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Guest

I've created a site in FP 2002 using a template. It displays fine in preview,
but when published some of the items move and result in overlapping. While
the biggest issue is vertically, there is also a little movement
horizontally. I've tested it in Netscape, Firefox, Opera and IE. IE is the
closest to what I actually created. What's happening and what can I do about
it?
 
G

Guest

I didn't add any "absolute positioning." I literally used the template so
whatever the default might be is what I used. Is there a way to go back in
and add absolute positioning?
 
G

Guest

I did run the validation tool. 47 errors and no doctype found. I'm blown away
that this result could come back when I used a FP template. What's the best
thing for me to do next?
 
H

Helpful person

I did run the validation tool. 47 errors and no doctype found. I'm blown away
that this result could come back when I used a FP template. What's the best
thing for me to do next?
I'm using Frontpage 2003 and it does not put a doctype at the top of
the page. Can someone tell me if I can just add one in code view? If
I do, what form should it take?

www.richardfisher.com
 
G

Guest

Here's what I did and it worked. Go to this page:
http://www.w3.org/QA/2002/04/valid-dtd-list.html. Copy the code (I used the
first one as it seemed to be what most were recommending online.) Paste it at
the top of your HTML in FP. View it in Normal to make sure that it is hidden.
For some reason, the first time I tried it it showed up at the top of my
page. But once it is there, you should be fine.
 
G

Guest

Copy the code into notepad and then pate it into the source code - this will
help it from showing up on the browser.

Depending on the template - it could be the template code or the code that
FP generated. Did I mention that having the source code or URL would help?
 
H

Helpful person

Thanks Wiley and Corey. I shall do as you suggest.

www.richardfisher.com- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I tried inserting the doctype line at the top of my page and got an
unexpected result. I have two identical pages on the web, the only
difference being the doctype line.

www.richardfisher.com is my originalpage without the doctype
statement.

www.richardfisher/abc.htm is identical with the doctype statement.

As you can see there is a drastic difference. The prism logo, top
title and menu are all include files.

Help anyone!
 
H

Helpful person

I tried inserting the doctype line at the top of my page and got an
unexpected result. I have two identical pages on the web, the only
difference being the doctype line.

www.richardfisher.comis my originalpage without the doctype
statement.

www.richardfisher/abc.htmis identical with the doctype statement.

As you can see there is a drastic difference. The prism logo, top
title and menu are all include files.

Help anyone!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Sorry, second site is www.richardfisher.com/abc.htm
 
S

Stefan B Rusynko

You don't just pick a Doctype out of the "sky"
You are using a XHTML Strict doctype
!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN"
But your page is Not XHTML (not even loose (transitional) Html
At best you should be using
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
But after you apply the doctype Validate your page at say
http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http://www.richardfisher.com/

PS
And your use of absolute positioning will cause differences no matter what doctype you select

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| > Make sure there's always at least one blank space between a URL and
| > other text. i.e.
| >
| > "www.richardfisher.com- Hide" not "www.richardfisher.com-Hide"
| >
| > I see NO difference between the two pages, BTW.
| >
| > On 5/10/2007 8:04 PM, Helpful person wrote:
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > >>> On May 10, 1:11 pm, Corey Bryant
| > >>>> Copy the code into notepad and then pate it into the source code - this will
| > >>>> help it from showing up on the browser.
| > >>>> Depending on the template - it could be the template code or the code that
| > >>>> FP generated. Did I mention that having the source code or URL would help?
| > >>>> --
| > >>>> Corey R. Bryanthttp://www.coreybryant.org|http://www.loudcommerce.com
| > >>>> "Wiley" wrote:
| > >>>>> Here's what I did and it worked. Go to this page:
| > >>>>>http://www.w3.org/QA/2002/04/valid-dtd-list.html. Copy the code (I used the
| > >>>>> first one as it seemed to be what most were recommending online.) Paste it at
| > >>>>> the top of your HTML in FP. View it in Normal to make sure that it is hidden.
| > >>>>> For some reason, the first time I tried it it showed up at the top of my
| > >>>>> page. But once it is there, you should be fine.
| > >>>>> "Helpful person" wrote:
| > >>>>>>> I did run the validation tool. 47 errors and no doctype found. I'm blown away
| > >>>>>>> that this result could come back when I used a FP template. What's the best
| > >>>>>>> thing for me to do next?
| > >>>>>> I'm using Frontpage 2003 and it does not put a doctype at the top of
| > >>>>>> the page. Can someone tell me if I can just add one in code view? If
| > >>>>>> I do, what form should it take?
| > >>>>>>www.richardfisher.com-Hidequotedtext -
| > >>>> - Show quoted text -
| > >>> Thanks Wiley and Corey. I shall do as you suggest.
| > >>>www.richardfisher.com-Hidequoted text -
| > >>> - Show quoted text -
| > >> I tried inserting the doctype line at the top of my page and got an
| > >> unexpected result. I have two identical pages on the web, the only
| > >> difference being the doctype line.
| >
| > >>www.richardfisher.comismy originalpage without the doctype
| > >> statement.
| >
| > >>www.richardfisher/abc.htmisidentical with the doctype statement.
| >
| > >> As you can see there is a drastic difference. The prism logo, top
| > >> title and menu are all include files.
| >
| > >> Help anyone!- Hide quoted text -
| >
| > >> - Show quoted text -
| >
| > > Sorry, second site iswww.richardfisher.com/abc.htm
| >
| > --
| > Paul S. Wolf, PE, FITE mailto:p[email protected] Hide quoted text -
| >
| > - Show quoted text -
|
| On Mozilla they do look the same. However, on Netscape and IE the
| menu is displaced. I assume you are looking with Mozilla.
|
 
H

Helpful person

You don't just pick a Doctype out of the "sky"
You are using a XHTML Strict doctype
!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN"
But your page is Not XHTML (not even loose (transitional) Html
At best you should be using
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
But after you apply the doctype Validate your page at sayhttp://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http://www.richardfisher....

PS
And your use of absolute positioning will cause differences no matter what doctype you select

--

It seems that most of my "incompatibilities" are due to Frontpage
being out of date and that I should be using a more modern and
complient program.

By the way, why is it not good to use absolute positioning? It seems
the easiest way to ensure that certain elements on the page (such as
menus and in line graphics) stay in the correct place.

www.richardfisher.com
 

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