Ping Colin Barnhorst

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Dear Colin,

I do respect you because you are a decent person and are willing to provide
help even many people don't know that because, unfortunately, you were
absent for a while due to health issue.

I am glad to know that you are covering and doing well now.

But please do not relate yourself to other "Most Vulnerable Persons" and I
respect you not because of your title (as you rarely put into your message)
but because of mentioned characters.

I rarely came to this newsgroup now, but many are correctly pointed out,
that the majority of MVP's are self-centered and arrogant if anything else,
and thus put themselves into the Most Vulnerable Persons category, for they
can't build up self-confidence without having a meaningless title and have
no sensitivity nor the capability of independent thinking nor an open mind.

All in all, it's nobody but MVPs who have destroyed their own reputation.

Feel sorry for you and less than 1% of other fine "MVPs" who have been doing
true "voluntary" works.

Best wishes and I do respect you just to let you know that.

 

[Mike Hall]

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When anybody buys a brand new product, there are always going to be some
issues. If you were around for the XP release, you will know that this is a
re-enactment.

It is a fact of life that a purchaser has the responsibility of checking out
products before buying them. Most shy off new products for at least six to
12 months, business especially. Even then, the new stuff is rigorously
tested to ensure that it is 100% suitable.

The hardware support for Vista hasn't been that bad, certainly not as bad as
it could have been, but some manufacturers were determined they were not
going to respond to Vista until the public release, and I have had a few
quite heated discussions with one or two of them.

As has been explained more than a few times, programs can be written to only
install on a particular OS, and this is partly done for marketing purposes.
It ensures that at least once every four years, there will be a market for
new software. The same applies to hardware, and not surprisingly, MVPs are
victims of this too.

Certainly, if anybody bought a printer or anything last year that does not
work with Vista, and where there are no plans by the manufacturer to do
anything about it, then we feel for the people but the 'blame' rests with
the manufacturer. No amount of name calling aimed at MVPs or MS will ever
change that.

MVPs have also been left with some software that doesn't work, and no, we
are not happy about it either, but at least we know where to complain that
will get either answers or a solution.

Vista is not perfect, but it does work well for some depending upon
individual set ups. For people unused to any kind of security, UAC can be a
royal pain. Transfer rates across networks can be really bad. File manager
looks different almost every time that it is opened, and it is next to
impossible sometimes to get the same look twice. Some things have been moved
from where one may expect to find them in XP, but then this isn't XP.

It is different to XP. Many changes have been made to the look and the guts.
Some have worked better than others. Some people don't like change anyway.
With XP, one change was the Fischer Price look.. Now some don't like the
black of Vista.

Vista is not a bad operating system, and it will get better just like XP
did. For the first two years, and maybe longer, some whined about XP being
crap and that Win 98 was the best ever. Now the same people are deriding
Vista, saying that XP was brilliant and nobody should switch.

Many come here for help and to help. Nobody who tries to help another with
Vista problems should be insulted or intimidated. If people have problems,
they should ask in the same manner as they would in a store. If they do
that, they will get a decent response. It may not be the answer they want to
hear, but it will be said in good faith.

Colin Barnhorst puts a great deal of effort into what he does. Blanket
statements to the effect of 'anybody who supports or says that Vista is any
good at all is stupid and an MS fanboy' are totally unfair. We are all
volunteers, and allegations that we use this place to garner for paid
business is unfair and unjust.

This particular newsgroup is being slowly brought down to the level of of
the 'no holds barred' alt.os groups by people whose prime motivation is
exactly that. If Colin doesn't feel that he wants to operate in such an
environment, I feel sure that you can understand why.

Dear Colin,

I do respect you because you are a decent person and are willing to
provide help even many people don't know that because, unfortunately, you
were absent for a while due to health issue.

I am glad to know that you are covering and doing well now.

But please do not relate yourself to other "Most Vulnerable Persons" and I
respect you not because of your title (as you rarely put into your
message) but because of mentioned characters.

I rarely came to this newsgroup now, but many are correctly pointed out,
that the majority of MVP's are self-centered and arrogant if anything
else, and thus put themselves into the Most Vulnerable Persons category,
for they can't build up self-confidence without having a meaningless title
and have no sensitivity nor the capability of independent thinking nor an
open mind.

All in all, it's nobody but MVPs who have destroyed their own reputation.

Feel sorry for you and less than 1% of other fine "MVPs" who have been
doing true "voluntary" works.

Best wishes and I do respect you just to let you know that.

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

 

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We are all volunteers, and allegations that we use this place to garner for

paid business is unfair and unjust.

It's unfair and unjust if this is a generalized allegation but it is a well
founded accusation for many including at least one current MS employee who
is doing the same for his side-job in another newsgroup.

It is not my intension to generalize all MVPs so I hope you would have to
same attitude.

If Colin doesn't feel that he wants to operate in such an environment, I
feel sure that you can understand why.

I understand why and this is the reason for my message.

Finally, I am not here to discuss or debate if Vista or any MS products are
good or not, and I am neither a Linux nor MS fanboy (or I wasted my
education and training), and I've done my share of feedback long before.
And yes, I was around since the release of DOS 3.0 so I guess that also put
me to be around when XP was released.

Good or bad, time will tell. But if a person perceived himself as a
professional, he should at least know how to (or not to) respond other's
comments - good or bad, favorable or unfavorable. Unfortunately, that is
not the case. So go figure it out.

One final thought - just how many people here have done or have gone through
some major changes in their life (other than changed to a new system or a
new app, OS, etc.) for which qualified them to comment that people are
reluctant to take changes? How many of you have sufficient academic and/or
professional backgrounds for discussing change management and what kind of
changes are productive vs. destructive? It just amazes me to see how often
this "people are reluctant to take changes" argument is being used without
any solid knowledge behind the argument.

Well, sorry for jumping in again. But my intension is to pay my personal
respect to Colin Barnhorst and a few other qualified professionals.

Nothing more and nothing less and I will not respond anymore.

My apology for those feel offended but I don't feel sorry for what I said.

Good luck and good bye.

 

[Plato]

I rarely came to this newsgroup now, but many are correctly pointed out,
that the majority of MVP's are self-centered and arrogant if anything else,

Incorrect...

 

[Guest]

I see countless attacks on the MVP's by people like you. I think the mistake
they make is responding to drivel that people post here. You don't like a
particular MVP then don't read a posting that MVP has made, why is that suck
a hard concept to grasp?

I come to this user group to engage in intelligent conversation only find
third grade level intellects who have nothing better to do than complain
about someone else's attitude. You cannot control the behaviors of others but
you can control your behavior. Instead of spending 10 minutes whining about
what a jerk an MVP is, answer a few posts! Heaven forbid you ACTUALLY do
something helpful!

You know if I were one of these MVP's and had to be constantly defend myself
against the Linux flamers, the Mac Addicts, and other whiners then I might
have a bit of chip on my shoulder. Give it up and move on.

 

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You don't like a

particular MVP [person] then don't read a posting that MVP [person] has
made,

Well said, how about yourself?

You cannot control the behaviors of others but
you can control your behavior.

Well said How about yourself? Did I join any other threads or yours?

Give it up and move on.

Again, well said. How about yourself?

I guess you can talk like an intelligent people but only act like a child.
Well, too many losers are acting the same under my supervision.

Move on.