PC Mag utilities found on ftp mirror

[H-Man]

Still on this page:

http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/free_issues/

there are some free issues a person can download in .pdf format.

I'll look them over and decide if it's worth the $24 for a subscription.
Thanks, Mel!

John, you can check it out, but in the long haul, you were right in your
first assesment. It's really just turned into a rag with no real substance.
Unfortunately most computer mags ended up like this. PC magazine, my sister
gave me a subscription as a gift, has very little of use in it, except for
the odd product review, and you can find that stuff on the web. User
experience generally offers a better guideline than the technobabble given
in mags anyway IMO. I can't prove anything here but I often think that the
reviews in PC Mag are slanted to give the edge to the companies that pay
off. The one exception to this, again this is my personal opinion, is
Maximum PC. I've had a subscription to this one for some years and for the
time being will continue to subscribe.

That's my 2p worth anyway.

 

[John Corliss]

(clipped)
Be it as it may, restricted license agreements (forbidding distribution)
can be found since May 1999:

http://web.archive.org -> www.zdnet.com/pcmag/utilities/license.html

Ye Gods! Has it really been that long? I guess it's true.....

"Life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer you get to the end, the
faster it goes."

 

[fitwell]

[snip]

But isn't that tricky? If we obtained it as freeware and are sharing
that copy with others, i.e., in alt.binaries.freeware, how can that
fall under any of those so-called restrictions??

 

[fitwell]

[snip]

But isn't that tricky? If we obtained it as freeware and are sharing
that copy with others, i.e., in alt.binaries.freeware, how can that
fall under any of those so-called restrictions??

Never mind the question. I wasn't aware of how PCMag worked. I
benefited from having these apps when they were freeware and being
shared all around. I still have the same ones that I was using in
those days but only ever shared one once, I believe. Anyway, I just
finished reading the whole PCMag thread. Interesting reading. Thanks
for the education.

 

[Susan Bugher]

But isn't that tricky? If we obtained it as freeware and are sharing
that copy with others, i.e., in alt.binaries.freeware, how can that
fall under any of those so-called restrictions??

Read these quotes (from the Cookiecop 2.2 zip file):

LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR PC MAGAZINE UTILITIES

1. Limited License
Ziff-Davis grants you a non-exclusive, non-transferable license to
install and use the Software in a single location on a hard disk or
other storage device, and to make a single archival copy of the Software.

Ziff-Davis grants you a non-exclusive, non-transferable license to use
the source code distributed with PC Magazine utilities for educational,
non-commercial purposes only. Under no circumstances may you distribute
any unaltered or altered version of the Software through any means,
including, without limitation, personal bulletin boards, ftp sites,
CompuServe, the Web, floppy disk or other storage device, or under any
name, including without limitation, your name, Ziff-Davis' name or any
third party's name, nor may you distribute or market programs that
contain altered or unaltered portions of the Software's source code. In
no event shall Ziff-Davis' distribution of the source code with the
Software imply or result in a diminishment or impairment of Ziff-Davis'
rights in the Software or the source code of the Software, including,
without limitation, Ziff-Davis' copyright in the Software or the source
code of the Software.

2. Additional Restrictions
A. You shall not copy the Software or any component thereof, except
for a single archival copy pursuant to paragraph 1 above. You shall
not rent, lease, sell or sublicense the Software. Any attempt to do so
shall be void and of no effect. To obtain additional copies of the
Software, refer to the PC Magazine Web site located at
http://www.pcmag.com or PC Magazine's Utilities column.

</q>

IMO there's nothing "tricky" about that. You *cannot* *legally*
*distribute* the apps.

Susan
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Posted to alt.comp.freeware
Search alt.comp.freeware (or read it online):
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Pricelessware & ACF: http://www.pricelesswarehome.org
Pricelessware: http://www.pricelessware.org (not maintained)

 

[pot retsop]

Maybe someone can list similar FREE apps and we will not use these
restricted ware units at all !!

 

[B. R. 'BeAr' Ederson]

On Sat, 7 May 2005, the word-wise mirrored 'top poster' chose to write:

[PCMag utils]

Maybe someone can list similar FREE apps and we will not use these
restricted ware units at all !!

There was a thread last year on that topic. Out of popular interest the
effort to list suitable 'replacements' quickly vanished. You can read a
list of the PCMag utils (accompanied with few alternatives) on the acf
Wiki:

http://www.markcarter.me.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?PCmagUtilities

Better way than your general question would be to ask for the utilities,
you're interested in, one after another. Chances of extensive answers
and multiple choices increase that way, because everybody willingly to
answer has to compile just a little portion of information. (You can
add the information afterwards to the Wiki, if you like... ;-) )

Be sure to check www.pricelesswarehome.org beforehand, too. For commonly
sought after program categories you stand good chances to find a suitable
program, there.

BeAr

 

[John Fitzsimons]

Maybe someone can list similar FREE apps and we will not use these
restricted ware units at all !!

< snip >

"Similar" apps to programs like "Dupeless" are far inferior IMO.