Ping IP OK, Ping Name Not OK, Internet OK, Internetwork not

[Guest]

Repeat request:

I have a home network of 4 computers on a netwrk 8 port switch and DSL Modem
conected via the network to the switch. I can access the net but not the
other computers although they can talk to themselves just fine.

All computers but my main one talk to each other, it cannot see anyone else
on the network:
*It works OK through the network to the Internet
*It can IP ping all other computers OK
*It can name ping itself OK
*It cannot name ping the other computers
Assume all names verified including network name, all firewalls off, and all
computers have manually assigned IP addresses within the same range

The only thing I can glean from Microsoft is:

*Ping Host name of remote host
Ping uses name resolution to resolve a computer name into an IP address.
Therefore, if you successfully ping an IP address but you cannot ping a
computer name, there is a problem with host name resolution, not with network
connectivity. Verify that DNS server addresses are configured for the
computer, either manually in the properties of TCP/IP, or by automatic
assignment. If DNS server addresses are listed when you type the ipconfig
/all command, try to ping the server addresses to make sure that they are
accessible.*

OK if there is name resolution how can you fix it or even understand the
problem of converting addresses into IP addresses Maybe the names should
emulate the IP Addresses.

All DNS server addresses are the same assuming we are talking about the ISP
server adresses, regardless they are all the same, I have compared each one
agaonst the other and they seem identical.

I have IPCONFIG'd, & I have BRWSTAT'd. Nothing out of the ordinary (to me).
In Browstat I can only get the /HELP and nothing else, assuming I'm using it
correctly: browstat /status (I tried all 9)

Any ideas?

Ron
Akl NZ

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

Repeat request:

I have a home network of 4 computers on a netwrk 8 port switch and DSL Modem
conected via the network to the switch. I can access the net but not the
other computers although they can talk to themselves just fine.

All computers but my main one talk to each other, it cannot see anyone else
on the network:
*It works OK through the network to the Internet
*It can IP ping all other computers OK
*It can name ping itself OK
*It cannot name ping the other computers
Assume all names verified including network name, all firewalls off, and all
computers have manually assigned IP addresses within the same range

The only thing I can glean from Microsoft is:

*Ping Host name of remote host
Ping uses name resolution to resolve a computer name into an IP address.
Therefore, if you successfully ping an IP address but you cannot ping a
computer name, there is a problem with host name resolution, not with network
connectivity. Verify that DNS server addresses are configured for the
computer, either manually in the properties of TCP/IP, or by automatic
assignment. If DNS server addresses are listed when you type the ipconfig
/all command, try to ping the server addresses to make sure that they are
accessible.*

OK if there is name resolution how can you fix it or even understand the
problem of converting addresses into IP addresses Maybe the names should
emulate the IP Addresses.

All DNS server addresses are the same assuming we are talking about the ISP
server adresses, regardless they are all the same, I have compared each one
agaonst the other and they seem identical.

I have IPCONFIG'd, & I have BRWSTAT'd. Nothing out of the ordinary (to me).
In Browstat I can only get the /HELP and nothing else, assuming I'm using it
correctly: browstat /status (I tried all 9)

Any ideas?

Ron
Akl NZ

A workgroup network like yours uses NetBIOS name resolution, not DNS,
to resolve computer names.

Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on the main computer:

1. Open the Network Connections folder.
2. Right click the local area network connection.
3. Click Properties.
4. Double click Internet Protocol (TCP/IP).
5. Click Advanced.
6. Click WINS.
7. Click the Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP button.

If that doesn't fix it, Run "ipconfig /all" and look at the "Node
Type" at the beginning of the output. If it says "Peer-to-Peer"
(which should actually be "Point-to-Point") that's the problem. It
means that the computer only uses a WINS server, which isn't available
on a peer-to-peer network for NetBIOS name resolution.

If that's the case, run the registry editor, open this key:

HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parameters

and delete these values if they're present:

NodeType
DhcpNodeType

Reboot, then try network access again.

If that doesn't fix it, open that registry key again, create a DWORD
value called "NodeType", and set it to 1 for "Broadcast" or 4 for
"Mixed".

For details, see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:

Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;160177

TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314053
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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[Guest]

Steve,

Thank you for your input, it sounds like you know what you are doing. I on
the other hand am wallowing.

Based on your suggestions, I enabled NETBIOS, but the funny thing is it
doesn't give any problem in doing it, it just doesn't do it. See the ipconfig
/all list below: NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled even though it
is set to #2 enable.

I also note my Nobe type is "Unknown" I hope these are good clues!

Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : rons-2ghz
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine III Fast Ethernet Adapter #3

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-20-ED-7A-04-D3
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.3
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 203.109.252.42 203.109.252.43

NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Cheers
Ron in Kiwicountry

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

Steve,

Thank you for your input, it sounds like you know what you are doing. I on
the other hand am wallowing.

Based on your suggestions, I enabled NETBIOS, but the funny thing is it
doesn't give any problem in doing it, it just doesn't do it. See the ipconfig
/all list below: NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled even though it
is set to #2 enable.

I also note my Nobe type is "Unknown" I hope these are good clues!

Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : rons-2ghz
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine III Fast Ethernet Adapter #3

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-20-ED-7A-04-D3
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.3
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 203.109.252.42 203.109.252.43

NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Cheers
Ron in Kiwicountry

Make sure that you:

1. Configured NetBIOS over TCP/IP on the right network connection.

2. Set it to "Enabled", not to "Default".

3. Clicked the OK button afterward.

If you did, I don't know why it would show as disabled in the ipconfig
output. Perhaps a reboot would help.

Node type "Unknown" is OK. Only "Peer-to-Peer" is a problem.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

 

[Guest]

Make sure that you:

1. Configured NetBIOS over TCP/IP on the right network connection.

2. Set it to "Enabled", not to "Default".

3. Clicked the OK button afterward.

If you did, I don't know why it would show as disabled in the ipconfig
output. Perhaps a reboot would help.

Node type "Unknown" is OK. Only "Peer-to-Peer" is a problem.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Thanks for that Steve, I'm getting pretty frustrated:

Observations:
[1] Regedit and search for:
HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parameters could find nothing
with a HLM prefix
[2] I confirm the BetBios over TCIP is selected when I enter the box now
(Not Deafualt)
[3] I have tried ticking and unticking the Enable LMHOST lookup, whatever
that is
[4] In my network neighborhood I can't see my own icon
Regards,
Ron in Kiwicountry