PLEASE fix the 18 hour reminder! Won't anyone listen?

[mtb]

You're using Outlook 2002 and expect anything in its feature set to
change? Mainstream support ended back in 2006. That means no program
changes. Security updates will continue until the end of extended
support sometime in 2011.


No, it isn't. If one default can be user configurable then why not
EVERY default? Like I said, there are LOTS of defaults. Every field
or setting in the calendar event when creating it has a default. I
counted at least 22 items with a default value.

Have you tried Duncan's suggestion of creating a template form and
using that when you create new calendar events? That seems to give you
all the tweaking you could possibly want. I haven't done this. Create
a new event, set up all the fields with whatever default you want, and
then use File -> Save As to save it as a template (.oft file).
Thereafter you'll use File -> New -> Choose Form to open that template
(there might be an easier way to at the template; since I don't use
them, I don't know any shortcuts for using them).


You have a copy of OL2007 to check? You said you were still back on
OL2002 (like me).

Why does it seem like you are just posting to argue. What I am saying is no
brainer stuff. Everyone could benefit from it. Don't you want more
useability out of the program. Of course there are a lot defaults BUT only a
few that matter. If you are creating a lot of appointments, this is one of
them.

You have a copy of OL2007 to check? You said you were still back on
OL2002 (like me).

Once again, jumping to conclusions. Why do you think I know that 2007
doesn't have this fixed? Maybe because when I realized 2002 didn't have it I
did a web search? Do a search for this "18 hour reminder outlook" and see
how many people are complaining about this on various forums. All with even
the latest Outlook.

 

[mtb]

Actually if he could change the default, he would probably find he has
to change it as often as he does now. Considering it is a reminder
before the event and because different events requires differing lead
times for the reminder, a default for this value really doesn't make any
sense. However, it is a drop-down listbox of multiple values so one of
them gets picked as the default. Zero would've been just as valid a
default as is 18 hours.

But 18 hours means you get woke up at 6:00am THE DAY BEFORE the All Day
event. Out of all the times they could have picked.

 

[mtb]

She means that since you must change other things when you create your all-day
event, just set the proper reminder as well before saving the event. It's
hardly any additional effort.

The problem with this is I am not the only one who creates appointments in
the family Outlook.

 

[Diane Poremsky [MVP]]

Correct - all versions of outlook behave the same - the all day reminder is
18 hrs and can't be changed globally. You need to change it each time you
make an al day event.

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[VanguardLH]

What I am saying is no brainer stuff. Everyone could benefit from it.
Don't you want more useability out of the program. Of course there
are a lot defaults BUT only a few that matter. If you are creating a
lot of appointments, this is one of them.

And have you yet tried using the template approach that Duncan
mentioned? Seems like it gives you as much or as little of the tweaks
that you want.

http://www.google.com/search?q=+"outlook+2007"+%2B"18+hour"+%2Breminder

127 hits for OL2007 (1770 with no version specified) is hardly
convincing and overwhelming proof that there is/was massive demand for
this setting to be configurable. What I draw from the Google search is
there are NOT a pervasive count of users asking for the tweaking that
you want.

It seems that Outlook *can* do what you want and was described by
Duncan. Now you have to go do it.

 

[VanguardLH]

But 18 hours means you get woke up at 6:00am THE DAY BEFORE the All Day
event. Out of all the times they could have picked.

Because may first-shifters start their workday early. That you get up
at 9AM is probably not the standard wakeup time for day shifters. What
good would be reminder if you woke up, got dressed, ate breakfast,
brushed your teeth, shaved or did other preening, and headed off to work
to have the reminder popup after you left? If the computer is at work,
the reminder will already be there when you arrive. If an event is
truly an all-day event then perhaps you need to be making arrangements
today for tomorrow's whole-day event at the beginning of today rather
than at the end (when you might've already left work). See, I can come
up with as many counter scenarios as you can propose for your scenarios.
Microsoft didn't happen to pick a default that YOU like.

Did you yet try Duncan's suggestion of creating a template so you can
have it tweaked just how you want? Seems the solution exists but you
have yet to avail yourself of it.

If you don't want to use a template that has all your tweaked values,
it's possible that an add-on could alter those settings. Maybe there is
code or someone can help over at http://outlook-code.com/ or in one of
the VBA programming newsgroups. You could shop around for a VBA
programmer to commission them to write you an add-on. Microsoft did
plan ahead for alterations to their Outlook product by providing an API
to their product so you can code, borrow, or buy an add-on that does
what you want.

 

[VanguardLH]

The problem with this is I am not the only one who creates appointments in
the family Outlook.

So your "argument" is to thwart lazy users? Do all them want the same
default for the reminder as do you? You are actually letting ALL users
share the same Windows logon and the same mail profile, too?

 

[Diane Poremsky [MVP]]

Did *you* make a form with the reminder set to a different time to see if it
worked?

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[VanguardLH]

Did *you* make a form with the reminder set to a different time to see if it
worked?

Was I the one who asked to tweak the default reminder interval? Let him
do his own work. It's HIS problem, not mine.

 

[Diane Poremsky [MVP]]

I'm just pointing out that the solution you are recommending will not work -
you can't save the reminder time for an all day event in a custom form.

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[Duncan McC]

I'm just pointing out that the solution you are recommending will not work -
you can't save the reminder time for an all day event in a custom form.

Indeed, it doesn't work. It saves the appt reminder, but it doesn't
save the "all day" checkbox.

 

[Duncan McC]

Indeed, it doesn't work. It saves the appt reminder, but it doesn't
save the "all day" checkbox.

I should have added... and when you click the "all day" checkbox, the
appt reminder goes back to 18 hours.

 

[cinnamngrl]

I have been woken up for the last 6 months at 6:00am the morning BEFORE an
all-day appointment. I have tried hard to figure it out. Finally, this
morning was enough. Finally I did a search on it and was so shocked to see
how many people have complained about this over the YEARS. Is anyone
listening? This is crazy! Why is microsoft not listening? It is such an
easy fix! Just make the default all day events reminder adjustable by the
user WHO BUYS THE PROGRAM! Did I say BUYS THE PROGRAM yet? Then everyone
can adjust the default to what suits them. Please fix this.

I don't know how to fix your default but I did have a problem with all day
appointment alarms. It wasn't a noise problem, It was like a hundred alert
boxes on my screen. I created the appointments because I am tracking a
caseload. I wanted to keep track of the birthdays and the day the case
opened. I made a macro that changed the reminderset on every all day
appointment. that was somewhat successful but I think I may have had to
delete a lot. Then I changed the macro that I used to enter contacts to
make .reminderset=False and it hasn't been much of a problem since.

MS Office is what it is. what we really need is an open source PIM manager
that can sync data with multiple platforms.

 

[Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]]

Have you tried Evolution?

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After furious head scratching, cinnamngrl asked:

| "mtb" wrote:
|
|| I have been woken up for the last 6 months at 6:00am the morning
|| BEFORE an all-day appointment. I have tried hard to figure it out.
|| Finally, this morning was enough. Finally I did a search on it and
|| was so shocked to see how many people have complained about this
|| over the YEARS. Is anyone listening? This is crazy! Why is
|| microsoft not listening? It is such an easy fix! Just make the
|| default all day events reminder adjustable by the user WHO BUYS THE
|| PROGRAM! Did I say BUYS THE PROGRAM yet? Then everyone can adjust
|| the default to what suits them. Please fix this.
|
|
|
| I don't know how to fix your default but I did have a problem with
| all day appointment alarms. It wasn't a noise problem, It was like a
| hundred alert boxes on my screen. I created the appointments because
| I am tracking a caseload. I wanted to keep track of the birthdays
| and the day the case opened. I made a macro that changed the
| reminderset on every all day appointment. that was somewhat
| successful but I think I may have had to delete a lot. Then I
| changed the macro that I used to enter contacts to make
| .reminderset=False and it hasn't been much of a problem since.
|
| MS Office is what it is. what we really need is an open source PIM
| manager that can sync data with multiple platforms.

 

[Brian Tillman [MVP - Outlook]]

Why does it seem like you are just posting to argue. What I am saying is no
brainer stuff. Everyone could benefit from it. Don't you want more
useability out of the program. Of course there are a lot defaults BUT only
a
few that matter. If you are creating a lot of appointments, this is one of
them.

However much it seems reasonable to us on the outside, Microsoft's approach to
most default behavior changes is to not allow choosing between multiple
defaults.

 

[Gordon]

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[Brian Tillman [MVP - Outlook]]

This API is to retrieve information from App Store. With help of App
Store API you can download all applications information along with their
developer, description, images and so on.

Looks like SPAM to me.