Please help - installing another OS in Windows XP

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Hi!

I'd like to install Windows 95/98/ME. I have a system running Windows XP
and have partitioned a seperate drive to install Windows 9x.

However, it says that I can't install Windows 9x while running Windows 2000.
I booted up with a Windows 98 disk and it said I cannot install because the
hard drive cannot be accessed (since it's NTSF) or something like that.

How can I install Windows 9x on a seperate partition in Windows XP???
Thanks in advanced!
 
Ryan,

You will need to add a new partition and format that partition to be FAT32
filesystem and not NTFS. Win98 (Win9x) needs to use a FAT32 filesystem
instead of NTFS filesystem.

And since you already have WInXP installed, and after you have installed
your 2nd OS (Win98), you will need to do a repair of the WinXP Boot Loader.

For more information, please read the following webpages:

Install Windows 98 After Windows XP
http://www.petri.co.il/install_windows_98_after_windows_xp.htm
http://www.tweakxp.com/article139744.aspx

Hope this helps.
 
You don't install it IN Windows XP. You install it outside of Windows XP,
unless you have a program such as Virtual PC.

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Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
Hi Jabez,

The seperate partition is already FAT32. I can't run the installed in
windows xp.
If i run it off the boot disk, it still says i can't do it :(

Please advise.
 
I tried installing it by booting from the CD (Windows 98).

Still can't do it 'cause it says the hdd i'm booting off (C:) is NTFS, the
partition I want to install Windows 9x on is H: drive.
 
Ryan said:
Hi Jabez,

The seperate partition is already FAT32. I can't run the installed in
windows xp.
If i run it off the boot disk, it still says i can't do it :(

Please advise.
Click to expand...

Which partitioning software are you using? You probably created a logical
partition, that won't work if you have an NTFS primary boot drive. You must
create a second FAT32 primary partition, formatted and set active. Then boot
your a:> and check that dir c: shows no files. BE PREPARED to repair your XP
bootloader after or you will be sad.

Lee
 
Well, you're certainly doing something wrong or are mistaken in what you
have already told us!

Take the computer to a knowledgeable person for assistance.

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Regards,

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
You sure don't know how to install Windows 98. You boot up with the setup
floppy that was part of the original installation package. No wonder you
can't install it! Read. Read. Read.

How about Google? Search on install Windows 98 or something like that. I
won't do it for you but you may be capable of doing it yourself!

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Regards,

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
Ryan,

If the setup detected that win9x is on H: drive, it means that you have a
new partition created on a logical drive and Win98 will not be able to boot
up later.

Here is what you got to do:

1. Remerge C: and H: partition
2. Create a new partition (primary partition)

What partition manager are you using? I would suggest that you also read up
the manual on how to do a partition.

Hope this helps.
 
Hi,

You have to run setup from a boot floppy, not start it from within the
existing Windows installation.

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Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
 
Ryan said:
Hi!

I'd like to install Windows 95/98/ME. I have a system running Windows XP
and have partitioned a seperate drive to install Windows 9x.

However, it says that I can't install Windows 9x while running Windows 2000.
I booted up with a Windows 98 disk and it said I cannot install because the
hard drive cannot be accessed (since it's NTSF) or something like that.

How can I install Windows 9x on a seperate partition in Windows XP???
Thanks in advanced!
Click to expand...


If your C: drive is formatted using the FAT32 file system, MS-MVP
Doug Knox has kindly provided clear instructions:

Install Windows 98 after XP is Installed.
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_repair_9x.htm

Otherwise:

The simplest way I've found to dual boot between Win9x/Me and WinXP
would be to partition your drive(s) roughly as follows:

C: Primary FAT32 Win9x/Me/Legacy Apps
D: Extended NTFS WinXP/Modern Apps

Adjust the partition sizes according to your actual hard drive(s)
size and the amount of space you'd like to allocate to each OS and its
applications.

Create the partitions using Win9x's FDISK so you can enable large
disk support (FAT32). (No need for 3rd party partitioning
utilities/boot managers and their frequent complications.)

Install Win9x/Me first, being sure to select "C:\Windows" (or
D:\Windows, if you prefer) when asked for the default Windows
directory. When you subsequently install WinXP, be sure to specify
"D:\Winnt" (or "D:\Windows," "C:\Winnt" as referred/applicable) when
asked for the default Windows directory, to place it in the other
partition. The WinXP installation routine will automatically set up a
Multi-boot menu for you. The default settings for this menu can be
readily edited from within WinXP. NOTE: If you elect to place
Win9x/Me on the "D:" drive, you'll _have_ to leave the "C:" drive as
FAT32.

This method can be adapted to using 2 physical hard drives by
placing the boot partition (C:, which still must be FAT32) and either
of the operating systems on the Primary Master hard drive, and the
second operating system on the second hard drive.

It is also possible to have a 3rd partition for shared
applications, but it would be necessary for such a partition to be
formatted in the common file format (FAT32). The applications would
also have to be installed into each OS (to ensure proper system file
placement and registry updates), one at a time, but the bulk of the
program files could be located on this common partition. I do not,
however, actually recommend doing this as, if you were to uninstall
such an application from one OS, you may not be able to gracefully
uninstall it from the second OS, having already deleted crucial
installation data during the first uninstall action.

Just about everything you need to know (URLs may wrap):

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q217/2/10.ASP

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/gettingstarted/multiboot.asp


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Ryan said:
It's already FAT32 :P
Still no can do :(
Click to expand...


To install Win98 *after* WinXP, *all* of the involved partitions must
be FAT32. If C: is NTFS, you'll not be able to add Win98.


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I tried installing it by booting from the CD (Windows 98).

Still can't do it 'cause it says the hdd i'm booting off (C:) is NTFS, the
partition I want to install Windows 9x on is H: drive.
:
Click to expand...

While you can direct the install of Win98 to another drive, its boot files
need to reside on C: and that needs to be FAT32 also.

If you currently have XP on that first partition and its NTFS, you'll need
to start over and have C: and whatever drive Win98 will be on formatted as
FAT32 -OR- use a third party boot manager that will allow you to use the
partitions as they are now.
 
Create the partitions using Win9x's FDISK so you can enable large
disk support (FAT32). (No need for 3rd party partitioning
utilities/boot managers and their frequent complications.)
Click to expand...

Just curious, what "frequent" complications might that be??

From what I gather with the way recommendations are made for dual
booting & letting "Windozes" tools manage everything appear to create
"more" havoc than what it's worth?? It's all evidenced by the *MANY*
complications I read in this NG...........

I mean it's just my opinion, but I am curious about these "frequent
complications" you speak of using 3rd party software.......
 
Bruce Chambers said:
To install Win98 *after* WinXP, *all* of the involved partitions must be
FAT32. If C: is NTFS, you'll not be able to add Win98.
Click to expand...

Bruce (and Sharon), that is not true. You can install 98 (or ME) after
2000/XP even if they are on NTFS. But then, 98 can only be installed on its
own "primary" partition(s) (obviously, not extended/logical as Doug's site
gives instructions for). He needs to go into disk management, delete the
partition (as it seems it is logical now), then recreate it as a Primary
partition . Use a 98 boot disk, run FDISK, then create a dos partition on
the primary drive, format it, then install it. He then will need a boot
manager to use his OSes, unless he wants to run FDISK each time to set what
partition is active.

I know there are more details to installing it then what I stated above, but
I was just showing how this basically can be accomplished (I have done this
several times).
 
ByTor said:
Just curious, what "frequent" complications might that be??
Click to expand...


I suppose I need to reword that, now, as some boot managers have
improved. There's nothing specific, really. I've just seen a lot of
people have problems installing and understanding 3rd-party boot and
partition managers. Since there's really no need to add an additional
factor into the boot process to create potential complications, I simply
don't recommend them, unless they're truly necessary. The boot manager
built into WinNT. Win2K and WinXP is simple almost to the point of being
fool-proof, and serves the needs of most multi-booters quite well. I'd
recommend the use of a 3rd party boot manager only when dissimilar
operating systems (i.e., Microsoft & Linux) or different language
versions of Windows are involved.


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Bruce Chambers said:
To install Win98 *after* WinXP, *all* of the involved partitions must be
FAT32. If C: is NTFS, you'll not be able to add Win98.
Click to expand...

Bruce (and Sharon), that is not true. You can install 98 (or ME) after
2000/XP even if they are on NTFS. But then, 98 can only be installed on its
own "primary" partition(s) (obviously, not extended/logical as Doug's site
gives instructions for). He needs to go into disk management, delete the
partition (as it seems it is logical now), then recreate it as a Primary
partition . Use a 98 boot disk, run FDISK, then create a dos partition on
the primary drive, format it, then install it. He then will need a boot
manager to use his OSes, unless he wants to run FDISK each time to set what
partition is active.

I know there are more details to installing it then what I stated above, but
I was just showing how this basically can be accomplished (I have done this
several times).
 
Tom said:
Bruce (and Sharon), that is not true. You can install 98 (or ME) after
2000/XP even if they are on NTFS. But then, 98 can only be installed on its
own "primary" partition(s) (obviously, not extended/logical as Doug's site
gives instructions for). He needs to go into disk management, delete the
partition (as it seems it is logical now), then recreate it as a Primary
partition . Use a 98 boot disk, run FDISK, then create a dos partition on
the primary drive, format it, then install it. He then will need a boot
manager to use his OSes, unless he wants to run FDISK each time to set what
partition is active.

I know there are more details to installing it then what I stated above, but
I was just showing how this basically can be accomplished (I have done this
several times).
Click to expand...

Can't speak for Sharon, but I was trying to keep it relatively simple,
by providing a solution that didn't require the use of a 3rd party boot
manager. As you've correctly pointed out, though, my answer really
wasn't complete.

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