PCI Express

[ThermosBoy (TM)]

The 'inquirer' is nothing but a bunch of dorks, sitting around, speculating
and perpetrating rumors.

Please point me to some rumours they have perpetrated that came out to
be intentionally misleding or untrue to back up your claims.

 

[bob cox]

..... this thread is so lost. Now this dude is talking about regular
pci video cards.

 

[Wayne Youngman]

Remember early AGP boards? Early USB boards? etc...
Same deal. Immature technology, no benefit for some time, took a while
for compliant devices to come out, took even longer for the cards to
exploit the speed available, took a while for an OS to take full
advantage, had early problems, etc.

Hi,

I totally agree with the above comments. The First *Incarnations* of any
new hardware are normally pretty rough. I do indeed remember my first mobo
with AGP (VIA with K6III 450MHz). The standard was so new that some boards
had very roughly sized AGP ports, so the AGP graphic cards didn't fit all
that well and would be loose.

Also getting the right *O/S Driver* support takes some time, heheh I
remember the Voodoo you had to do with *Windows 95* to get USB v1.0
working!. Then came Windows 98 SE with out the box support, oh joy!

PCI express looks interesting on paper, but I don't expect it will be
available/stable any time in 2004, so relax

 

[Skid]

.... this thread is so lost. Now this dude is talking about regular
pci video cards.

Try to keep up, dude.

He was making a point that it is unlikely that ATI and Nvidia will stop
making AGP cards in a few months when PCI Express is introduced because they
are still making PCI cards years after the AGP standard was introduced.

And he's right.

You're right, too. This thread is so lost.

 

[bob cox]

Try to keep up, dude.

He was making a point that it is unlikely that ATI and Nvidia will stop
making AGP cards in a few months when PCI Express is introduced because they
are still making PCI cards years after the AGP standard was introduced.

And he's right.

You're right, too. This thread is so lost.

Oh NOW I get it. Words are fun.

 

[Darthy]

Read the article again.

Intel and its partners are * hoping * PCI-Express will become the new
standard.

Uh... I am pretty much sure by 99% it will be replacing AGP... much
more improvement... and cheaper... now when someone buys a POS
computer, they can install a cheap yet decent video card.

Additionally, the reviewer, from PCStats, is stating that nVidia and ATI
will not be producing AGP boards beyond Q4:2004, that is not six months, but
a full year from now. Furthermore this is pure speculation on the author's
part, with zero facts given to back it up.

Within a year sounds good... what HARD CORE gamer is going to buy a
GeForce 7700-Ultra SSX and NOT have PCI-EX slotted computer?

AGP will spend about 1~2 years dying... there is money in the AFTER
MARKET... oh yeah, they still make GF2 cards.

 

[Tim]

5 - No card on the market has out paced the AGP 4x slot... the next
GEN Nvidia & ATI cards are going to be within the spec of AGP 8x
abilities. They'd piss off lots of people to not make an AGP
varient. but yes, AGP is going to DIE soon. Trust me, they'd rather
sell you a $200~300 card today (AGP) rather than make you wait a year
or so to upgrade YOUR system to use a $200~300 card then. Why?
Cause you may upgrade today (I'm talking next 3-4 months) and upgrade
again when YOU do get a PCI-EXpress system.

As long as there is a demand for AGP, they will meet that demand. After all,
they're all competing for your dollar. And as you say, if they can make you
buy the same card twice, that much the better.

 

[Tim]

Read the article again.

Intel and its partners are * hoping * PCI-Express will become the new
standard.

Additionally, the reviewer, from PCStats, is stating that nVidia and ATI
will not be producing AGP boards beyond Q4:2004, that is not six months, but
a full year from now. Furthermore this is pure speculation on the author's
part, with zero facts given to back it up.

Sounds like the same kind of aggressive prediction PC Mag's John C Dvorak
would give.