P4P800 AND P4R800-VM

[Ken]

Opinions on the P4P800-VM AND THE
P4R800-VM. Which would be the best
board?? I am looking to get a new board
and etc. I do want built in video and
audio. Thanks.
KEN

 

[Sept1967]

I have both.

P4P is an Intel i865 chipset, has SATA+PATA, crappy onboard video, 4 DIMM
slots (dual channel) all 4 slots PC3200 max.

P4R has ATI 9100IGP chipset, PATA, best onboard 8.1DirectX hardware video, 4
DIMM slots (dual channel) 4 slots max in PC2700 mode, 2 slots max if PC3200
mode.
This P4R also has Qfan built into the BIOS. Alows you to control 2 case fans
speeds by BIOS, a nice free extra bonus.

If you want full power, most options, then Intel chipset (add better video
card).
If you want to use all onboard features only, then the ATI 9100IGP.

I run both with 2Gb of PC2700 (4x512 sticks) in dual channel mode. The P4P
with a 3GHz P4 HT - the P4R with 2.8GHz P4 HT. They are identical in
performance.

You can make the P4R nearly completely silent, use a Zalman 7000a AlCu
heatsink for the CPU (in 1400rpm silent mode), and a Zalman chipset heatsink
ZM-NB47J on the video/northbridge.
With a good power supply, you wont know it's on.

http://www.zalmanusa.com/usa/usa_index.asp

 

[Ken]

Thanks for the info. It helped.
KEN

I have both.

P4P is an Intel i865 chipset, has SATA+PATA, crappy onboard video, 4 DIMM
slots (dual channel) all 4 slots PC3200 max.

P4R has ATI 9100IGP chipset, PATA, best onboard 8.1DirectX hardware video, 4
DIMM slots (dual channel) 4 slots max in PC2700 mode, 2 slots max if PC3200
mode.
This P4R also has Qfan built into the BIOS. Alows you to control 2 case fans
speeds by BIOS, a nice free extra bonus.

If you want full power, most options, then Intel chipset (add better video
card).
If you want to use all onboard features only, then the ATI 9100IGP.

I run both with 2Gb of PC2700 (4x512 sticks) in dual channel mode. The P4P
with a 3GHz P4 HT - the P4R with 2.8GHz P4 HT. They are identical in
performance.

You can make the P4R nearly completely silent, use a Zalman 7000a AlCu
heatsink for the CPU (in 1400rpm silent mode), and a Zalman chipset heatsink
ZM-NB47J on the video/northbridge.
With a good power supply, you wont know it's on.

http://www.zalmanusa.com/usa/usa_index.asp

 

[Driekes]

Watch out for the P4R800 boards! I had same real problems with it. Lockups,
sometimes hang in the bios screen and so on. Builded different systems with
this board and I had more problems than ever with P4P boards!

HTH, Driekes

 

[th]

I have both.

P4P is an Intel i865 chipset, has SATA+PATA, crappy onboard video, 4 DIMM
slots (dual channel) all 4 slots PC3200 max.

There is no on-board video on that board (for that you need the i865G
chipset with Intel Extreme Graphics, P4P800 has the 865P chipset). Maybe
you mean the audio which is considered a real pain by some people.

 

[th]

There is no on-board video on that board (for that you need the i865G
chipset with Intel Extreme Graphics, P4P800 has the 865P chipset). Maybe
you mean the audio which is considered a real pain by some people.

Sorry, didn't read the original post properly, the P4P800-VM actually
has the 865G chip set.

You are right there, the Intel Extreme Graphics is quite bad if you want
to use it for anything but office tasks.

 

[JK (at mail dot dk)]

Opinions on the P4P800-VM AND THE
P4R800-VM. Which would be the best
board?? I am looking to get a new board
and etc. I do want built in video and
audio. Thanks.
KEN

I have read about troubles with fsb800 cpu on P4R800. With a fsb533
cpu it runs fine. So I would choose the P4P for a fast cpu.

I think you should consider a motherboard with the newer 915G chipset.

Per example Gigabyte 8I915G-MF

http://www.giga-byte.com/MotherBoard/Products/Products_GA-8I915G-MF.htm

It takes a P4 Prescott 530 3.0 GHz and faster, socket 775.

It has sata, just one IDE port though, and a better onboard graphics
than probably also P4R's radeon 9100.

best regards

John

 

[Sept1967]

You are kidding right?

The P4R800-VM is even Prescott rated. I have had a 2.8GHz 800FSB P4 (non
Prescott) in mine since Feb.04. What are these "troubles" ?

It runs 2Gb PC2700, and 8x AGP ATI 9800Pro, no problems.

 

[user]

Had a nightmare trying to get mine to run with PC3200. Power cycled itself
every 20 minutes or so.

When I switched to PC2700 memory the machine became stable. Running like a
dream now.