Outlook 2007 changed spelling of Outlook Express

M

Michael Tissington

I have just installed Office 2007 RTM and now Outlook Express can only spell
check in French.
Everything else is set to English (US).

How do I fix this, change the dictionary back to English for Outlook Express
?
 
B

Bruce Hagen

Sorry. I don't know the /technical/ reason. I just know what I posted.

Was>>Bruce Hagen has all SORTS of useful information.<< being sarcastic?
 
C

CD

Please re-post in French, thanks...


Bruce Hagen said:
Sorry. I don't know the /technical/ reason. I just know what I posted.

Was>>Bruce Hagen has all SORTS of useful information.<< being sarcastic?
 
D

D. Spencer Hines

Sorry. I don't know the /technical/ reason. I just know what I posted.

Was>>Bruce Hagen has all SORTS of useful information.<< being sarcastic?

NO!

To The Contrary...

Thank you.

DSH
 
C

CD

Type your message, copy and paste it to a site that translates it into
French. Copy and Paste the French translation back into Outlook. Run the
French spell check and make corrections. Then copy and paste it back to the
translator web site and translate it back into English - copy and paste the
translation back into Outlook.

That's the way Microsoft would do it.

Or - you could buy a dictionary.

Or - go to school and learn how to spell better.

Have a good one mate...
 
D

D. Spencer Hines

Hilarious!

DSH

Type your message, copy and paste it to a site that translates it into
French. Copy and Paste the French translation back into Outlook. Run the
French spell check and make corrections. Then copy and paste it back to
the translator web site and translate it back into English - copy and
paste the translation back into Outlook.

That's the way Microsoft would do it.

Or - you could buy a dictionary.

Or - go to school and learn how to spell better.

Have a good one mate...
 
P

Patrick Schmid [MVP]

Office 2007 ships with a newer version of the Office spell checking
support than Outlook Express can handle. That's the explanation...
When you upgrade to 2007, Office 2007 dutifully upgrades the spell
checkers to the new version too (seems to affect the English ones only
though). See my RTM issues page for a workaround.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed
 
D

D. Spencer Hines

So, this is part of the process of obsolescing Outlook Express -- right?

DSH

Office 2007 ships with a newer version of the Office spell checking
support than Outlook Express can handle. That's the explanation...
When you upgrade to 2007, Office 2007 dutifully upgrades the spell
checkers to the new version too (seems to affect the English ones only
though). See my RTM issues page for a workaround.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

Interesting!

Bruce Hagen has all SORTS of useful information.


Why on earth is THAT the case?

DSH
 
P

Patrick Schmid [MVP]

I don't think the conspiracy behind this is greater than that Outlook
Express is owned by the Windows group (succeeded by Windows Mail and
News in Vista) and Outlook is owned by the Office group.
They sometimes don't communicate the greatest with each other...

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

So, this is part of the process of obsolescing Outlook Express -- right?

DSH

Office 2007 ships with a newer version of the Office spell checking
support than Outlook Express can handle. That's the explanation...
When you upgrade to 2007, Office 2007 dutifully upgrades the spell
checkers to the new version too (seems to affect the English ones only
though). See my RTM issues page for a workaround.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

Interesting!

Bruce Hagen has all SORTS of useful information.

Office 2007 does not support Spell Check in OE.

Why on earth is THAT the case?

DSH


Office 2007 does not support Spell Check in OE. You can download a
freeware spell check which will work fine.

DSH

http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=2952

http://www.tinyspell.m6.net/ (Checks the spelling as you type).
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~


I have just installed Office 2007 RTM and now Outlook Express can only
spell check in French.
Everything else is set to English (US).

How do I fix this, change the dictionary back to English for Outlook
Express ?
 
D

D. Spencer Hines

Understood.

Separate Fiefdoms no doubt.

Thanks.

DSH

I don't think the conspiracy behind this is greater than that Outlook
Express is owned by the Windows group (succeeded by Windows Mail and News
in Vista) and Outlook is owned by the Office group.
They sometimes don't communicate the greatest with each other...

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

So, this is part of the process of obsolescing Outlook Express -- right?

DSH

Office 2007 ships with a newer version of the Office spell checking
support than Outlook Express can handle. That's the explanation...
When you upgrade to 2007, Office 2007 dutifully upgrades the spell
checkers to the new version too (seems to affect the English ones only
though). See my RTM issues page for a workaround.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed


Interesting!

Bruce Hagen has all SORTS of useful information.

Office 2007 does not support Spell Check in OE.

Why on earth is THAT the case?

DSH


Office 2007 does not support Spell Check in OE. You can download a
freeware spell check which will work fine.

DSH

http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=2952

http://www.tinyspell.m6.net/ (Checks the spelling as you type).
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~


I have just installed Office 2007 RTM and now Outlook Express can
only
spell check in French.
Everything else is set to English (US).

How do I fix this, change the dictionary back to English for
Outlook
Express ?
 
M

Michael Tissington

This still does not answer my question.

In an all English install of Windows XP, Office, IE etc ...

Why, after doing a clean install of Office 2007 does the dictionary for
Outlook Express become French and no ability to select another one ???
 
P

Patrick Schmid [MVP]

Because 2007 removed the English dictionary when you installed it and
the French dictionary remained (North American copies of Office ship
with English & French for sure, and I think Spanish as well).
Explanation:
After installing Office 2007 RTM, you don't have English as a choice of
language in the spell checker of Outlook Express and potentially other
programs.

* Office 2007 is replacing the v.3 English Proofing Tools that
shipped in prior versions of Office with a new version (v.6). There are
a number of changes in this new version, but the one that is causing
this problem is that Outlook Express doesn't understand the new English
Proofing Tools. This is a problem because Outlook Express has never
shipped with its own proofing tools but has used the ones shipped by
Office.
* There are a few scenarios in which you won't run into this
problem:
o An upgrade from Office 2003 or earlier to Office 2007 RTM if
you don't manually uninstall the earlier version of Office.
o A configuration in which Office 2003 (or earlier) has not
been removed.
For example, I have Office 2003 still on both of my
computers, and I still have English in Outlook Express.
* The workaround for this problem is to install the English
dictionary from Office 2003 (or Office XP). There should be no need to
install all of Office just the dictionary. The English Proofing Tools
can be found in the Custom Install tree under 'Office Shared
Features|Proofing Tools|English'.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed
 
D

D. Spencer Hines

Now THAT'S what I call a Real Answer.

Clear, Concise, Candid & Coherent.

DSH

Because 2007 removed the English dictionary when you installed it and the
French dictionary remained (North American copies of Office ship with
English & French for sure, and I think Spanish as well).
Explanation:
After installing Office 2007 RTM, you don't have English as a choice of
language in the spell checker of Outlook Express and potentially other
programs.

* Office 2007 is replacing the v.3 English Proofing Tools that shipped
in prior versions of Office with a new version (v.6). There are a number
of changes in this new version, but the one that is causing this problem
is that Outlook Express doesn't understand the new English Proofing Tools.
This is a problem because Outlook Express has never shipped with its own
proofing tools but has used the ones shipped by Office.
* There are a few scenarios in which you won't run into this problem:
o An upgrade from Office 2003 or earlier to Office 2007 RTM if
you don't manually uninstall the earlier version of Office.
o A configuration in which Office 2003 (or earlier) has not been
removed.
For example, I have Office 2003 still on both of my computers,
and I still have English in Outlook Express.
* The workaround for this problem is to install the English dictionary
from Office 2003 (or Office XP). There should be no need to install all of
Office just the dictionary. The English Proofing Tools can be found in the
Custom Install tree under 'Office Shared Features|Proofing Tools|English'.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

This still does not answer my question.

In an all English install of Windows XP, Office, IE etc ...

Why, after doing a clean install of Office 2007 does the dictionary for
Outlook Express become French and no ability to select another one ???
 
P

Patrick Schmid [MVP]

I just copied & pasted the paragraph (everything after Explanation) from
the website that I pointed you to in my first reply ;)

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed



Now THAT'S what I call a Real Answer.

Clear, Concise, Candid & Coherent.

DSH

Because 2007 removed the English dictionary when you installed it and the
French dictionary remained (North American copies of Office ship with
English & French for sure, and I think Spanish as well).
Explanation:
After installing Office 2007 RTM, you don't have English as a choice of
language in the spell checker of Outlook Express and potentially other
programs.

* Office 2007 is replacing the v.3 English Proofing Tools that shipped
in prior versions of Office with a new version (v.6). There are a number
of changes in this new version, but the one that is causing this problem
is that Outlook Express doesn't understand the new English Proofing Tools.
This is a problem because Outlook Express has never shipped with its own
proofing tools but has used the ones shipped by Office.
* There are a few scenarios in which you won't run into this problem:
o An upgrade from Office 2003 or earlier to Office 2007 RTM if
you don't manually uninstall the earlier version of Office.
o A configuration in which Office 2003 (or earlier) has not been
removed.
For example, I have Office 2003 still on both of my computers,
and I still have English in Outlook Express.
* The workaround for this problem is to install the English dictionary
from Office 2003 (or Office XP). There should be no need to install all of
Office just the dictionary. The English Proofing Tools can be found in the
Custom Install tree under 'Office Shared Features|Proofing Tools|English'.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

This still does not answer my question.

In an all English install of Windows XP, Office, IE etc ...

Why, after doing a clean install of Office 2007 does the dictionary for
Outlook Express become French and no ability to select another one ???
 
D

D. Spencer Hines

It wasn't MY Question.

But you gave a Good Answer.

The ANSWER is better than a URL.

DSH

I just copied & pasted the paragraph (everything after Explanation) from
the website that I pointed you to in my first reply ;)

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

Now THAT'S what I call a Real Answer.

Clear, Concise, Candid & Coherent.

DSH

Because 2007 removed the English dictionary when you installed it and
the
French dictionary remained (North American copies of Office ship with
English & French for sure, and I think Spanish as well).
Explanation:
After installing Office 2007 RTM, you don't have English as a choice of
language in the spell checker of Outlook Express and potentially other
programs.

* Office 2007 is replacing the v.3 English Proofing Tools that
shipped
in prior versions of Office with a new version (v.6). There are a
number
of changes in this new version, but the one that is causing this
problem
is that Outlook Express doesn't understand the new English Proofing
Tools.
This is a problem because Outlook Express has never shipped with its
own
proofing tools but has used the ones shipped by Office.
* There are a few scenarios in which you won't run into this
problem:
o An upgrade from Office 2003 or earlier to Office 2007 RTM if
you don't manually uninstall the earlier version of Office.
o A configuration in which Office 2003 (or earlier) has not
been
removed.
For example, I have Office 2003 still on both of my
computers,
and I still have English in Outlook Express.
* The workaround for this problem is to install the English
dictionary
from Office 2003 (or Office XP). There should be no need to install all
of
Office just the dictionary. The English Proofing Tools can be found in
the
Custom Install tree under 'Office Shared Features|Proofing
Tools|English'.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed


This still does not answer my question.

In an all English install of Windows XP, Office, IE etc ...

Why, after doing a clean install of Office 2007 does the dictionary
for
Outlook Express become French and no ability to select another one ???
 
D

D. Spencer Hines

The part BEFORE Explanation is ALSO candid and useful.

DSH

It wasn't MY Question.

But you gave a Good Answer.

The ANSWER is better than a URL.

DSH

I just copied & pasted the paragraph (everything after Explanation) from
the website that I pointed you to in my first reply ;)

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

Now THAT'S what I call a Real Answer.

Clear, Concise, Candid & Coherent.

DSH


Because 2007 removed the English dictionary when you installed it and
the
French dictionary remained (North American copies of Office ship with
English & French for sure, and I think Spanish as well).
Explanation:
After installing Office 2007 RTM, you don't have English as a choice
of
language in the spell checker of Outlook Express and potentially other
programs.

* Office 2007 is replacing the v.3 English Proofing Tools that
shipped
in prior versions of Office with a new version (v.6). There are a
number
of changes in this new version, but the one that is causing this
problem
is that Outlook Express doesn't understand the new English Proofing
Tools.
This is a problem because Outlook Express has never shipped with its
own
proofing tools but has used the ones shipped by Office.
* There are a few scenarios in which you won't run into this
problem:
o An upgrade from Office 2003 or earlier to Office 2007 RTM
if
you don't manually uninstall the earlier version of Office.
o A configuration in which Office 2003 (or earlier) has not
been
removed.
For example, I have Office 2003 still on both of my
computers,
and I still have English in Outlook Express.
* The workaround for this problem is to install the English
dictionary
from Office 2003 (or Office XP). There should be no need to install
all of
Office just the dictionary. The English Proofing Tools can be found in
the
Custom Install tree under 'Office Shared Features|Proofing
Tools|English'.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In:
http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed


This still does not answer my question.

In an all English install of Windows XP, Office, IE etc ...

Why, after doing a clean install of Office 2007 does the dictionary
for
Outlook Express become French and no ability to select another one
???
 

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