PC's not seeing each other

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Mark Flynn

Hi Chuck:
I greatly appreciate your time and expertise. My previous posts to you are
such a mish-mash that I decided to start over (and get with the program).

I have two PC's. One is a ThinkPad X60s laptop running WinXP Pro. The
other is a desktop running Win2k Pro.
ipconfig /all

The desktop is :
Host Name: mark
Primary DNS Suffix:
Node Type: Broadcast
IP routing Enabled: No
WINS Proxy Enabled: No
DHCP Enabled: Yes
IP Address: 10.168.106.53
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
default gateway 10.168.106.1
DHCP Server: 10.168.106.1
DNS Servers: 216.104.64.5, 216.104.72.5
==================
The ThinkPad X60s is:
Host Name: MARK-X60S
Primary DNS Suffix:
Node Type: Unknown
IP Routing enabled: No
WINS Proxy Enabled: No

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix:
Dhcp Enabled: Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled: Yes
IP Address: 10.168.106.51
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
default gateway 10.168.106.1
DHCP Server: 10.168.106.1
DNS Servers: 216.104.64.5, 216.104.72.5

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Dhcp Enabled: Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled: Yes
IP Address: 10.168.106.52
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 10.168.106.1
DHCP Server: 10.168.106.1
DNS Servers: 216.104.64.5, 216.104.72.5

NetBIOS Over TCP is active on both PC's
I've disabled the windows security firewall on the X60s, and the firewall on
the desktop, and as far as I know all firewalls are disabled (temporarily).

The My Network Places on the desktop can see the X60s, but gives an "X60s
not accessible. Network path was not found" when I click on it.
The My Network Places on the X60s sees the desktop PC. And I can access the
shared folders on the desktop PC. Initially the Desktop is not visible -
but then eventually appears.

I can ping the desktop from the X60s, but not visa-versa. Pinging the X60s
from the desktop PC gives me a "Request timed out".

Both machines are peer to peer "WORKGROUP" and each has its own name.

I strongly suspect that the X60s is the culprit because I have a third
desktop PC, and the two desktops communicate correctly. (I have turned off
the third PC to simplify matters.)
All of the shared folders are available to "Everyone" on both machines.

The PC's are cat-5 wired through a DSL router/DHCP server etc.
I can access the Internet, send/receive email on both machines.

Thanks, Mark Flynn
 
C

Chuck

Hi Chuck:
I greatly appreciate your time and expertise. My previous posts to you are
such a mish-mash that I decided to start over (and get with the program).

I have two PC's. One is a ThinkPad X60s laptop running WinXP Pro. The
other is a desktop running Win2k Pro.
ipconfig /all

The desktop is :
Host Name: mark
Primary DNS Suffix:
Node Type: Broadcast
IP routing Enabled: No
WINS Proxy Enabled: No
DHCP Enabled: Yes
IP Address: 10.168.106.53
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
default gateway 10.168.106.1
DHCP Server: 10.168.106.1
DNS Servers: 216.104.64.5, 216.104.72.5
==================
The ThinkPad X60s is:
Host Name: MARK-X60S
Primary DNS Suffix:
Node Type: Unknown
IP Routing enabled: No
WINS Proxy Enabled: No

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix:
Dhcp Enabled: Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled: Yes
IP Address: 10.168.106.51
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
default gateway 10.168.106.1
DHCP Server: 10.168.106.1
DNS Servers: 216.104.64.5, 216.104.72.5

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Dhcp Enabled: Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled: Yes
IP Address: 10.168.106.52
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 10.168.106.1
DHCP Server: 10.168.106.1
DNS Servers: 216.104.64.5, 216.104.72.5

NetBIOS Over TCP is active on both PC's
I've disabled the windows security firewall on the X60s, and the firewall on
the desktop, and as far as I know all firewalls are disabled (temporarily).

The My Network Places on the desktop can see the X60s, but gives an "X60s
not accessible. Network path was not found" when I click on it.
The My Network Places on the X60s sees the desktop PC. And I can access the
shared folders on the desktop PC. Initially the Desktop is not visible -
but then eventually appears.

I can ping the desktop from the X60s, but not visa-versa. Pinging the X60s
from the desktop PC gives me a "Request timed out".

Both machines are peer to peer "WORKGROUP" and each has its own name.

I strongly suspect that the X60s is the culprit because I have a third
desktop PC, and the two desktops communicate correctly. (I have turned off
the third PC to simplify matters.)
All of the shared folders are available to "Everyone" on both machines.

The PC's are cat-5 wired through a DSL router/DHCP server etc.
I can access the Internet, send/receive email on both machines.

Thanks, Mark Flynn
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Mark,

OK, both Mark and Mark-X60S are on the same subnet (10.168.106.0/24). Both have
compatible node types (Broadcast and Unknown are OK). If you're getting
"Request timed out" when pinging, you have either a firewall problem, or an LSP
/ Winsock problem.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html

If neither of those articles provide any clues, then we'll do some relational
analysis. But that will be more productive, if you'll provide the "ipconfig
/all" for the third computer.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html#Four>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html#Four
 
M

Mark Flynn

Chuck said:
Mark,

OK, both Mark and Mark-X60S are on the same subnet (10.168.106.0/24). Both have
compatible node types (Broadcast and Unknown are OK). If you're getting
"Request timed out" when pinging, you have either a firewall problem, or an LSP
/ Winsock problem.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-hel
p.html>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.ht
ml>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html

If neither of those articles provide any clues, then we'll do some relational
analysis. But that will be more productive, if you'll provide the "ipconfig
/all" for the third computer.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.htm
l#Four>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html#Four
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Hi Chuck:
On your "personal-firewall..." page "check for a bundled firewall first": I
think it is a firewall somewhere.
But first - the ipconfig /all for the third PC desktop.
This PC is running Win98se
TCP/IP - Client for Microsoft Networks
Under "File and printer sharing for Microsoft Networks - Browse Master =
disabled
LM Announce = No
ipconfig /all
(my DOS screen does not allow me to page up to view info at the top of the
report. So here is what I can see on the screen)
DHCP Enabled: Yes
IP Address: 0.0.0.0
Subnet Mask: 0.0.0.0
Default Gateway:
DHCP Seerver: 255.255.255.255
Primary WINS Server:
Secondary WINS Server:
Lease Obtained:
Lease Expires:

2 Ethernet adapter:
Description: 3Com EtherLink PCI
Physical Address: 00-C0-F903-1E-2F
DHCP Enabled: Yes
IP Address: 10.168.106.56
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 10.168.106.1
DHCP Server: 10.168.106.1
Primary WINS Server:
Secondary WINS Server:
Lease Obtained: 09 04 06 7:09:27 AM
Lease Expires: 09 05 06 7:09:27 AM

In the Win98 desktop's Network Neighborhood:
I can see some of the shared folders on "mark" but not all of them.
I can see Mark-x60s (with the comment) but get \\Mark-60s is not accessible.
The computer or sharename could not be found. Make sure you typed it
correctly and try again" when I click on it. I can not ping Mark-x60s -
"Request timed out"

On ThinkPad MARK-X60S - Local Area Connection Properties:
(all checked)
Client for Microsoft Networks
AGN VPN Client
File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks
QoS Packet Scheduler
AT&T Wi-Fi Support Driver
Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)

On MARK-X60S - Wireless Network Connection Porperties
(all checked)
Client for Microsoft Networks
AGN VPN Client
File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks
QoS Packet Scheduler
AT&T Wi-Fi Support Driver
AEGIS Protocol (IEEE 802.1x) v3.4.9.0
WLAN Transport
Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)

On MARK-X60S - My Network Places (initially only the local PC MARK-X60S
appears, then later the Win2k desktop named Mark appears. Sometimes "Mark"
folders are viewable and other times I get: "Mark is not accessible. You
might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the
admiistrator of this server to fing out if you have access permissions. The
network path was not found"
On MARK-X60S - I currently do not see the Win98 desktop PC in My Network
Places.
ALSO it takes about a minute to see any shared PC's when I expand the
"Microsoft Windos Network" on all of the PC's

Best regards, Mark Flynn
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C

Chuck

Chuck said:
Hi Chuck:
On your "personal-firewall..." page "check for a bundled firewall first": I
think it is a firewall somewhere.
But first - the ipconfig /all for the third PC desktop.
This PC is running Win98se
TCP/IP - Client for Microsoft Networks
Under "File and printer sharing for Microsoft Networks - Browse Master =
disabled
LM Announce = No
ipconfig /all
(my DOS screen does not allow me to page up to view info at the top of the
report. So here is what I can see on the screen)
DHCP Enabled: Yes
IP Address: 0.0.0.0
Subnet Mask: 0.0.0.0
Default Gateway:
DHCP Seerver: 255.255.255.255
Primary WINS Server:
Secondary WINS Server:
Lease Obtained:
Lease Expires:

2 Ethernet adapter:
Description: 3Com EtherLink PCI
Physical Address: 00-C0-F903-1E-2F
DHCP Enabled: Yes
IP Address: 10.168.106.56
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 10.168.106.1
DHCP Server: 10.168.106.1
Primary WINS Server:
Secondary WINS Server:
Lease Obtained: 09 04 06 7:09:27 AM
Lease Expires: 09 05 06 7:09:27 AM

In the Win98 desktop's Network Neighborhood:
I can see some of the shared folders on "mark" but not all of them.
I can see Mark-x60s (with the comment) but get \\Mark-60s is not accessible.
The computer or sharename could not be found. Make sure you typed it
correctly and try again" when I click on it. I can not ping Mark-x60s -
"Request timed out"

On ThinkPad MARK-X60S - Local Area Connection Properties:
(all checked)
Client for Microsoft Networks
AGN VPN Client
File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks
QoS Packet Scheduler
AT&T Wi-Fi Support Driver
Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)

On MARK-X60S - Wireless Network Connection Porperties
(all checked)
Client for Microsoft Networks
AGN VPN Client
File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks
QoS Packet Scheduler
AT&T Wi-Fi Support Driver
AEGIS Protocol (IEEE 802.1x) v3.4.9.0
WLAN Transport
Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)

On MARK-X60S - My Network Places (initially only the local PC MARK-X60S
appears, then later the Win2k desktop named Mark appears. Sometimes "Mark"
folders are viewable and other times I get: "Mark is not accessible. You
might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the
admiistrator of this server to fing out if you have access permissions. The
network path was not found"
On MARK-X60S - I currently do not see the Win98 desktop PC in My Network
Places.
ALSO it takes about a minute to see any shared PC's when I expand the
"Microsoft Windos Network" on all of the PC's

Best regards, Mark Flynn
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Mark,

Please reread my articles about browstat and ipconfig, and carefully compare the
examples therein against what you are posting. There are a few details in
there, that you seem to be missing. Using Copy - Paste, without editing, is the
best way to get all details into your post.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/reading-ipconfig-and-diagnosing.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/reading-ipconfig-and-diagnosing.html

If you're seeing changing visibility (sometimes folders are visible, other times
not), you are seeing the master browser change. We need to see browstat
reports.

Note that browstat can't be run from Windows 98. You will want to run "browstat
listwfw (workgroup)" from each Windows XP computer. Read the articles please.
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