(OT) Filename had a Heart in it......

[casey.o]

I found a video on youtube that had a heart in the filename. I
downloaded it, and the heart symbol changed to a blank box in XP. Then
I put it on a flash drive to move it to my Win98 computer. Win98
refused to accept it, meaning I could not copy it. I had to put the
flash drive back in the XP machine and rename it.

I can use many of the upper characters in filenames on either OS, but
this is not an upper character. How do they enter those unusual
characters in filenames on youtube? This is not the first time I
encountered bizarre characters in filenames on YT. And WIn98 always
refuses them.

 

[casey.o]

I found a video on youtube that had a heart in the filename. I
downloaded it, and the heart symbol changed to a blank box in XP. Then
I put it on a flash drive to move it to my Win98 computer. Win98
refused to accept it, meaning I could not copy it. I had to put the
flash drive back in the XP machine and rename it.

I can use many of the upper characters in filenames on either OS, but
this is not an upper character. How do they enter those unusual
characters in filenames on youtube? This is not the first time I
encountered bizarre characters in filenames on YT. And WIn98 always
refuses them.

I forgot the link.
Here:

 

[Paul]

I forgot the link.
Here:

Character sets and encodings are bizarre stuff, because everything
on the computer does it slightly different (supports this, doesn't
support that, uses percent-encoding or whatever).

"Character Sets Used in File Names"
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd317748(v=vs.85).aspx

"NTFS stores file names in Unicode. In contrast, the older
FAT12, FAT16, and FAT32 file systems use the OEM character set."

The CreateFileW() routine, is a part of creating such file names...
The discussion here centers around Perl, because you can do stuff
without a compiler in that language.

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/...eate-unicode-file-names-in-windows-using-perl

But I haven't succeeded yet, in putting a heart into a file name.
The best I can do, is get a square box, which if copied and pasted
into Notepad, shows up as a heart symbol. In the same way as
being in Notepad, pressing and holding right-Alt, then pressing
"3" on the numeric keypad, makes a heart symbol in Notepad. But
once you try to paste that into a filename in File Explorer, it
gives the square box instead.

Paul

 

[casey.o]

Character sets and encodings are bizarre stuff, because everything
on the computer does it slightly different (supports this, doesn't
support that, uses percent-encoding or whatever).

"Character Sets Used in File Names"
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd317748(v=vs.85).aspx

"NTFS stores file names in Unicode. In contrast, the older
FAT12, FAT16, and FAT32 file systems use the OEM character set."

The CreateFileW() routine, is a part of creating such file names...
The discussion here centers around Perl, because you can do stuff
without a compiler in that language.

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/...eate-unicode-file-names-in-windows-using-perl

But I haven't succeeded yet, in putting a heart into a file name.
The best I can do, is get a square box, which if copied and pasted
into Notepad, shows up as a heart symbol. In the same way as
being in Notepad, pressing and holding right-Alt, then pressing
"3" on the numeric keypad, makes a heart symbol in Notepad. But
once you try to paste that into a filename in File Explorer, it
gives the square box instead.

Paul

WEIRD !!!!

So it's not really Win98 but rather the Fat32 that refused it. It's no
big deal, I just renamed it, but I wanted to understand what happened.
UI suppose if I see a file like that again, I should just rename it
before I download it. Tahnks !

 

[Paul]

WEIRD !!!!

So it's not really Win98 but rather the Fat32 that refused it. It's no
big deal, I just renamed it, but I wanted to understand what happened.
UI suppose if I see a file like that again, I should just rename it
before I download it. Tahnks !

That's what I would do.

In any case, it's going to take some method other
than File Explorer to verify what is happening to the name
and how that character is stored.

Paul

 

[casey.o]

That's what I would do.

In any case, it's going to take some method other
than File Explorer to verify what is happening to the name
and how that character is stored.

Paul

Wanna know something more weird. I had one of those files on my HDD,
and I was moving them to another partition using Win98. It would not
let me move it, copy it, rename it, or delete it. I rebooted to
Win2000, and I was able to do all of the above. Both OSs are on Fat32
partitions. So, I dont know what is going on..... But I renamed it so
the problem is gone. The file must have been copied to that computer
using Win2000, because that is waht I normally use for USB access, since
most of my bigger flash drives and none of the external HDDs have Win98
drivers. And I know this is something I downloaded at a WIFI due to
it's large size.

I dont know what would happen if I tried to download one of these files
directly to Win98. I'm assuming it would either be refused, or renamed
automatically.

XP seems to deal with these the same as Win2000 does. Of course they
are similar.