OT: POLL - NORTON IS LOVELY ???

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And the problem with this is.... what?

Whether the door is invisible, or not, doesn't matter. What matters is
whether the door is locked.

The only advantage I've seen with Zone-Alarm et al is that they will
tell you if some piece of software is "calling home". For many, that is
the first clue they have spyware etc. installed on their computer.

I don't understand why anyone would be soo foolish as to buy scareware,
such as Internet Security. Or NAV.
 
Bullfeathers,

A: Rin Tin Tin, Lassie, and any product from Norton

Q: Name two movie stars, and a dog.
 
anonymous1 said:
Lets keep the product list simple, and not compare shit and shoeshine
'norton' badged products are garbage
'symantec' badged corporate products are entirely different, they work, and
have half the intrusion of Norton Crapware
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I just downloaded and installed Norton 2006 AV today, 5 seats, on
Windows 2000 computers. It was interesting to see that it picked up 9
different trojans that were undetected by McAfee (that was updated) and
that it also blocked remote VNC connections from outside the LAN.

While I don't like the extra fluff, it was interesting to see that
they've included the ability to disable detection of different types of
malware by category.

I don't use the residential products on my own machines, but it was nice
to see it install properly, take little memory, use little CPU time, and
that it was able to find and remove the malware (ad.ware, down loaders
etc...) that McAfee missed.
 
...trouble is with NAT router's is that they BOLDLY advertise most of your
ports as "blocked" instead of "stealthed" and hence "invisible", on the web,
...BRILLIANT way to advertise one's presence on the web and invite more
attention, if you ask me !!
...trundle along to http://www.grc.com with your little NAT router, and
click on the "Shields-Up" hyperlink to see just how good your "NAT"
firewalled router is !! :-)
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Funny you mention this - I know about 40 different SOHO's that only use
NAT appliances and none of them have been compromised by unsolicited
inbound traffic, and none of them have any extra attempts just because
they are using NAT (in relation to a true firewall exposure count).

I don't consider NAT to be a firewall service, never have, but it does
wonders at keeping the unsolicited traffic out.
 
Bullfeathers,

A: Rin Tin Tin, Lassie, and any product from Norton

Q: Name two movie stars, and a dog.
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How times have changed! The first time I heard that, it was "Lassie,
Rin-tin-tin, and IMS."
 
Have noticed that, but that seems to be the general way of things, yes?
Besides, it always costs a lot when it hits you where it (can) hurt!
 
Richard,
I've found that Norton's s/w disks don't even make decent coasters, let
alone work as efficient utilities.
 
RJK said:
I guess that you really mean, 2as opposed to McaFee software that has
trashed many more Pc's than Symantec ever did !
...and I mean that in a "warm kind, lving way!"

regards, Richard
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Check out any newsgroup dealing with Win9x - you'll find 10 times the number
of problems with Norton software compared to any (or maybe all)other
AV's/firewalls.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read on how to post messages to NG's
 
Noel Paton said:
There is no such thing as a Win9x-friendly Norton (or Symantec, for
that matter) application!
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What Windows (or any other) program can take the place of Norton's Win Doctor?
 
there arent many programs designed to work like winDoctor
yoa know, fix things that arent broken

--
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Adaware http://www.lavasoft.de
spybot http://security.kolla.de
AVG free antivirus http://www.grisoft.com
Etrust/Vet/CA.online Antivirus scan
http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/virusinfo/scan.aspx
Panda online AntiVirus scan http://www.pandasoftware.com/ActiveScan/
Panda online AntiSpyware Scan
http://www.pandasoftware.com/virus_info/spyware/test/
Catalog of removal tools (1)
http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/utilities/
Catalog of removal tools (2)
http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/newsinfo/collateral.aspx?CID=40387
Trouble Shooting guide to Windows http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/
Blocking Unwanted Parasites with a Hosts file
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
links provided as a courtesy, read all instructions on the pages before
use
Grateful thanks to the authors/webmasters
_
 
Ken Blake said:
How times have changed! The first time I heard that, it was "Lassie,
Rin-tin-tin, and IMS."
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One can only hope and pray that Microsoft
will one day come up with software
as scalable and reliable and potent as IMS.

Perhaps they will see the need for it
once Gates leaves to take over at Berkshire Hathaway.

I seriously doubt it, though, as I suspect that
most of the developers they have in-house
have no concept of global telecommunications processing
and its requirements.

Most of them would probably question your sanity
when you tell them that 5 nines is a MUST.
 
Uhuh. And they WANT all the tooth fairy money, too!


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
(e-mail address removed)
| Have you noticed that dentists are more expensive than PC technicians ? :-)
|
| regards, Richard
|
|
| | I haven't lost enough teeth lately to know! (Well, anyhow, my dentist puts
| fakes in too quick to know.)
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
| (e-mail address removed)
| | | Perhaps the Tooth Fairy is alive and living across Lake Washington, also?
| | Joe
| | | | There may be periods of time measurable in microseconds after a fresh
| batch
| | has collapsed that everyone else is just fine.
| |
| |
| | --
| | Thanks or Good Luck,
| | There may be humor in this post, and,
| | Naturally, you will not sue,
| | should things get worse after this,
| | PCR
| | (e-mail address removed)
| | | | | Yes or No !
| | |
| | | There are always some "out there" whose Windows platforms are hovering
| on
| | | the brink of major software collapse - WHATever is next installed, and
| of
| | | course that could, (unfortunately for Norton and any other application
| | | software product) - be a Norton product.
| | |
| | | regards, Richard
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
|
|
 
I'm SURE it can be proven in calculus that all computers on earth are just fine for a period of microseconds after a fresh batch of them has collapsed from an install of whatever.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
(e-mail address removed)
| ...a fresh batch of what ? ...please decode for moi !? :-)
|
| regards, Richard
|
| ...sometimes PCR's responses are far too cryptic for a simple mind like mine
| :-)
|
|
| | There may be periods of time measurable in microseconds after a fresh batch
| has collapsed that everyone else is just fine.
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
| (e-mail address removed)
| | | Yes or No !
| |
| | There are always some "out there" whose Windows platforms are hovering on
| | the brink of major software collapse - WHATever is next installed, and of
| | course that could, (unfortunately for Norton and any other application
| | software product) - be a Norton product.
| |
| | regards, Richard
| |
| |
|
|
 
Let's see . . . 'There exists a delta > epsilon, such that

|length of time all computers are fine| < delta ,

---PCR, I think you've irradiated my brain!

I'm SURE it can be proven in calculus that all computers on earth are just
fine for a period of microseconds after a fresh batch of them has collapsed
from an install of whatever.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
(e-mail address removed)
| ...a fresh batch of what ? ...please decode for moi !? :-)
|
| regards, Richard
|
| ...sometimes PCR's responses are far too cryptic for a simple mind like
mine
| :-)
|
|
| | There may be periods of time measurable in microseconds after a fresh
batch
| has collapsed that everyone else is just fine.
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
| (e-mail address removed)
| | | Yes or No !
| |
| | There are always some "out there" whose Windows platforms are hovering
on
| | the brink of major software collapse - WHATever is next installed, and
of
| | course that could, (unfortunately for Norton and any other application
| | software product) - be a Norton product.
| |
| | regards, Richard
| |
| |
|
|
 
No, no, that formula looks fine! Maybe just add an epsilon, is all!


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
(e-mail address removed)
| Let's see . . . 'There exists a delta > epsilon, such that
|
| |length of time all computers are fine| < delta ,
|
| ---PCR, I think you've irradiated my brain!
|
| | I'm SURE it can be proven in calculus that all computers on earth are just
| fine for a period of microseconds after a fresh batch of them has collapsed
| from an install of whatever.
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
| (e-mail address removed)
| | | ...a fresh batch of what ? ...please decode for moi !? :-)
| |
| | regards, Richard
| |
| | ...sometimes PCR's responses are far too cryptic for a simple mind like
| mine
| | :-)
| |
| |
| | | | There may be periods of time measurable in microseconds after a fresh
| batch
| | has collapsed that everyone else is just fine.
| |
| |
| | --
| | Thanks or Good Luck,
| | There may be humor in this post, and,
| | Naturally, you will not sue,
| | should things get worse after this,
| | PCR
| | (e-mail address removed)
| | | | | Yes or No !
| | |
| | | There are always some "out there" whose Windows platforms are hovering
| on
| | | the brink of major software collapse - WHATever is next installed, and
| of
| | | course that could, (unfortunately for Norton and any other application
| | | software product) - be a Norton product.
| | |
| | | regards, Richard
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
|
|
 
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