outlook express unwritten emails 37 today

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Could anyone please help for some reason outlook ex.is sending unwritten
emails out on a daily basis there is no record of them on my computer 37
today 50 yesterday 27 the day before 1 friend said he got about 40 of them?
I am using XP SP3 I do have a link to gmail from outlook ex as my first ISP
stopped doing dialout connection and i had my old address for years and would
be a problem to change it thanks if you can help
 
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Do copies of these message appear in Sent Items or not?
 
Thank you PA Bear for your reply
I can find no record anywhere not sent or drafts outbox in box nothing?

PA Bear said:
[x-post to OE General newsgroup]

Do copies of these message appear in Sent Items or not?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

Could anyone please help for some reason outlook ex.is sending unwritten
emails out on a daily basis there is no record of them on my computer 37
today 50 yesterday 27 the day before 1 friend said he got about 40 of
them?
I am using XP SP3 I do have a link to gmail from outlook ex as my first
ISP
stopped doing dialout connection and i had my old address for years and
would be a problem to change it thanks if you can help
 
shihtzu said:
Could anyone please help for some reason outlook ex.is sending unwritten
emails out on a daily basis there is no record of them on my computer 37
today 50 yesterday 27 the day before 1 friend said he got about 40 of them?
I am using XP SP3 I do have a link to gmail from outlook ex as my first ISP
stopped doing dialout connection and i had my old address for years and would
be a problem to change it thanks if you can help

See what happens when you disable the e-mail scanner function in your
anti-virus program. This may not be sufficient for some anti-virus
program and instead you have to uninstall them and follow with a
reinstall but choose NOT to include their e-mail scanner component (AVG
is like this). After disabling the e-mail scanner in your anti-virus
program, check if the problem remains.
 
PA said:
[x-post to OE General newsgroup]

Do copies of these message appear in Sent Items or not?

Original newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Added newsgroups: microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general
Effector/Respondent: PA Bear

This is to warn that Effector has copied [only a subthread of] an
existing discussion to other groups by cross-posting their reply to
groups not originally specified by the OP (original post[er]). There
may be additional replies back under the original post in its original
group(s) than just those shown under the subthread for the Effector's
cross-posted reply. If the OP and others wish to ensure that they see
ALL replies then they must visit the original groups to check if there
are subthreads *other* than under the Effector's reply.


<rant_start>
If the OP wishes to move or copy their discussion to another group, that
should be *their* choice and not as an UNSOLICITED action enforced by
another *user*. Despite his pretense, the Effector is not a moderator
or admin but just another user who is propagating the OP's discussion to
different group(s) that he has divined are more appropriate and to
enlarge the audience or hopefully provide a more focused community on
the topic but which may not be a correct action (since the source of the
problem may not be relevant to those other groups simply based on where
the OP reported the symptoms). If the OP wants to move or copy their
discussion to another group, that should be THEIR choice and not of the
Respondent. The Respondent should only recommend to the OP that there
may be more appropriate or useful groups to which the OP should repost
or cross-post their message, not enforce the propagation of the OP's
discussion to other groups.

There are times when the Newsgroups header should be modified to a
different set of groups than was originally specified by the user.
Examples are: using a *.test group to redirect negative or expository
replies into the bit bucket (common with spammers or trolls); removal of
completely unrelated groups (i.e., the OP cross-posted to invalid
groups), an attempt to flame a smaller community or low-bandwidth group
with a rash of replies from other groups (i.e., an intentional attempt
to vengefully or maliciously flood forward into other groups), inclusion
of *.kook or other groups with the intention to flame the other groups
with the inflamed responses (i.e., attempt to flood backward into other
groups), responding to a spam exhibit or announcements but discussions
about them belong in another group, and so on. A misguided need to
enlarge exposure for a discussion based on a choice made by the
Respondent is not an adequate reason to alter the Newsgroups header.

Recommend the OP should move. Do not SHOVE them over. It should be the
OP's choice in what communities to focus on their post, not a forced
change made by the Respondent.
<rant_end>
 
Hello,

Verify that the 'spam' you mention is actually sent by you and you are not
being impersonated by someone else (forging from and reply-to address).

If you can post the headers of the spam received by your friend (hit ctrl+f3
in Outlook Express after selecting the message), we will be able to check
for you. Be sure to remove/munge all e-mail addresses in the headers before
posting in this public newsgroup

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VanguardLH said:
PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:

<rant_start>
If the OP wishes to move or copy their discussion to another group,
that
should be *their* choice and not as an UNSOLICITED action enforced by
another *user*. Despite his pretense, the Effector is not a moderator
or admin but just another user who is propagating the OP's discussion
to
different group(s) that he has divined are more appropriate and to
enlarge the audience or hopefully provide a more focused community on
the topic but which may not be a correct action (since the source of
the
problem may not be relevant to those other groups simply based on
where
the OP reported the symptoms). If the OP wants to move or copy their
discussion to another group, that should be THEIR choice and not of
the
Respondent. The Respondent should only recommend to the OP that there
may be more appropriate or useful groups to which the OP should repost
or cross-post their message, not enforce the propagation of the OP's
discussion to other groups.

There are times when the Newsgroups header should be modified to a
different set of groups than was originally specified by the user.
Examples are: using a *.test group to redirect negative or expository
replies into the bit bucket (common with spammers or trolls); removal
of
completely unrelated groups (i.e., the OP cross-posted to invalid
groups), an attempt to flame a smaller community or low-bandwidth
group
with a rash of replies from other groups (i.e., an intentional attempt
to vengefully or maliciously flood forward into other groups),
inclusion
of *.kook or other groups with the intention to flame the other groups
with the inflamed responses (i.e., attempt to flood backward into
other
groups), responding to a spam exhibit or announcements but discussions
about them belong in another group, and so on. A misguided need to
enlarge exposure for a discussion based on a choice made by the
Respondent is not an adequate reason to alter the Newsgroups header.

Recommend the OP should move. Do not SHOVE them over. It should be
the
OP's choice in what communities to focus on their post, not a forced
change made by the Respondent.
<rant_end>

Agreed - 100% VanguardLH

I think I'll propose that you should become the 'Moderator' *here*! :)

I've added ('cause I can - and choose to!) the 'test.here' group!
 
Could anyone please help for some reason outlook ex.is sending unwritten
emails out on a daily basis


How do you know? Have you considered the possibility that a spammer is
sending out mail using your return address?

there is no record of them on my computer 37
today 50 yesterday 27 the day before 1 friend said he got about 40 of them?


And did you ask your friend what those messages said? What were they?

I am using XP SP3 I do have a link to gmail from outlook ex as my first ISP
stopped doing dialout connection and i had my old address for years and would
be a problem to change it thanks if you can help


Very likely either a spammer is using your address or you are infected
with malware.
 
Thank you PA Bear for your reply
I can find no record anywhere not sent or drafts outbox in box nothing?

PA Bear said:
[x-post to OE General newsgroup]
Do copies of these message appear in Sent Items or not?

If you were the read thru the other posts, you OE problem is:

1) Serious spyware / malware / virus infestation which installs a
hidden email sending program. Once installed, this "infested" program
massively sends email everywhere.
-- Get good antivirus / anti-spyware tools and clean up your PC.

2) You email account email address has been "cloned." Cloned email
addresses means someone / some "bot" has gotten your email address
configured to be used for SPAMing people. This happens for now an
then. It "will" clean up by itself in a few weeks / months or change
email address.
 
There is a very good chance that you are seeing the effects of a hijackware
infection!

NB: If you had no anti-virus application installed or the subscription had
expired *when the machine first got infected* and/or your subscription has
since expired and/or the machine's not been kept fully-patched at Windows
Update, don't waste your time with any of the below: Format & reinstall
Windows. A Repair Install will NOT help!

1. See if you can download/run the MSRT manually:
http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/default.mspx

NB: Run the FULL scan, not the QUICK scan! You may need to download the
MSRT on a non-infected machine, then transfer MRT.EXE to the infected
machine and rename it to SCAN.EXE before running it.

2. [WinXP ONLY!! =>] Run the Windows Live Safety Center's 'Protection' scan
(only!) in Safe Mode with Networking, if need be:
http://onecare.live.com/site/en-us/center/howsafe.htm

3. Run a /thorough/ check for hijackware, including posting the requested
logs in an appropriate forum, not here.

Checking for/Help with Hijackware
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=4075
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/prevention.htm
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/tshoot.html
http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/Malware_Defence.htm
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Removing_Malware

**Chances are you will need to seek expert assistance in
http://spywarehammer.com/simplemachinesforum/index.php?board=10.0,
http://www.spywarewarrior.com/viewforum.php?f=5,
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/cleanup,
http://www.bluetack.co.uk/forums/index.php,
http://aumha.net/viewforum.php?f=30 or other appropriate forums as well.**

If these procedures look too complex - and there is no shame in admitting
this isn't your cup of tea - take the machine to a local, reputable and
independent (i.e., not BigBoxStoreUSA) computer repair shop.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

Thank you PA Bear for your reply
I can find no record anywhere not sent or drafts outbox in box nothing?

PA Bear said:
[x-post to OE General newsgroup]

Do copies of these message appear in Sent Items or not?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

Could anyone please help for some reason outlook ex.is sending unwritten
emails out on a daily basis there is no record of them on my computer 37
today 50 yesterday 27 the day before 1 friend said he got about 40 of
them?
I am using XP SP3 I do have a link to gmail from outlook ex as my first
ISP
stopped doing dialout connection and i had my old address for years and
would be a problem to change it thanks if you can help
 
smlunatick said:
Thank you PA Bear for your reply
I can find no record anywhere not sent or drafts outbox in box
nothing?

PA Bear said:
[x-post to OE General newsgroup]
Do copies of these message appear in Sent Items or not?
shihtzu wrote:
Could anyone please help for some reason outlook ex.is sending
unwritten emails out on a daily basis there is no record of them
on my computer 37 today 50 yesterday 27 the day before 1 friend
said he got about 40 of them?
I am using XP SP3 I do have a link to gmail from outlook ex as my
first ISP
stopped doing dialout connection and i had my old address for
years and would be a problem to change it thanks if you can help

If you were the read thru the other posts, you OE problem is:

1) Serious spyware / malware / virus infestation which installs a
hidden email sending program. Once installed, this "infested" program
massively sends email everywhere.
-- Get good antivirus / anti-spyware tools and clean up your PC.

2) You email account email address has been "cloned." Cloned email
addresses means someone / some "bot" has gotten your email address
configured to be used for SPAMing people. This happens for now an
then. It "will" clean up by itself in a few weeks / months or change
email address.

Assuming the above is correct, and I suspect it may be.
It's all good info plus:
Unless it's part of a zombie load. It may appear to clear itself up and
then return if the malware isn't found and gotten rid of. In the latest
news on the subject they've some time ago begun to use their zombies
sporadically rather than intensely, spreading the load out and making
tracking harder and discovery harder, if they're even noticed.

I've no other experience to relate except to say to throw every AV and
malware detector you have at it. If it's new nothing will detect it
yet, but it's always worth the try.

How did you discover it? I can't tell if you're saying your ISP stopped
you account or just what you meant.
If you have other accounts, it could be using those, too, BTW.

HTH,

Twayne`
 
PA Bear said:
[x-post to OE General newsgroup]

Do copies of these message appear in Sent Items or not?
Could anyone please help for some reason outlook ex.is sending
unwritten emails out on a daily basis there is no record of them on
my computer 37 today 50 yesterday 27 the day before 1 friend said he
got about 40 of them?
I am using XP SP3 I do have a link to gmail from outlook ex as my
first ISP
stopped doing dialout connection and i had my old address for years
and would be a problem to change it thanks if you can help

Well, I'm sure THAT's a lot of help to the OP!
It doesn't occur to you he is very likely infected with a sort of dialer
or zomby type software? And you think it's more important to x-post
than it is to give him some kind of response he can use?
You're acting like a real dummy.

VanguardLH had the following to say, and I second the foolishness and
ignorance it's about:

"
This is to warn that Effector has copied [only a subthread of] an
existing discussion to other groups by cross-posting their reply to
groups not originally specified by the OP (original post[er]). There
may be additional replies back under the original post in its original
group(s) than just those shown under the subthread for the Effector's
cross-posted reply. If the OP and others wish to ensure that they see
ALL replies then they must visit the original groups to check if there
are subthreads *other* than under the Effector's reply.


<rant_start>
If the OP wishes to move or copy their discussion to another group, that
should be *their* choice and not as an UNSOLICITED action enforced by
another *user*. Despite his pretense, the Effector is not a moderator
or admin but just another user who is propagating the OP's discussion to
different group(s) that he has divined are more appropriate and to
enlarge the audience or hopefully provide a more focused community on
the topic but which may not be a correct action (since the source of the
problem may not be relevant to those other groups simply based on where
the OP reported the symptoms). If the OP wants to move or copy their
discussion to another group, that should be THEIR choice and not of the
Respondent. The Respondent should only recommend to the OP that there
may be more appropriate or useful groups to which the OP should repost
or cross-post their message, not enforce the propagation of the OP's
discussion to other groups.

There are times when the Newsgroups header should be modified to a
different set of groups than was originally specified by the user.
Examples are: using a *.test group to redirect negative or expository
replies into the bit bucket (common with spammers or trolls); removal of
completely unrelated groups (i.e., the OP cross-posted to invalid
groups), an attempt to flame a smaller community or low-bandwidth group
with a rash of replies from other groups (i.e., an intentional attempt
to vengefully or maliciously flood forward into other groups), inclusion
of *.kook or other groups with the intention to flame the other groups
with the inflamed responses (i.e., attempt to flood backward into other
groups), responding to a spam exhibit or announcements but discussions
about them belong in another group, and so on. A misguided need to
enlarge exposure for a discussion based on a choice made by the
Respondent is not an adequate reason to alter the Newsgroups header.

Recommend the OP should move. Do not SHOVE them over. It should be the
OP's choice in what communities to focus on their post, not a forced
change made by the Respondent.
<rant_end>
"

If you can't accept the normal rules of a newsgroup's concensus, they
you had better find other places to make your silly posts and actions
to.
 
My sentiments exactly. I couldn''t have said it better, so instead I
simply quoted your rant (with attribute); hope you don't mind.

Twayne`



VanguardLH said:
PA said:
[x-post to OE General newsgroup]

Do copies of these message appear in Sent Items or not?

Original newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Added newsgroups: microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general
Effector/Respondent: PA Bear

This is to warn that Effector has copied [only a subthread of] an
existing discussion to other groups by cross-posting their reply to
groups not originally specified by the OP (original post[er]). There
may be additional replies back under the original post in its original
group(s) than just those shown under the subthread for the Effector's
cross-posted reply. If the OP and others wish to ensure that they see
ALL replies then they must visit the original groups to check if there
are subthreads *other* than under the Effector's reply.


<rant_start>
If the OP wishes to move or copy their discussion to another group,
that should be *their* choice and not as an UNSOLICITED action
enforced by another *user*. Despite his pretense, the Effector is
not a moderator or admin but just another user who is propagating the
OP's discussion to different group(s) that he has divined are more
appropriate and to enlarge the audience or hopefully provide a more
focused community on the topic but which may not be a correct action
(since the source of the problem may not be relevant to those other
groups simply based on where the OP reported the symptoms). If the
OP wants to move or copy their discussion to another group, that
should be THEIR choice and not of the Respondent. The Respondent
should only recommend to the OP that there may be more appropriate or
useful groups to which the OP should repost or cross-post their
message, not enforce the propagation of the OP's discussion to other
groups.

There are times when the Newsgroups header should be modified to a
different set of groups than was originally specified by the user.
Examples are: using a *.test group to redirect negative or expository
replies into the bit bucket (common with spammers or trolls); removal
of completely unrelated groups (i.e., the OP cross-posted to invalid
groups), an attempt to flame a smaller community or low-bandwidth
group with a rash of replies from other groups (i.e., an intentional
attempt to vengefully or maliciously flood forward into other
groups), inclusion of *.kook or other groups with the intention to
flame the other groups with the inflamed responses (i.e., attempt to
flood backward into other groups), responding to a spam exhibit or
announcements but discussions about them belong in another group, and
so on. A misguided need to enlarge exposure for a discussion based
on a choice made by the Respondent is not an adequate reason to alter
the Newsgroups header.

Recommend the OP should move. Do not SHOVE them over. It should be
the OP's choice in what communities to focus on their post, not a
forced change made by the Respondent.
<rant_end>
 
Yeh, ya never know what these rogue moderators and newsgroup-police
might be up to! I even took a hint from one of their past activities
and set f'ups here so's we wouldn't waste too much ether!

Cheers,

Twayne
 
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