Payroll -- Is it even possible?!

[Wayne-I-M]

H Bruce

the idea that it can be done simply, quickly, and cheaply as an alternative
to off-the-shelf is an unsustainable boast, particularly in the absence of
project details.

I think that is just Steve's way of "hooking" new cutomers. I also think
that everyone on this forum knows that it would be quite a detailed project
to start.

But as I have never met Steve so (as my mum has alwasy told me to do) I will
give him the benifit of doubt and assume that he can do a good job - but I
still dis-agree with his idea of using this forum to advertise. There is a
place for advertising, but (I thinktthat) most people come here for what they
imagine will be free advice - or just a chat about access applications.

 

[BruceM]

Steve has made some good suggestions from time to time, but I have to wonder
why he keeps thinking he can slip in a solicitation or two below the radar.
Also, I tend not to trust the person who low-balls the competition unless
they can make a good case for economy of scale or superior automation or
some such objective criteria.

Then again, Steve may lead a very economical or self-sufficient lifestyle
that requires just a little cash from time to time. Could happen.

H Bruce

the idea that it can be done simply, quickly, and cheaply as an
alternative
to off-the-shelf is an unsustainable boast, particularly in the absence
of
project details.

I think that is just Steve's way of "hooking" new cutomers. I also think
that everyone on this forum knows that it would be quite a detailed
project
to start.

But as I have never met Steve so (as my mum has alwasy told me to do) I
will
give him the benifit of doubt and assume that he can do a good job - but I
still dis-agree with his idea of using this forum to advertise. There is
a
place for advertising, but (I thinktthat) most people come here for what
they
imagine will be free advice - or just a chat about access applications.

 

[BruceM]

Steve has made some good suggestions from time to time, but I have to wonder
why he keeps thinking he can slip in a solicitation or two below the radar.
Also, I tend not to trust the person who low-balls the competition unless
they can make a good case for economy of scale or superior automation or
some such objective criteria.

Then again, Steve may lead a very economical or self-sufficient lifestyle
that requires just a little cash from time to time. Could happen.

H Bruce

the idea that it can be done simply, quickly, and cheaply as an
alternative
to off-the-shelf is an unsustainable boast, particularly in the absence
of
project details.

I think that is just Steve's way of "hooking" new cutomers. I also think
that everyone on this forum knows that it would be quite a detailed
project
to start.

But as I have never met Steve so (as my mum has alwasy told me to do) I
will
give him the benifit of doubt and assume that he can do a good job - but I
still dis-agree with his idea of using this forum to advertise. There is
a
place for advertising, but (I thinktthat) most people come here for what
they
imagine will be free advice - or just a chat about access applications.

 

[Tony Toews [MVP]]

I am attempting to create a Payroll Database. I work for a boating
business. I need the database to contain:

Employee Number (linked to Employee Table)
Employee Name (linked to Employee Table)
Rate of Pay (linked to Rate of Pay Table)
Extra Pay
Boat assigned to (linked to Vessel Information Table)
Date

FWIW I would call this a Time Keeping database and not a payroll
database. I suspect that is causing some confusion to some of the
posters here.

Tony

 

[Tony Toews [MVP]]

I am attempting to create a Payroll Database. I work for a boating
business. I need the database to contain:

Employee Number (linked to Employee Table)
Employee Name (linked to Employee Table)
Rate of Pay (linked to Rate of Pay Table)
Extra Pay
Boat assigned to (linked to Vessel Information Table)
Date

FWIW I would call this a Time Keeping database and not a payroll
database. I suspect that is causing some confusion to some of the
posters here.

Tony

 

[John... Visio MVP]

It is not my intention to low-ball the competition.

You really do not get it. These newsgroups are for FREE help. How can you
low ball FREE?

In fact I don't consider anyone in the newsgroups competition.

Considering your past demonstration of your "skills", you are definitely not
competition.

I am altruistic and believe in helping people.

Not really the only one you are interested in helping is yourself.

I have done umpteen small projects like this and everyone is happy.

but they do not seem to want to come to your defense.

Steve

John... Visio MVP

 

[John... Visio MVP]

It is not my intention to low-ball the competition.

You really do not get it. These newsgroups are for FREE help. How can you
low ball FREE?

In fact I don't consider anyone in the newsgroups competition.

Considering your past demonstration of your "skills", you are definitely not
competition.

I am altruistic and believe in helping people.

Not really the only one you are interested in helping is yourself.

I have done umpteen small projects like this and everyone is happy.

but they do not seem to want to come to your defense.

Steve

John... Visio MVP

 

[tina]

thanks for the clarification, RE. turns out i didn't guess too far off the
mark. i stand by my original advice: if you're prepared to invest a
significant amount of time and energy into learning relational design
principles, and then learning to use the Access tool to build the
application you need, go for it. to get started, see
http://home.att.net/~california.db/tips.html#aTip1.

i firmly believe that 1) no database is simple enough to build badly, and 2)
any data important enough for a company to store and analyze must be be
stored correctly so that analysis yields valid information.

hth

 

[tina]

thanks for the clarification, RE. turns out i didn't guess too far off the
mark. i stand by my original advice: if you're prepared to invest a
significant amount of time and energy into learning relational design
principles, and then learning to use the Access tool to build the
application you need, go for it. to get started, see
http://home.att.net/~california.db/tips.html#aTip1.

i firmly believe that 1) no database is simple enough to build badly, and 2)
any data important enough for a company to store and analyze must be be
stored correctly so that analysis yields valid information.

hth

 

[Keith Wilby]

Visio John, Arno R and Keith Wilby. They provide very little if any help
to posters. There constant attacks are against the intent of the
newsgroups.

A quick search of these groups proves that that is a lie. However, here's
the truth:

http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/whoissteve.html

Oh, and it's "Their". Look it up in one of your reference books.

 

[Keith Wilby]

Visio John, Arno R and Keith Wilby. They provide very little if any help
to posters. There constant attacks are against the intent of the
newsgroups.

A quick search of these groups proves that that is a lie. However, here's
the truth:

http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/whoissteve.html

Oh, and it's "Their". Look it up in one of your reference books.

 

[Wayne-I-M]

Hi John

What is "low-ball" please ?
Non parlo bene inglese

 

[Wayne-I-M]

Hi John

What is "low-ball" please ?
Non parlo bene inglese

 

[BruceM]

The intent of the group is to provide free support and discussion. It is
not a forum for advertising, not even for cheap "solutions". I don't know
what part of that you do not understand.

If you have done "umpteen" projects that make "everyone" happy, why do you
need to troll here? You should be very busy.

I have suggested several times that you get your web site in order. When
somebody has a problem you could point to some explanation or examples on
your web site. While there they could look at the paid services you offer,
but would be under no obligation to do more than look at the free stuff.

I will not go after the people who stop you from using the free newsgroups
as your personal advertising forum, but I will keep my eye on you. Some of
your suggestions are quite good. If your message included a link to your
(well-maintained) web site, no objections.

 

[BruceM]

The intent of the group is to provide free support and discussion. It is
not a forum for advertising, not even for cheap "solutions". I don't know
what part of that you do not understand.

If you have done "umpteen" projects that make "everyone" happy, why do you
need to troll here? You should be very busy.

I have suggested several times that you get your web site in order. When
somebody has a problem you could point to some explanation or examples on
your web site. While there they could look at the paid services you offer,
but would be under no obligation to do more than look at the free stuff.

I will not go after the people who stop you from using the free newsgroups
as your personal advertising forum, but I will keep my eye on you. Some of
your suggestions are quite good. If your message included a link to your
(well-maintained) web site, no objections.

 

[Douglas J. Steele]

In this case, it's the 3rd usage at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lowball

It's a questionable business practise of deliberately pricing your bid to be
lower than anyone else's.

 

[Douglas J. Steele]

In this case, it's the 3rd usage at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lowball

It's a questionable business practise of deliberately pricing your bid to be
lower than anyone else's.

 

[BruceM]

I have to admit I was misusing the term somewhat in that I took it to mean
underbidding the lowest price, but with shoddy work rather than the bidder's
expectation of cost overrun as the outcome of lowballing, but of course
either could hold true, perhaps both at once: ("What did you expect for that
price? I can give you what you want, but it will cost you more.").

 

[BruceM]

I have to admit I was misusing the term somewhat in that I took it to mean
underbidding the lowest price, but with shoddy work rather than the bidder's
expectation of cost overrun as the outcome of lowballing, but of course
either could hold true, perhaps both at once: ("What did you expect for that
price? I can give you what you want, but it will cost you more.").

 

[Wayne-I-M]

Ok, ho capito (completamente - I think