Opteron

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Tatanka Yotanka

Hi group.
Does someone of you guys know if new opteron series 1xx for socket 939
have the multiplier unlocked, i.e. could it be increased from, say 10x to
13x?
 
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Henrik Tived

I'd be damned :)

well, there you go, got any links and what would the advantage be? they
should make more 4x boards :) grin!!! or 8x
I stand corrected then, my apology
Henrik
 
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General Schvantzkoph

thanks for that info. where does the opteron in single config have an edge
over the x2 cpus?

Henrik

Has anyone found any documentation on the AMD site that shows any
differences between the 939 Opterons and the Athlon 64? All of the Opteron
specs are over a year old so they aren't going to have any about the 939
Opterons. The 940 pin Opteron's support registered DIMMs but there is no
indication that the 939 pin Opteron's do. As far as I can tell the 939 pin
Opteron is just a rebranded Athlon 64, if that's the case why did AMD
bother to release them?
 
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Tatanka Yotanka

Has anyone found any documentation on the AMD site that shows any
differences between the 939 Opterons and the Athlon 64? All of the Opteron
specs are over a year old so they aren't going to have any about the 939
Opterons. The 940 pin Opteron's support registered DIMMs but there is no
indication that the 939 pin Opteron's do. As far as I can tell the 939 pin
Opteron is just a rebranded Athlon 64, if that's the case why did AMD
bother to release them?
New 939 Opterons 1xx do not support registered memory, and have 1M cache
onboard. Seem to be essentially like the FX.

http://snipurl.com/jcdf
 
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Don Taylor

Tatanka Yotanka said:
....
New 939 Opterons 1xx do not support registered memory, and have 1M cache
onboard. Seem to be essentially like the FX.

I begin wondering whether the new Opterons are identical enough to
the old ones that they will run the free Solaris 10 OS. With less
expensive motherboards, less expensive ram, discount cpu's and a
solid os this is now getting interesting.
 
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Bill

thanks for that info. where does the opteron in single config have an edge
over the x2 cpus?

Henrik

Haven't got the foggiest, but thanks for not top posting.

Bill
 
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mikepolniak

Has anyone found any documentation on the AMD site that shows any
differences between the 939 Opterons and the Athlon 64? All of the
Opteron specs are over a year old so they aren't going to have any about
the 939 Opterons. The 940 pin Opteron's support registered DIMMs but
there is no indication that the 939 pin Opteron's do. As far as I can
tell the 939 pin Opteron is just a rebranded Athlon 64, if that's the
case why did AMD bother to release them?

This is what amd says:

Q. How will the new AMD Opteron 100 Series with ECC unbuffered memory
differ from the AMD Athlon 64 and AMD Athlon 64 FX processors?

A: Although the AMD Opteron 100 Series processors with unbuffered memory
support will share the same core technology as the AMD Athlon 64 and AMD
Athlon 64 FX processors and will be socket and thermally compatible; there
are some distinct differences:

* AMD Opteron 100 Series processors with ECC unbuffered memory all
have 1MB of L2 cache.
* AMD Opteron 100 Series processors with ECC
unbuffered memory are produced on AMD Opteron processor die material
and follow the same AMD Opteron processor manufacturing process as do
the 800 Series and 200 Series.
* AMD Opteron 100 Series processors
with ECC unbuffered memory undergo the same AMD Opteron
processor-level testing and validation as do the 800 Series and 200
Series.
 
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General Schvantzkoph

This is what amd says:

Q. How will the new AMD Opteron 100 Series with ECC unbuffered memory
differ from the AMD Athlon 64 and AMD Athlon 64 FX processors?

A: Although the AMD Opteron 100 Series processors with unbuffered memory
support will share the same core technology as the AMD Athlon 64 and AMD
Athlon 64 FX processors and will be socket and thermally compatible; there
are some distinct differences:

* AMD Opteron 100 Series processors with ECC unbuffered memory all
have 1MB of L2 cache.
* AMD Opteron 100 Series processors with ECC
unbuffered memory are produced on AMD Opteron processor die material
and follow the same AMD Opteron processor manufacturing process as do
the 800 Series and 200 Series.
* AMD Opteron 100 Series processors
with ECC unbuffered memory undergo the same AMD Opteron
processor-level testing and validation as do the 800 Series and 200
Series.

If I worked for AMD I'd be really embarrassed by this. The same die
material as the 200 or 800 series??? What are they making Athlon 64s out
of, cheddar cheese?
 
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mikepolniak

If I worked for AMD I'd be really embarrassed by this. The same die
material as the 200 or 800 series??? What are they making Athlon 64s out
of, cheddar cheese?

Yea..those "distinct differences" sound like a stretch for amd resellers
to pitch Opterons to PHB's.
 
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Henrik Tived

Haven't got the foggiest, but thanks for not top posting.

Bill

hell, i only asked the question so i wouldn't top post :)

have a great day

Henrik

PS: and I even trimmed it ;-)
 
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NoNoBadDog!

General Schvantzkoph said:
If I worked for AMD I'd be really embarrassed by this. The same die
material as the 200 or 800 series??? What are they making Athlon 64s out
of, cheddar cheese?

PLONK!

Another Intel zealot joins the killfile.

Has the General ever posted *ANYTHING* that was of use to anyone?
Of course not...he still thinks Intel is a good choice.

Bobby
 
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General Schvantzkoph

PLONK!

Another Intel zealot joins the killfile.

Has the General ever posted *ANYTHING* that was of use to anyone?
Of course not...he still thinks Intel is a good choice.

Bobby

Bobby are you retarded? Where is there a single mention of Intel in this
post? This thread is about the Opteron 1xx, AMD's low end server part, and
whether there are any differences between it and the Athlon 64. Because
you are slow witted I'll explain the obvious to you. The A64 and the 939
pin Opteron 1xx are identical. The statement about the 1xx being made out
of the same die material as the 2xx and 8xx is humorous because all AMD
processors are made on the same processes, either the old 130nm process or
the current 90nm process. It's possible that they tweak the process a
little differently for the Turions to bias it towards lower power at the
expense of performance since those are laptop parts, but historically they
haven't even done that, all they have done in the past is to mark mobile
parts with a lower speed grade then they really were which allowed the
laptop managers to run them at a lower voltage and still achieve the rated
speed. But that was a digression, we were talking about the A64 vs the 939
pin Opteron. In that case there is no difference in process, none, all of
the desktop and server parts come off of the same line. With the old 940
pin Opteron 1xx there was a different memory controller which used
registered DIMMs which allowed you to attach more memory to a single part,
8G is the current practical limit vs 4G on the Athlon 64s. However on the
939 pin Opteron 1xx that difference seems to be gone which means that the
new 1xx is nothing more than a rebranded Athlon 64.
 
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754

This is what amd says:

Q. How will the new AMD Opteron 100 Series with ECC unbuffered memory
differ from the AMD Athlon 64 and AMD Athlon 64 FX processors?

A: Although the AMD Opteron 100 Series processors with unbuffered memory
support will share the same core technology as the AMD Athlon 64 and AMD
Athlon 64 FX processors and will be socket and thermally compatible; there
are some distinct differences:

* AMD Opteron 100 Series processors with ECC unbuffered memory all
have 1MB of L2 cache.
* AMD Opteron 100 Series processors with ECC
unbuffered memory are produced on AMD Opteron processor die material
and follow the same AMD Opteron processor manufacturing process as do
the 800 Series and 200 Series.
* AMD Opteron 100 Series processors
with ECC unbuffered memory undergo the same AMD Opteron
processor-level testing and validation as do the 800 Series and 200
Series.

oh man.... what a crock of shit.

Still a happy socket 754 owner.
 
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Bill

hell, i only asked the question so i wouldn't top post :)

have a great day

Henrik

PS: and I even trimmed it ;-)

Just remember, trimming too much fat makes the meat tasteless
and tough to chew. :)

Bill
 
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Henrik Tived

Bill said:
Just remember, trimming too much fat makes the meat tasteless
and tough to chew. :)

Bill

thats why you buy meat which has fat marbled into it, so you don't a big
lump of fat hanging around it :)
no bull

Henrik
 
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Cal Vanize

Henrik said:
thats why you buy meat which has fat marbled into it, so you don't a big
lump of fat hanging around it :)
no bull

Henrik

Depends on the age of the bull. ;-)

But there's more to flavor than just how much the cut is marbled. I
haven't eater everywhere in Oz, but I wouldn't classify the beef as all
that great. IMO, its still far behind what's available locally in the
midwest U.S. or central Canada.
 

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