P4C800ED RAID 0 Question

[GB]

I need a little help with my new computer I just built. It is my fourth
self built computer in about the last six years but the RAID is very new to
me.
I read all the posts over the past few months I could find time to read
about this so I would be prepared for the install.
I have the following set up:

P4C800E Deluxe Motherboard
Bios Ver. 1015
P4 3.0 Processor
Corsair TWIN XMS 1GB memory
1 - Western Digital 80GB hard drive connected to the IDE ATA100 blue
connector on the motherboard.
2 - Western Digital Raptor 36.7 GB 10,000 RPM hard drives (SATA) connected
to the Intel SATA connectors 1 & 2 on the motherboard.
2 - CDRW & CDROM connected to the black IDE ATA66 connector on the
motherboard.

I wanted to run a RAID 0 setup using Windows XP Pro SP1, with the two
Raptor's on the SATA RAID 0 (C and the 80GB IDE ATA 100 as my "data" drive
(D. Assembled all this together, started the computer entered bios setup
and configured for RAID 0 on the Intel controller, put the Win XP Pro SP1 CD
in the drive and the Intel RAID driver file disk into the floppy drive.
Windows XP started setup, when the prompt came up at the bottom of set up to
hit F6 to install any RAID drivers I hit the key and saw the A: drive light
up for a second or two and I thought it loaded the RAID .inf file and the
other files from the floppy.
Windows XP setup displayed all the drives and gave the option to format with
NTFS.
The 80 GB IDE hard drive was first with the two Serial ATA Raptors
following, one being 0 the other 1.
I had a bad feeling here but continued on L* because I was wondering how the
second Raptor was going to get formatted.
I elected to format the first Raptor and install WIN XP.
It took a lot longer to format than I expected but it was done in about 15
to 20 minutes.
The Win XP instal continued on the was done in about 30 minutes.
When WIN XP was up and running I went to Windows Explorer and the C: drive
was a 36.7 hard drive containing Win XP and the D: was a 36.7 hard drive
unformatted and the 80 GB IDE ATA 100 hard drive was nowhere to be found.
I right clicked on the D: dive and elected to format it NTFS and that went
ok.
For several hours I looked for the IDE drive and could see it in the bios
but not in Windows.
Finally I found it by going to Start/My Computer right click and selecting
Manage.
Under Disk Management this what I have:

Disk 0
Basic
74.53 GB 74.53 Unallocated
Online

Disk 1
Basic (C
34.46 GB 34.46 GB NTFS
Online Healthy (System)

Disk 2
Basic (D
34.46 GB 34.46 GB NTFS
Online Healthy

Of course the CDROM & CDRW are shown as E: & F:

I don't think the RAID set up is working? (It was my understanding both
Raptors would show as one hard dirve C: and the IDE 80 GB would be D:
Am I correct?
How do I fix this if it is not correct?

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

 

[GB]

OK... while waiting for some help on this I found my problem and got the
RAID working but I cannot see the 80GB hard drive in Windows.
Win XP installed in about 15 minutes and shows one drive for the two SATA
drives. Really FAST now!
There is still something I am missing in the bios set up.
I can see the drive in the BIOS and Computer Management but not in Windows
Explorer.
I'll keep looking but open to any help.

Thanks!

 

[Philip Callan]

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GB wrote:
<snip>

| 2 - Western Digital Raptor 36.7 GB 10,000 RPM hard drives (SATA) connected
| to the Intel SATA connectors 1 & 2 on the motherboard.

<snip>

| I don't think the RAID set up is working? (It was my understanding both
| Raptors would show as one hard dirve C: and the IDE 80 GB would be D:
| Am I correct?
| How do I fix this if it is not correct?

1. Okay, you have to verify that you have connected the drives to the
SATA RAID ports, not the standard SATA.

Looking towards the backplate of your computer, if you consider the CPU
to be the North-East corner of your MB, your SATA connections are in the
South-West corner labelled SATA_RAID1 and SATA_RAID2, next to the
PROMISE IC chip, not the ones towards the South/Middle of the board,
those are just standard ATA, not RAID.

2. You need to setup the BIOS properly to recognize a RAID, and here
your going to have 2 choices, allowing the Intel controller ICH5R to run
the RAID, or run it off the Promise PDC20378 chip.

Personally, I'd use the Intel, as the Promise is used more in 0/1/0+1
arrays using P-ATA and S-ATA drives.

So, hook em to those ports, and boot up and press Del to get into the setup.

Goto [IDE Configuration]
Setup the options as follows:

Onboard IDE Operate Mode: Enchanced Mode
Enhanced Mode Support On: S-ATA
Configure S-ATA as RAID: Yes
Serial ATA BOOTROM: Enabled

Save your changes, and exit/reboot.

You *should* see a message similar to 'Press <Ctrl-I> to enter RAID
Configuration Utility' when you next boot, press Ctrl I and your in.

Everything from here out is pretty self explanitory, use the following
stripe sizes: 16kb (low usage) 64kb (typical) and 128kb (performance)

And to finish it all off, this is a pretty much verbatim paste of
section 5.5 In your P4C800-E manual, most people wont mind you asking a
question, I just tend to say R-T-M-F (Read the Manual FIRST) as it can
help with a lot of your questions.

HTH
Philip

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| Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.
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[GB]

Thanks for your response.
I have posted a follow-up when I resolved this problem.
I had one menu item in the bios set wrong and that prevented the RAID 0 from
starting.
Once I did that the first install of XP was wiped out but that was ok
because I had nothing but the OS installed anyway.
I had the RAID up and running in about 25 minutes... it is FAST!
The other problem I have is posted in my follow up.
I hace one new unformatted IDE hard drive 80GB on the ATA66 connector.
You can see it in the bios, device manager and disk management but not in
Windows Explorer.
Any suggestions???

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GB wrote:
<snip>

| 2 - Western Digital Raptor 36.7 GB 10,000 RPM hard drives (SATA) connected
| to the Intel SATA connectors 1 & 2 on the motherboard.

<snip>

| I don't think the RAID set up is working? (It was my understanding both
| Raptors would show as one hard dirve C: and the IDE 80 GB would be D:
| Am I correct?
| How do I fix this if it is not correct?

1. Okay, you have to verify that you have connected the drives to the
SATA RAID ports, not the standard SATA.

Looking towards the backplate of your computer, if you consider the CPU
to be the North-East corner of your MB, your SATA connections are in the
South-West corner labelled SATA_RAID1 and SATA_RAID2, next to the
PROMISE IC chip, not the ones towards the South/Middle of the board,
those are just standard ATA, not RAID.

2. You need to setup the BIOS properly to recognize a RAID, and here
your going to have 2 choices, allowing the Intel controller ICH5R to run
the RAID, or run it off the Promise PDC20378 chip.

Personally, I'd use the Intel, as the Promise is used more in 0/1/0+1
arrays using P-ATA and S-ATA drives.

So, hook em to those ports, and boot up and press Del to get into the setup.

Goto [IDE Configuration]
Setup the options as follows:

Onboard IDE Operate Mode: Enchanced Mode
Enhanced Mode Support On: S-ATA
Configure S-ATA as RAID: Yes
Serial ATA BOOTROM: Enabled

Save your changes, and exit/reboot.

You *should* see a message similar to 'Press <Ctrl-I> to enter RAID
Configuration Utility' when you next boot, press Ctrl I and your in.

Everything from here out is pretty self explanitory, use the following
stripe sizes: 16kb (low usage) 64kb (typical) and 128kb (performance)

And to finish it all off, this is a pretty much verbatim paste of
section 5.5 In your P4C800-E manual, most people wont mind you asking a
question, I just tend to say R-T-M-F (Read the Manual FIRST) as it can
help with a lot of your questions.

HTH
Philip

|
| Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.
|
|

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[Tim]

Is the 80 GB drive formated? Does it have a partition?

If the drive does not have data on, then create a partition in device
manager and format it.

- Tim

Thanks for your response.
I have posted a follow-up when I resolved this problem.
I had one menu item in the bios set wrong and that prevented the RAID 0 from
starting.
Once I did that the first install of XP was wiped out but that was ok
because I had nothing but the OS installed anyway.
I had the RAID up and running in about 25 minutes... it is FAST!
The other problem I have is posted in my follow up.
I hace one new unformatted IDE hard drive 80GB on the ATA66 connector.
You can see it in the bios, device manager and disk management but not in
Windows Explorer.
Any suggestions???

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GB wrote:
<snip>

| 2 - Western Digital Raptor 36.7 GB 10,000 RPM hard drives (SATA) connected
| to the Intel SATA connectors 1 & 2 on the motherboard.

<snip>

| I don't think the RAID set up is working? (It was my understanding both
| Raptors would show as one hard dirve C: and the IDE 80 GB would be D:
| Am I correct?
| How do I fix this if it is not correct?

1. Okay, you have to verify that you have connected the drives to the
SATA RAID ports, not the standard SATA.

Looking towards the backplate of your computer, if you consider the CPU
to be the North-East corner of your MB, your SATA connections are in the
South-West corner labelled SATA_RAID1 and SATA_RAID2, next to the
PROMISE IC chip, not the ones towards the South/Middle of the board,
those are just standard ATA, not RAID.

2. You need to setup the BIOS properly to recognize a RAID, and here
your going to have 2 choices, allowing the Intel controller ICH5R to run
the RAID, or run it off the Promise PDC20378 chip.

Personally, I'd use the Intel, as the Promise is used more in 0/1/0+1
arrays using P-ATA and S-ATA drives.

So, hook em to those ports, and boot up and press Del to get into the setup.

Goto [IDE Configuration]
Setup the options as follows:

Onboard IDE Operate Mode: Enchanced Mode
Enhanced Mode Support On: S-ATA
Configure S-ATA as RAID: Yes
Serial ATA BOOTROM: Enabled

Save your changes, and exit/reboot.

You *should* see a message similar to 'Press <Ctrl-I> to enter RAID
Configuration Utility' when you next boot, press Ctrl I and your in.

Everything from here out is pretty self explanitory, use the following
stripe sizes: 16kb (low usage) 64kb (typical) and 128kb (performance)

And to finish it all off, this is a pretty much verbatim paste of
section 5.5 In your P4C800-E manual, most people wont mind you asking a
question, I just tend to say R-T-M-F (Read the Manual FIRST) as it can
help with a lot of your questions.

HTH
Philip

|
| Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.
|
|

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[GB]

Thanks! That did it.
I went to Disk Management and right clicked on the space out to the side of
the drive and it wanted to format the drive and make it F:
Exited and went to CDROM and CDRW and right clicked and changed the drive
letters to E: & F:
Went back right clicked and selected to format and make drive D: ... it took
about 20 minutes but at the end a baloon popped up on the task bar informing
I had a new storage drive.
Wow what a learning experience again.
Just hope the next time I need to do this for me or someone else I can
remember what to do.
I am very pleased with everything on the P4800E Deluxe so far.

Is the 80 GB drive formated? Does it have a partition?

If the drive does not have data on, then create a partition in device
manager and format it.

- Tim

Thanks for your response.
I have posted a follow-up when I resolved this problem.
I had one menu item in the bios set wrong and that prevented the RAID 0 from
starting.
Once I did that the first install of XP was wiped out but that was ok
because I had nothing but the OS installed anyway.
I had the RAID up and running in about 25 minutes... it is FAST!
The other problem I have is posted in my follow up.
I hace one new unformatted IDE hard drive 80GB on the ATA66 connector.
You can see it in the bios, device manager and disk management but not in
Windows Explorer.
Any suggestions???

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

GB wrote:
<snip>

| 2 - Western Digital Raptor 36.7 GB 10,000 RPM hard drives (SATA) connected
| to the Intel SATA connectors 1 & 2 on the motherboard.

<snip>

| I don't think the RAID set up is working? (It was my understanding both
| Raptors would show as one hard dirve C: and the IDE 80 GB would be D:
| Am I correct?
| How do I fix this if it is not correct?

1. Okay, you have to verify that you have connected the drives to the
SATA RAID ports, not the standard SATA.

Looking towards the backplate of your computer, if you consider the CPU
to be the North-East corner of your MB, your SATA connections are in the
South-West corner labelled SATA_RAID1 and SATA_RAID2, next to the
PROMISE IC chip, not the ones towards the South/Middle of the board,
those are just standard ATA, not RAID.

2. You need to setup the BIOS properly to recognize a RAID, and here
your going to have 2 choices, allowing the Intel controller ICH5R to run
the RAID, or run it off the Promise PDC20378 chip.

Personally, I'd use the Intel, as the Promise is used more in 0/1/0+1
arrays using P-ATA and S-ATA drives.

So, hook em to those ports, and boot up and press Del to get into the setup.

Goto [IDE Configuration]
Setup the options as follows:

Onboard IDE Operate Mode: Enchanced Mode
Enhanced Mode Support On: S-ATA
Configure S-ATA as RAID: Yes
Serial ATA BOOTROM: Enabled

Save your changes, and exit/reboot.

You *should* see a message similar to 'Press <Ctrl-I> to enter RAID
Configuration Utility' when you next boot, press Ctrl I and your in.

Everything from here out is pretty self explanitory, use the following
stripe sizes: 16kb (low usage) 64kb (typical) and 128kb (performance)

And to finish it all off, this is a pretty much verbatim paste of
section 5.5 In your P4C800-E manual, most people wont mind you asking a
question, I just tend to say R-T-M-F (Read the Manual FIRST) as it can
help with a lot of your questions.

HTH
Philip

|
| Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.
|
|

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