P5A won't post at bus speeds > 83MHz

A

Alex

Configuration:
Asus P5A Motherboard rev 1.06 (http://www.asus.com/pub/asus/mb/sock7/ali/p5a/p5a-107.pdf), BIOS version 1011.005 (latest)
AMD K5-2/400 CPU
256MB dual sided PC133 DIMM. 16 chips "MT48LC16M8A2-75C" (http://download.micron.com/pdf/datasheets/dram/sdram/128msdram_f.pdf)

Everything else removed or disconnected.

Problem:
POSTs fine if I set the jumpers to a speed of no higher than 83MHz. Any higher than that - will not POST (on powerup will beep repeatedly every 2/3 of a second).

Please help me figure out what's wrong.

Thanks in advance,
Alex.
 
E

Egil Solberg

Alex said:
Configuration:
Asus P5A Motherboard rev 1.06
(http://www.asus.com/pub/asus/mb/sock7/ali/p5a/p5a-107.pdf), BIOS version
1011.005 (latest)
AMD K5-2/400 CPU
256MB dual sided PC133 DIMM. 16 chips "MT48LC16M8A2-75C" (http://download.micron.com/pdf/datasheets/dram/sdram/128msdram_f.pdf)

Everything else removed or disconnected.
Problem:
POSTs fine if I set the jumpers to a speed of no higher than 83MHz. Any
higher than that - will not POST (on powerup will beep repeatedly every 2/3
of a second).
Please help me figure out what's wrong.

How have you set the multiplier-jumpers?
What happens if you set the multiplier lower, let's say 3,0 or 3,5 and with
100MHz bus? Does it work now?
 
A

Alex

Egil Solberg said:
(http://www.asus.com/pub/asus/mb/sock7/ali/p5a/p5a-107.pdf), BIOS version 1011.005 (latest)

higher than that - will not POST (on powerup will beep repeatedly every 2/3
of a second).


How have you set the multiplier-jumpers?
What happens if you set the multiplier lower, let's say 3,0 or 3,5 and with
100MHz bus? Does it work now?

The multiplier setting does not affect the behaviour.
I tried it with 4, 3 and 2.5 - POSTs with lower bus speed, beeps on higher.

Best regards,
Alex
 
J

JAD

your PSU is verified OK?

Configuration:
Asus P5A Motherboard rev 1.06 (http://www.asus.com/pub/asus/mb/sock7/ali/p5a/p5a-107.pdf), BIOS version 1011.005 (latest)
AMD K5-2/400 CPU
256MB dual sided PC133 DIMM. 16 chips "MT48LC16M8A2-75C" (http://download.micron.com/pdf/datasheets/dram/sdram/128msdram_f.pdf)

Everything else removed or disconnected.

Problem:
POSTs fine if I set the jumpers to a speed of no higher than 83MHz. Any higher than that - will not POST (on powerup will beep
repeatedly every 2/3 of a second).

Please help me figure out what's wrong.

Thanks in advance,
Alex.
 
A

Alex

JAD said:
your PSU is verified OK?

Should be. why?
Configuration:
Asus P5A Motherboard rev 1.06 (http://www.asus.com/pub/asus/mb/sock7/ali/p5a/p5a-107.pdf), BIOS version 1011.005 (latest)
AMD K5-2/400 CPU
256MB dual sided PC133 DIMM. 16 chips "MT48LC16M8A2-5C" (http://download.micron.com/pdf/datasheets/dram/sdram/128msdram_f.pdf)

Everything else removed or disconnected.

Problem:
POSTs fine if I set the jumpers to a speed of no higher than 83MHz. Any higher than that - will not POST (on powerup will beep
repeatedly every 2/3 of a second).

Please help me figure out what's wrong.

Thanks in advance,
Alex.

Best regards,
Alex
 
J

JAD

well its not 100% guarantee but usually when I can't run the chip at spec or above and I have ruled out memory, its turned out to be
the PSU can't keep up.


JAD said:
your PSU is verified OK?

Should be. why?
Configuration:
Asus P5A Motherboard rev 1.06 (http://www.asus.com/pub/asus/mb/sock7/ali/p5a/p5a-107.pdf), BIOS version 1011.005 (latest)
AMD K5-2/400 CPU
256MB dual sided PC133 DIMM. 16 chips "MT48LC16M8A2-5C" (http://download.micron.com/pdf/datasheets/dram/sdram/128msdram_f.pdf)

Everything else removed or disconnected.

Problem:
POSTs fine if I set the jumpers to a speed of no higher than 83MHz. Any higher than that - will not POST (on powerup will beep
repeatedly every 2/3 of a second).

Please help me figure out what's wrong.

Thanks in advance,
Alex.

Best regards,
Alex
 
B

BoB

Clear cmos, make sure cas is set to 3!

Configuration:
Asus P5A Motherboard rev 1.06
(http://www.asus.com/pub/asus/mb/sock7/ali/p5a/p5a-107.pdf), BIOS version
1011.005 (latest)
AMD K5-2/400 CPU
256MB dual sided PC133 DIMM. 16 chips "MT48LC16M8A2-75C"
(http://download.micron.com/pdf/datasheets/dram/sdram/128msdram_f.pdf)

Everything else removed or disconnected.

Problem:
POSTs fine if I set the jumpers to a speed of no higher than 83MHz. Any
higher than that - will not POST (on powerup will beep repeatedly every 2/3
of a second).

Please help me figure out what's wrong.

Thanks in advance,
Alex.
 
R

Rob

Might be a long shot but I haven't read in your posts what you have set
the Vcore at. Also don't know if you have cleared the CMOS(RTC), the
procedure is in the manual but I would add to it, unplug the PC before
beginning.
 
R

Ralph Wade Phillips

Howdy!

Configuration:
Asus P5A Motherboard rev 1.06
(http://www.asus.com/pub/asus/mb/sock7/ali/p5a/p5a-107.pdf), BIOS version
1011.005 (latest)
AMD K5-2/400 CPU
256MB dual sided PC133 DIMM. 16 chips "MT48LC16M8A2-75C"
(http://download.micron.com/pdf/datasheets/dram/sdram/128msdram_f.pdf)

Everything else removed or disconnected.

Problem:
POSTs fine if I set the jumpers to a speed of no higher than 83MHz. Any
higher than that - will not POST (on powerup will beep repeatedly every 2/3
of a second).

Please help me figure out what's wrong.

The chipset is only guaranteed to 66MHz.

I'd take the money and run, myself. That is, leave it at 75Mhz or
83MHz and run it.

RwP
 
B

BoB

Ralph Wade Phillips said:
Howdy!

Configuration:
Asus P5A Motherboard rev 1.06
(http://www.asus.com/pub/asus/mb/sock7/ali/p5a/p5a-107.pdf), BIOS version
1011.005 (latest)
AMD K5-2/400 CPU
256MB dual sided PC133 DIMM. 16 chips "MT48LC16M8A2-75C"
(http://download.micron.com/pdf/datasheets/dram/sdram/128msdram_f.pdf)

Everything else removed or disconnected.

Problem:
POSTs fine if I set the jumpers to a speed of no higher than 83MHz. Any
higher than that - will not POST (on powerup will beep repeatedly every 2/3
of a second).

Please help me figure out what's wrong.

The chipset is only guaranteed to 66MHz.

I'd take the money and run, myself. That is, leave it at 75Mhz or
83MHz and run it.

RwP
k6-2/100mghz run fine at 66mghz, flaky at 75 or 83!
I ran 350's or 400's at 366(max multiplier).
He's got bad ram or bios set to cas2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just cause it worked in another computer don't mean shit!!!!!!!!!
 
A

Alex

JAD said:
well its not 100% guarantee but usually when I can't run the chip at spec or above and I have ruled out memory, its turned out to be
the PSU can't keep up.

It's a 200W PSU that was running an Intel Agate board with a P-MMX/200 (@66x3) full of PCI & ISA cards and drives for the last 4-5 years with no problems. For the P5A, I removed all the cards and disconnected all the drives so there should be no excessive power load.

I haven't ruled out the memory yet, it is just not the prime suspect at this time.
 
A

Alex

Rob said:
Might be a long shot but I haven't read in your posts what you have set
the Vcore at.
2.2v

Also don't know if you have cleared the CMOS(RTC), the
procedure is in the manual but I would add to it, unplug the PC before
beginning.

Yep.
I also booted (at lower bus speed), flashed the latest BIOS and told it to load the setup defaults.
 
J

JAD

no no no.... I am not referring to the 12v rail(powers the drives).....but the power circuit to the CPU. 4-5 years pulling that
load....I suspect the PSU..




JAD said:
well its not 100% guarantee but usually when I can't run the chip at spec or above and I have ruled out memory, its turned out to be
the PSU can't keep up.

It's a 200W PSU that was running an Intel Agate board with a P-MMX/200 (@66x3) full of PCI & ISA cards and drives for the last 4-5
years with no problems. For the P5A, I removed all the cards and disconnected all the drives so there should be no excessive power
load.

I haven't ruled out the memory yet, it is just not the prime suspect at this time.
 
B

BoB

If bios is set to cas 2(fast memory timing) and you insert pc133
memory that only does cas3(slow memory timing) at 100mghz
the computer won't boot! ctspd, as I told you in the earlier thread
will tell you about the memory!
Just because a certain stick of ram works in one mobo, that
doesn't mean squat in different mobo!
Cheap memory at 133 won't do cas 2 at 100mghz!
It will almost always do cas2 at 66mghz, that's what I am
guessing is your problem!


BoB said:
Clear cmos, make sure cas is set to 3!

Will try but would you care to explain why?
 
A

Alex

Thank you all!

The problem was with the RAM. Swapped the Micron for an Infineon and voila! - works OK.
Even seems to work at CAS2 (the memory is PC133-7.5) although I have not tested it extensively.

Now I just have to figure out why my SB16 ISA (Actually a Vibra16 + Wave Blaster) is not recognized...
 
J

JAD

have you set 'legacy' IRQ for the ISA slot? or exclusions.. all depends on bios make...

Thank you all!

The problem was with the RAM. Swapped the Micron for an Infineon and voila! - works OK.
Even seems to work at CAS2 (the memory is PC133-7.5) although I have not tested it extensively.

Now I just have to figure out why my SB16 ISA (Actually a Vibra16 + Wave Blaster) is not recognized...
 
A

Alex

JAD said:
have you set 'legacy' IRQ for the ISA slot? or exclusions.. all depends on bios make...

The BIOS is based on AWARD 4.51-PG.

On the previous board the card was set as: I/O=220h, IRQ=5, DMA=1, High-DMA=5
I tried setting the "used by ISA" IRQ5, DMA1 and DMA5 to "Yes" and to "No/ICU". No effect.

DIAGNOSE.EXE fails when trying to detect the I/O setting.
 
J

JAD

in the bios (along with an IRQ that isn't shared if possible)...

reset configuration data to YES
PnP OS installed to NO

is there anything in the PCI slot above the ISA where the SC is?



Alex said:
have you set 'legacy' IRQ for the ISA slot? or exclusions.. all depends on bios make...

The BIOS is based on AWARD 4.51-PG.

On the previous board the card was set as: I/O=220h, IRQ=5, DMA=1, High-DMA=5
I tried setting the "used by ISA" IRQ5, DMA1 and DMA5 to "Yes" and to "No/ICU". No effect.

DIAGNOSE.EXE fails when trying to detect the I/O setting.
 

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