 on the laptop.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-internet-service.html#Components>

Next, run "ipconfig /all" from both computers, and post the output here. Read
this article, and linked articles, for instructions:
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-internet-service.html#AskingForHelp>

--
Cheers,
Chuck [MS-MVP Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem - it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck sonic net.

 

[GMF]

Did you run the Network Setup wizard on each computer? If not, do that, and
choose Option #1 on the desktop, and then #2 on the laptop.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-internet-service.html#Components>

Next, run "ipconfig /all" from both computers, and post the output here. Read
this article, and linked articles, for instructions:
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-internet-service.html#AskingForHelp>

I used the Network Setup Wiz to configure both computers and I
selected #1 on the desktop and #2 on the laptop.

Here's the ipconfig output for the desktop:

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Computer

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100

Integrated Controller

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0F-1F-4F-FE-42

PPP adapter BellSouth:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 65.4.176.158

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 65.4.176.158

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 205.152.132.235

205.152.37.254

NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NETGEAR
WG111T108MbpsWireless USB2.0 Adapter

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0F-B5-94-7D-2A

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :


Here is the ipconfig output for the laptop:

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : LAPTOP

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Dell Wireless 1370 WLAN
Mini-PCI Card

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0E-9B-C3-CF-9D

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.178.219

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

 

[Chuck]

I used the Network Setup Wiz to configure both computers and I
selected #1 on the desktop and #2 on the laptop.

Here's the ipconfig output for the desktop:

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Computer

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100

Integrated Controller

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0F-1F-4F-FE-42

PPP adapter BellSouth:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 65.4.176.158

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 65.4.176.158

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 205.152.132.235

205.152.37.254

NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NETGEAR
WG111T108MbpsWireless USB2.0 Adapter

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0F-B5-94-7D-2A

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :


Here is the ipconfig output for the laptop:

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : LAPTOP

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Dell Wireless 1370 WLAN
Mini-PCI Card

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0E-9B-C3-CF-9D

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.178.219

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

OK, Computer has ICS enabled ("IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes" and "IP
Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1"). Laptop isn't picking up a DHCP
address though, so that's where you gotta start.

What do you mean by "both computers are showing that they are connected via the
wireless cards"? Where is connection showing? Here's Microsoft's wireless
networking instructions:
<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/wifisoho.mspx>

And here we have a few third party websites with tutorials:
http://www.cablesense.com/
http://www.homenethelp.com/
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/
http://www.wown.com/

If you were connecting two computers thru a router, you'd have some chance of
seeing diagnostics - maybe the lights on the router, maybe a router log, to get
an idea what is happening. With ICS thru adhoc WiFi, you won't have either of
those. You probably should start off with WEP / WPA disabled on both computers,
and see if they will associate with each other. Once they associate, then see
if Laptop can get an address.

Once Laptop gets an IP address, then we can work on file sharing and Internet
service sharing.

--
Cheers,
Chuck [MS-MVP Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem - it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck sonic net.

 

[GMF]

What do you mean by "both computers are showing that they are connected via the
wireless cards"? Where is connection showing?

The wireless card icon in the system tray says "Connected to Mshome"
with "excellent" signal strength on both the laptop and desktop.

 

[GMF]

You probably should start off with WEP / WPA disabled on both computers,
and see if they will associate with each other. Once they associate, then see
if Laptop can get an address.

Okay, disabling WEP allowed the laptop to "see" the desktop. However,
the desktop still can't "see" the laptop. In fact, when I click on
the Mshome icon (Mshome = the name of my network) on my dekstop
computer, I get an error message saying "Mshome is not accessible. You
might not have permission to use this network resource." On my
laptop, I can open Mshome, but when I try to access my desktop
computer I get the same error message as above. (Except for the Mshome
part.)

 

[Chuck]

Okay, disabling WEP allowed the laptop to "see" the desktop. However,
the desktop still can't "see" the laptop. In fact, when I click on
the Mshome icon (Mshome = the name of my network) on my dekstop
computer, I get an error message saying "Mshome is not accessible. You
might not have permission to use this network resource." On my
laptop, I can open Mshome, but when I try to access my desktop
computer I get the same error message as above. (Except for the Mshome
part.)

OK, presuming you now have connectivity between the two computers, you're left
with the standard firewall / browser problem. Look for a firewall problem
first, including any overlooked firewalls, such as ones packaged with your
antivirus protection.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html>

Next, look for a browser conflict, which is a common situation in WLANs.
Diagnose a browser conflict using browstat - instructions in this article:
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html>

If you check for both firewall and browser problems, and neither is identified,
then go thru the troubleshooting guide, item by item.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html>

--
Cheers,
Chuck [MS-MVP Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem - it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck sonic net.

 

[Ken Zhao [MSFT]]

Hello,

Thank you for using newsgroup!

From your post, I have set up a wireless (ad-hoc) network connection
between my home desktop and laptop computer. You get a message "Mshome is
not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource."

First of all, I'd like to very thanks for Chuck's great suggestions. You
may first refer to the suggestions and article links that he mentioned.

At this point, I also provide you with the following suggestions for
reference:

Suggestion1. Please confirm if you are able to browse the computer through
\\ip address or \\computer name.

Suggestion2. Please uninstall or disable any third party antivirus and
firewall programs to test.

Suggestion3. Check the service
1. Start\Run, type Services.msc.
2. Check Computer Browser service and go to properties.
3. Service type should be Manual and service status should be Started.
4. Reboot the machine to test.

Suggestion4. To turn Simple File Sharing on in Windows XP Professional
1. Double-click My Computer on the desktop.
2. On the Tools menu, click Folder Options.
3. Click the View tab, and then select the Use Simple File Sharing
(Recommended) check box to turn on Simple File Sharing. (Clear this check
box to turn off this feature.)

Suggestion5. Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is turned on
===============================
1. Click Start, click Control Panel, and then click Network and Internet
Connections.
2. Click Network Connections.
3. Right-click Local Area Connection, and then click Properties.
4. Click Internet Protocol (TCP/IP), and then click Properties.
5. Click the General tab, and then click Advanced.
6. Click the WINS tab.
7. Under NetBIOS setting, click Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP, and then click
OK two times.
8. Click Close to close the Local Area Connection Properties dialog box.
9. Close the Network Connections window.

If the OS is Windows XP SP2, you also may refer to the following
suggestions:

Suggestion6. Enable all "File and Printer sharing" ports
1) Click Start, click Run, type firewall.cpl.
2) In the Exceptions tab, check "File and Printer sharing" option, and
click Edit button, enable all TCP and UDP ports.
3) Test the issue.

Suggestion7. Disable Windows Firewall
1) Click Start, click Run, type firewall.cpl.
2) In the Exceptions tab, select "Off (not recommend)" option to disable
the Windows Firewall temporarily.
3) Test the issue.

Suggestion8. Group Policy Editor
1) Click Start, click Run, type gpedit.msc.
2) Navigate to Computer Configuration\Windows Settings\Security
Settings\Local Policies\User Rights Assignment.
3) In the right pane, double click "Deny access to this computer from the
network" option. Remove all users or group from the list.
4) In the right pane, double click "Access this computer from the network"
option. Add the user account or group to the access list.
5) Test the issue.

Suggestion9. Registry Editor
1) Click Start, click Run, type regedit.
2) Navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa
3) Make sure the value data of RestrictAnonymous is 0.

Suggestion10. Enable Guest account
1) On the Windows XP SP2 machine, click Start, click Run, and type
compmgmt.msc.
2) Navigate to Local Users and Groups\Users.
3) In the right pane, enable the Guest account.
4) Test the issue again.

If the problem persists, I also suggest you try to connect the both
computer with wired connections to the DSL router to see if the issue
occurs.

I hope the information helps!

Reference:
================
188305: Troubleshooting the Microsoft Computer Browser Service
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188305

Thanks & Regards,

Ken Zhao

Microsoft Online Partner Support
Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

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| > You probably should start off with WEP / WPA disabled on both computers,
| >and see if they will associate with each other. Once they associate,
then see
| >if Laptop can get an address.
|
| Okay, disabling WEP allowed the laptop to "see" the desktop. However,
| the desktop still can't "see" the laptop. In fact, when I click on
| the Mshome icon (Mshome = the name of my network) on my dekstop
| computer, I get an error message saying "Mshome is not accessible. You
| might not have permission to use this network resource." On my
| laptop, I can open Mshome, but when I try to access my desktop
| computer I get the same error message as above. (Except for the Mshome
| part.)
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|