PC not showing in WORKGROUP

K

Kappa

I have connected my desktop to my laptop through a LAN cable. Both the
PCs are in the same workgroup, but for some reason my desktop does not
show my laptop under the workgroup. My laptop does show both of them
and also I can ping both the PCs.

I disabled the Firewalls on both before checking. Can anybody help?


Thanks

Kappa
 
R

R. McCarty

Direct connections ( no Router, Hub or Switch ) requires a cable called
a "Crossover" Ethernet Cable. This isn't the same as a normal cable.
 
K

Kappa

Direct connections ( no Router, Hub or Switch ) requires a cable called
a "Crossover" Ethernet Cable. This isn't the same as a normal cable.







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Considering the fact that two PCs are showing under workgroup in one
of the PCs, I think I'm using the right cable. If I was using the
wrong cable, wouldn't be it showing nothing at all in My Network
Places on either of the PC's?
 
R

R. McCarty

It appears you're using a "Crossover" not "Patch" Ethernet cable
if the Workgroup is showing a one-way network. At this point it
is likely a 3rd-Party security app or one of XP's Security items is
preventing the 2nd PC from participating. Could be things like a
account with no password or "Simple File Sharing" issues, ACLs.

As to identifying Ethernet cables, the following has a good chart
with the wire color coding:
http://www.incentre.net/incentre/frame/ethernet.html
*Sometimes a crossover cable with actually have Crossover
imprinted on the outer covering to make it easier to identify.
 
F

Frank\(FL\)

Kappa said:
I have connected my desktop to my laptop through a LAN cable. Both the
PCs are in the same workgroup, but for some reason my desktop does not
show my laptop under the workgroup. My laptop does show both of them
and also I can ping both the PCs.

I disabled the Firewalls on both before checking. Can anybody help?


Thanks

Kappa

Needed:
Same workgroup
Same user
Same password
Blanks will not work
 
M

M.I.5¾

Frank(FL) said:
Needed:
Same workgroup
Same user
Same password
Blanks will not work

Actually for most home networking, it is not necessary for the computers to
belong to the same Workgroup.
 
N

nl

Actually for most home networking, it is not necessary for the computers to
belong to the same Workgroup.
In my admittedly limited experience it is always necessary.

The OP should check not only that the PCs are in the same workgroup
but that the workgroup name is spelt correctly and is in the right
case - workgroup names are case sensitive: ie MSHOME is not the same
as MShome. Also that the machine has been rebooted after the
workgroup name has been changed.
 
M

M.I.5¾

nl said:
In my admittedly limited experience it is always necessary.

The OP should check not only that the PCs are in the same workgroup
but that the workgroup name is spelt correctly and is in the right
case - workgroup names are case sensitive: ie MSHOME is not the same
as MShome. Also that the machine has been rebooted after the
workgroup name has been changed.

On my home system, One PC is a member of MSHOME, one is a member of
MYNETWORK, the third is a member of PREINSTAL and the PDA has no workgroup
at all. All will happily talk to each other.

I repeat: for simple systems, it is not necessary for the PCs to be members
of the same workgroup.

The only requirement is that the accounts must be the same and have the same
passwords on all the machines*. Also all the firewalls need to be
configured to allow communications from the other IP addresses.

*This last bit is not necessarily the case. Although disk access may be
blocked, printer access will require the user to input the password of
destination machine.
 
N

nl

I have connected my desktop to my laptop through a LAN cable. Both the
On my home system, One PC is a member of MSHOME, one is a member of
MYNETWORK, the third is a member of PREINSTAL and the PDA has no workgroup
at all. All will happily talk to each other.

I repeat: for simple systems, it is not necessary for the PCs to be members
of the same workgroup.

The only requirement is that the accounts must be the same and have the same
passwords on all the machines*. Also all the firewalls need to be
configured to allow communications from the other IP addresses.

Ah, right. Mine being a home network, each user has their own account
unique to their PC, and no-one uses passwords to access either their
PC or the printer, which is always available to everyone in the
workgroup. I have only been able to get the machines to talk to each
other if they are a member of the same workgroup.
 

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